Obama dares Ohio State graduates 'to be better'

May 5, 2013 Full story: ClickOnDetroit 710

President Obama told graduates Sunday that "the institutions that give structure to our society have at times betrayed your trust" but called on young people to take a more active role in the political process as part of the solution.

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#700 May 8, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
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you require triple the dose at minimum.
try an entire bottle
Thud.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#701 May 8, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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This person is borderline stalking me on here. It's rather creepy.
Not this @(!)* again!

“a man chooses, a slave obeys.”

Since: May 13

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#702 May 9, 2013
Honk honk
hilarious

Carmel, IN

#703 May 9, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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I'm going to go ahead and admit I stopped reading after the first paragraph and just laughed. For someone who isn't obsessed with me, you sure seem to have spent a lot of time studying my picture. Do you know how many pictures of other posters I've paid attention to? None. You know why? Cause I don't care. You obviously do. It's quite scary. And then apparently you've written me a novel. About what, I don't know, but man you're devoting a lot of time to me! Somebody's a little cray-cray.
Hmmm, you laughed because you were asked to support your claims that I was a liar......AND....your reading tutor left for the day.
I can assure you that no one would want to study your picture for fear they would turn to stone.
Once again, please quit projecting your pathologies in this forum. This is a public venue where people respond to comments and nothing more.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#704 May 9, 2013
VADoc wrote:
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Now you said you knew no dems that complained of paying taxes. I said that is not the case for me.
Now you are saying it's just redeeming money paid into the system? Ummm if you get back much more than you paid in then you didn't earn it. What about those on food stamps, Medicaid, welfare, etc. who get a nice fat refund check each year? You don't call that a handout? They didn't pay in nearly what they got back.
Government is like chlorine. A little does the trick and too much is toxic.
That's fine if you know democrats who gripe about taxes. I do not. Not sure how that's a point to argue.

I think there are probably less people than you think milking the system and more people than I think...I'm sure it's a very middle ground on our difference of opinions. But people who have paid into the system should not be looked down upon for looking to that system to help them. You'll get no argument from me that for most people, help should be temporary. I don't think there are a whole lot of people who don't believe the system needs to be fixed, but not eradicated completely. I worked in a grocery store while in high school - I know full well what some people spend their food stamps on. I recently mentioned legislation in one state that would restrict what could be bought with FS. I fully support that.

As for the refund - that's tricky. My dad holds the same position as you and I posed this to him - what if that refund is just the amount they need to take them to the next level and get them off of welfare? It's a possibility. No one denies people work the system. But do we eliminate it completely and punish the people who legitimately need help?
hilarious

Carmel, IN

#705 May 9, 2013
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>It's truly "hilarious". Life's too short. I recommend you ignore this dimwit. That may cause him to froth at the mouth, but that's show biz.
My dear spittlebreath, why don't you stay on topic and we won't have to keep cleaning up your messes?

