Governor proposes worker buyouts

Governor proposes worker buyouts

There are 54 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Jan 14, 2008, titled Governor proposes worker buyouts. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

COLUMBUS: The state of Ohio wants to downsize. Gov. Ted Strickland has asked his agencies to look into offering employees early retirement incentives to save money in light of a potential recession and ...

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OMG

Akron, OH

#42 Jan 16, 2008
Oxx wrote:
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I'm not sure if you know exactly what is going to happen, but I'll give it a go. They WILL NOT pay someone 1 or 2 years salary when the buyout comes around. The state will just buy the persons OPERS portion and HCB as well. Currently, between the employee and the state they contribute around 25% into OPERS -- so the state will pay the entire 25% for the numbers of buyout years. Ex: Worker makes $50,000 + HCB of $20K =$70,000 per year. If the state buys out that persons year... State pays 25% of $50,000 = 12,500 dollars + HCB =$32,500 or a total savings of $37,500. The employee will not be bought out and receive an check for those years salaries....they will begin to draw from OPERS.
I support my friend Governor Strickland to do the right thing and to save us taxpayers some money. Thank you for the details on how it will work.
Hagen

Kansas City, MO

#43 Jan 16, 2008
OMG wrote:
<quoted text>Forget casinos. The people of Ohio have said 3 times, soon to be a 4th, that we do not want casinos in Ohio. Forget it, it ain't going to happen. Too many of us Christians opposed to all the sins and evil casinos bring about.
As opposed to the tranquility and righteousness of what alcohol brings about? Why dont we go back to Prohibition if the eradication of sins is what you are after.
Thomas Oscrum

Las Vegas, NV

#44 Jan 16, 2008
Yea, do these workers a favor and force them out...The governor is the ultimate word and if he says go..then go....These workers just want to hang on, not work a lick while they are in the office, and just let the paychecks grow fatter by the minute. Do yourself and the state a favor and leave so other workers can have a chance. You have hung on long enough and the state needs you do do your civic duty and stay home. The state has provided for you for many years and now you need to leave....
OMG

Akron, OH

#45 Jan 16, 2008
Hagen wrote:
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As opposed to the tranquility and righteousness of what alcohol brings about? Why dont we go back to Prohibition if the eradication of sins is what you are after.
No because Donny Boy the Drunk would have no way to survive his Akron Mayorship. Prohibition would be fine with me, I don't drink anything stronger then Starbucks Coffee anyway.
San Antone Bill

San Antonio, TX

#46 Jan 16, 2008
Seems I see a familiar word again in this article and it seems to be the root cause for unemployment.---UNION. The unions have run off industry. There rediculous demands for wages and benefits prevented industry to rebuild and or retool our ageing plants. It seems the catch phrase has become out sourcing which means we can't afford you wages and benefit packages. So, so long Akron and hello Mexico with their lower cost work force.

I suppose it happen to the state employees as well. Sound like the Govenor has the answer at his beckoning. Create a right to work law. Which means you aren't forced to join the union when you get hired. Extreme wages and pay everything benefits sound good but the cost to maintain that just got hard to carry. When you aren't collecting taxes from laid off factory workers the state can't offer the same services at the same price. It appears the do more with less is about to strike again. So there is a trickle down from the lost income from factory workers and again unions appear to be the root cause.
San Antone Bill

San Antonio, TX

#47 Jan 17, 2008
OMG wrote:
<quoted text>No way should we pay someone 1 or 2 years salary with HCB to retire early which is what I suspect he's thinking of doing. It cost less to layoff the lower seniority permanently, pay their 6 months of UEC and move on. Then when the senior retire normally, they get replaced on an as needed basis.
Glad you are thinking these days Grump. However,I believe you did not do any reseach on your thinking. If the funds are not permitting the Govenor to carry the paper on all employees then of course lay offs are inevitable unforortunate but a reality. So you want you to lay off less senior employees and keep folks who will retire within 2 years. How exactly does that help? You would lay off people with a lower salary and more years available before they retire. This will end the work force of reliable and expiernced employees.

