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#141 Dec 28, 2012
Kosmik wrote:
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Damn you're slow today. Started the New Years blast a little early? Still drowning in the Christmas cheer?
Posts 131 and 132 stand on their own. An example, I used the phrase 'my brand of conservatism'(indicating my personal belief of it including my voting record) and you stretched it to claim I was trying to be the standard bearer.
No, you haven't changed my posts but your replies are to issues I never raised or claimed. Simply because I don't think the Republicans are on the correct side of virtually any issue right now doesn't equate to me being an Obama worshipper.
It's not me who's changed as of late. Since your boy Mitt lost all of you wingnuts have been unhinged and it's a riot watching the meltdown occur.
My vote was for anyone but/most likely to defeat obama K.....
Apparently you have no memory of my posts during the election season.

As for unhinged.....LMAO...you are are becoming increasingly incoherent and adversarial... Give it a while, you will be on here raising heck about obama....

For someone who claims to be a lifelong business man you seem to have a very tenuous grasp of how the economic engine works....

You will get the increased "revenue" you desire without the spending cuts.
The revenue will however, be coming out of the pockets of the poor and the middle class for the most part, unfortunately.....
Taxing the so called rich, while satisfying to the class warfare folks will not make a dent in the deficit.

Meanwhile over the next 2 or 3 years, enjoy your utility bills as they "necessarily sky rocket"......
Chuck Waggon

Irving, TX

#142 Dec 28, 2012
Obamacare wrote:
Isn't Obama responsible for the highest tax increase in history on middle and lower class Americans by instituting Obamacare?.
No Obamacare helps Americans. Especially the elderly won't have the donut hole in Medicare.

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#143 Dec 28, 2012
Chuck Waggon wrote:
<quoted text>No Obamacare helps Americans. Especially the elderly won't have the donut hole in Medicare.
BS Obamacare is going to bankrupt the country and the individual and drive doctors out of practice and meter out health care to those who don't need it.

It contains something like 23 new taxes and cuts doctor's medicare reimbursement by 30%. Most doctor's I know are going to refuse to accept it. And they are SLOW pay. No worse debtor than the federal government.

Since: Oct 10

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#144 Dec 28, 2012
Oh yeah, forgot to mention it is going to cause layoffs, cut hours and small businesses to close.

Since: Sep 10

Cleveland, OH

#145 Dec 28, 2012
6was9 wrote:
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For someone who claims to be a lifelong business man you seem to have a very tenuous grasp of how the economic engine works....
Once again you attribute wording to me that I've never written. I did own and run my own business for over 20 years though and I basically retired at 50. I don't think that indicates a tenuous grasp of economics.

Listening to Glenn Beck massacre economic theory doesn't count as an economics course as you and George seem to believe. If you had ever even taken 1 economics class you would know that there are many theories and all are addressed. The fact that you are claiming there is only one solution, which by the way has never been attempted in full, to cure all indicates how little you know about it. You prefer to work with fantasy, I'll stick with fact.

Chuck Waggon

Dallas, TX

#146 Dec 28, 2012
Seriouslady wrote:
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BS Obamacare is going to bankrupt the country and the individual and drive doctors out of practice and meter out health care to those who don't need it.
All false scare tactics. No basis of fact.
Chuck Waggon

Dallas, TX

#147 Dec 28, 2012
Seriouslady wrote:
Oh yeah, forgot to mention it is going to cause layoffs, cut hours and small businesses to close.
More false assumptions.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#148 Dec 28, 2012
Kosmik wrote:
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Yep.
Same as the ones that allow GE, Exxon-Mobil and several other giants to pay no tax.
Personally, I'd like to see ALL corporations pay no tax. It would let them cut the price of their products to be more competitive with other countries' products. The increased sales of those products would spur expansion and employment, enlarging the tax base.

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#149 Dec 28, 2012
Kosmik wrote:
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You prefer to work with fantasy, I'll stick with fact.
LOL Alright K educate me...what are these facts?

Since: Oct 10

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#150 Dec 28, 2012
Chuck Waggon wrote:
<quoted text>More false assumptions.
O.K., Chuckie....stay in denial.
Chuck Waggon

Dallas, TX

#151 Dec 28, 2012
Seriouslady wrote:
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O.K., Chuckie....stay in denial.
I guess the best way to know for sure is to see what happens in the coming years. I have a feeling most people will embrace the benefits of Obamacare once they understand it. I remember when some die hard Conservatives were saying Democrats were "in denial" when they were convinced that Obama wouldn't win a second term. You are out of touch with the average American.

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#152 Dec 28, 2012
Kosmik wrote:
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You prefer to work with fantasy, I'll stick with fact.
WiseAmerican

Columbus, OH

#154 Dec 29, 2012
TonyD2 wrote:
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Personally, I'd like to see ALL corporations pay no tax. It would let them cut the price of their products to be more competitive with other countries' products. The increased sales of those products would spur expansion and employment, enlarging the tax base.
How about no one's income that's under 40k pay no tax. They could buy more stuff spurring economic growth.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#156 Dec 29, 2012
WiseAmerican wrote:
<quoted text> How about no one's income that's under 40k pay no tax. They could buy more stuff spurring economic growth.
So, you'd have 45% of workers, paying income taxes. Suuuuure...
You think there's anger and division today? You'd have people making $50k taking home less than those making $39,999. Try your idea and watch society come apart for good.
just sayin

Dublin, OH

#157 Dec 29, 2012
Kosmik wrote:
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Oh, clever one, you left out the statement that I endorsed explaining my stance on it. "As long as the cuts are substantial and the tax loopholes are closed. We need to work together for the betterment of this nation. Its time to stop all the bullshit and start making some real changes!"
Hardly a call for raising taxes.
that person put the link up so nothing was left out
VADoc

United States

#158 Dec 29, 2012
WiseAmerican wrote:
<quoted text> How about no one's income that's under 40k pay no tax. They could buy more stuff spurring economic growth.
I'd be fine with this as long as they don't get any tax refunds at the end of the year. Someone paying little to nothing into the till every year and then getting thousands back in a tax refund each is ridiculous!

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#159 Dec 29, 2012
WiseAmerican wrote:
<quoted text> How about no one's income that's under 40k pay no tax. They could buy more stuff spurring economic growth.
It's everyone's government, everyone should pay for it.

Since: Sep 10

Cleveland, OH

#160 Dec 29, 2012
Seriouslady wrote:
Oh yeah, forgot to mention it is going to cause layoffs, cut hours and small businesses to close.
If all those job loses and hours cut and damage to small business, you may want to reconsider your position on raising the debt ceiling or the drastic cuts it will force if the automatic spending cuts are enacted.

You can only be on one side of the jobs issue. You are both with and against Obama on this issue depending on, well, I don't know.

That's the problem with day to day talking points, there are always bound to be contradictions and only proves the spouters of such have no convictions.

Since: Sep 10

Cleveland, OH

#161 Dec 29, 2012
TonyD2 wrote:
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Personally, I'd like to see ALL corporations pay no tax. It would let them cut the price of their products to be more competitive with other countries' products. The increased sales of those products would spur expansion and employment, enlarging the tax base.
That sounds all well and good, except one of two things or a combination of both with need to happen. Either the revenue would need re-sourced, matching cuts in spending would need implemented or a mixture of both.

Due to unfunded mandates, the deficits and the debt, revenue needs raised. There's no getting around it. I personally like the notion that we have a kickass military and it needs funded. We can argue all day about what needs cut but it's all small potatoes compared to the true debt of the nation. We can't cut our way out of it.

Since: Sep 10

Cleveland, OH

#162 Dec 29, 2012
6was9 wrote:
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LOL Alright K educate me...what are these facts?
Well, you haven't demonstrated a proficiency in math, you believe less revenue will fix the problem of massive debt and deficit, it would be a waste of my time. I'm pretty generous but for me to take you seriously on this, I'd have to charge you and my rates are pretty steep.

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