Research shows that promoting retirement and early retirement is a solid method of reducing payrole expenditures and benefit packages. What ever the perspective retiree has in their retirement package has already been paid. What employers gain are lower wage groups and the consideration of changing the retirement package. What they gain is an unenterupted work force that has experience.

What does the general public get well that is yet to be seen. Probably a reduction in service, longer waiting periods,etc... The management gets to begin using that long awaited quality team performance management techniques that will improve processes. It eventually will get services even better than the early retirement package. Infact it probably took the early retirement program to get a change management activity going.

“I'm as Mad as Hell...”

Since: Mar 07

Your Neighbor & Friend

#48 Jan 17, 2008
Thanks for the info, Oxx and others. With 9 years of service time aching for buy-out on my docket, wonder if Guvner Ted will deliver my papers pell mell & post haste? The moment an offer hits my desk, I will sign off, thank all you fellow taxpayers (hee hee), and join Grump and Nurse Goodbody down at Starbucks. Hope she's got a sister.
bernie kay saling

Edison, NJ

#49 Jan 18, 2008
ihope this plan does not only include the union employees. i am an employee of a small county cdjfs and am not in the union. i feel all employees statewide should be afforded this opportunity.
lol

Cincinnati, OH

#50 Jan 20, 2008
I got a 2yr buyout from ohio state parks in 06.I am making 100 dollars less a month than when i was working there.I spent around that much on gas and food for lunch every month going to work.therefore i am making the same amount now as when i was working.I deserve it after listening to the public whine and cry every time somethings weren't perfect in the park.they didn't care our staff was cut by 75% by gov bob turd.I got mine, nobody likes it to bad. Soon it will be fishing time.
browns fan

Cedar Park, TX

#51 Jan 20, 2008
Voice of Reality wrote:
"The only place this money "trickled down" to was into your family and friends personal bank accounts."
Uh, that's how the theory was supposed to work in actual practice.
As for tax cuts for the rich, well, last I checked, the rich pay overwhelmingly most of the income taxes in this country. The bottom 50% of wage earners pay a surprisingly small percentage of the total. What do you propose we do? Tax the rich at 100% of income? A lot of you folks really could use a primer on how things work in this country as well as how things actually are, course, a little research might help in that regard.
Exactly; as Abraham Lincoln once said, "last I looked, the poor aren't hiring."
browns fan

Cedar Park, TX

#52 Jan 20, 2008
OMG wrote:
<quoted text>No because Donny Boy the Drunk would have no way to survive his Akron Mayorship. Prohibition would be fine with me, I don't drink anything stronger then Starbucks Coffee anyway.
Keep voting against the casinos; they won't solve anything. Look at Detroit...go a mile outside Greektown and it's casino, and the MGM Grand, and it is burned out crack houses all the way to Dearborn.
You don't want the Mafia taking Akron back over again....of course, they could meet at the Tangier now that it is reopening.....
Ready to go

Zanesville, OH

#53 Jan 28, 2008
For all those who think that "all" state workers are a lazy bunch, I invite you to spend a week in their place. Granted the jobs seems easy and there are people just standing around but hey, there isn't a person out there who wouldn't take that position. This one is just waiting on the paper work to filter through the system. After 31 years of putting up with all the whining from the nay sayers on government employees, I deserve all that is offered. Thank you for the additional time Mr. Strickland. I will put it to good use on the golf course.
29 years I need 30

Rocky River, OH

#54 Feb 13, 2008
please lord...let the buyout be offered to county employees...
Linda

Dayton, OH

#55 Mar 1, 2008
The RWJF/ Johnson & Johnson funds the smoking bans for smoking cessation profits

Congressional staff members, were on the RWJ payroll.
http://www.aapsonline.org/judicial/anac.htm
the entire paragraph:
The grants have strings attached. An RWJ grant to the state of Minnesota was contingent upon passage of a Clinton-like Plan (and was cancelled when the governor vetoed the legislation). But the influence of the tax-exempt foundations extends still further. A number of Task Force members, including Congressional staff members, were on the RWJ payroll. If Clinton-style reform passes, RWJ personnel will be positioned to control billions of dollars and the very lives of American citizens. Could foundations be creating a shadow government, immune from public accountability?
AAPS lawyers believe that they have found the answers to many of these questions. They will move in court by the end of March.

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