Does anyone know how much money the cretin in office has spent on vacations not only for himself but for his entire pod? The fact he has to haul them around in a big jumbo jet suggests Moochelle needs to make better food choices.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#706 May 9, 2013
Why not get real wrote:
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I understand what you are saying, but think about it this way.
I own a small business. I have a very small profit margin. For any of this "tax relief" to help me I must increase my expenditures and drop my profit margin into the negative. These measures don't help businesses become more healthy, they make them spend more money.
The reason the liberals wanted these measures to pass is so that the small businesses would spend more money, and therefore increase the velocity of the money in our system.
In reality, none of these measures actually help the struggling business owner. They are a financial trick. It is similar to using coupons at a store. Sure you save some money, but you end up in a worse financial situation than before.
Actual help was rejected by the liberals because it would of benefited both those doing well and those struggling.
These tricks give the administration a way to pretend they are cutting taxes while increasing tax revenue through proposed strengthening of the economy do to an increased velocity of the monies in the financial system.
They run calculations on how many business will take advantage of these coupons, they can calculate how much money will flow into the economy and "predict" the increase of the velocity of the system. From that calculation they can then calculate the increased tax revenue and can say they saved small businesses some amount of money, all the while they helped the financial system at the expense of the small business.
It is a cruel trick. These policies aren't for the sake of making businesses more healthy. They trick the biggest spenders in our economy (small business) into spending more money under the guise of saving money (same concept as coupons) and in doing so hopefully increases the velocity of money, hopefully jump starting the economy.
It is in that hope of jump starting the economy they predict the small businesses will benefit. Not directly through the tax policy they pass, but through a hope that the tax policy will jump start the economy.
Actual help to small businesses i.e. permanent cuts to capitol gains, long lasting tax policy, reduced or simplified regulatory paperwork, simplified licences are examples of a policy that would help a struggling business.
I understand your point of view, but I guess my question to you would be this - if you didn't find the tax incentives to be beneficial to your particular business, then you wouldn't take advantage of them, correct? Unless I'm misunderstood, you're not required to take advantage of these tax credits. That is not to say that there aren't businesses out there that would very much benefit from these types of incentives.

I also have to disagree with you about coupons. Again - it's one of those things that you're not forced to take advantage of, but if it's beneficial to you, they can be very helpful. Apparently there's an entire TV show devoted to the process (never watched it). If you're going out and spending what little money you have on a product you don't really need just to take advantage of the coupon, that's kind of silly, don't you think? But if you're going to be buying the product anyway, and a coupon is available, ultimately you're saving money. Seems like an applicable analogy to the tax credits.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#707 May 9, 2013
hilarious wrote:
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Hmmm, you laughed because you were asked to support your claims that I was a liar......AND....your reading tutor left for the day.
I can assure you that no one would want to study your picture for fear they would turn to stone.
Once again, please quit projecting your pathologies in this forum. This is a public venue where people respond to comments and nothing more.
I think you need to look up the word pathology.

You lack any ability to formulate complete thoughts. And again, you seem obsessed with my picture. Just can't stop talking about it, can you?
hilarious

Carmel, IN

#708 May 9, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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I understand your point of view, but I guess my question to you would be this - if you didn't find the tax incentives to be beneficial to your particular business, then you wouldn't take advantage of them, correct? Unless I'm misunderstood, you're not required to take advantage of these tax credits. That is not to say that there aren't businesses out there that would very much benefit from these types of incentives.
I also have to disagree with you about coupons. Again - it's one of those things that you're not forced to take advantage of, but if it's beneficial to you, they can be very helpful. Apparently there's an entire TV show devoted to the process (never watched it). If you're going out and spending what little money you have on a product you don't really need just to take advantage of the coupon, that's kind of silly, don't you think? But if you're going to be buying the product anyway, and a coupon is available, ultimately you're saving money. Seems like an applicable analogy to the tax credits.
The guy tried to dumb it down as much as he could and you still are clueless. Say your business was a broom factory and the government was offering 'coupons' for manufacturing vibrators.
hilarious

Carmel, IN

#709 May 9, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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I think you need to look up the word pathology.
You lack any ability to formulate complete thoughts. And again, you seem obsessed with my picture. Just can't stop talking about it, can you?
I think you need to find your reading tutor.

Your needle seems to be stuck on obsession......maybe you should consult with your sock puppets.

Maybe you should open up a Kool-Aide stand on a tundra and learn the basics of owning and operating a business. Afterwards, you can conjure up Jimmy Jones for assistance.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#711 May 9, 2013
hilarious wrote:
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I think you need to find your reading tutor.
Your needle seems to be stuck on obsession......maybe you should consult with your sock puppets.
Maybe you should open up a Kool-Aide stand on a tundra and learn the basics of owning and operating a business. Afterwards, you can conjure up Jimmy Jones for assistance.
Still need my attention, huh? Wow...I think you need to find a hobby that doesn't including holding your breath for my every post.

“Alius bardus latin laudo”

Since: Nov 08

Eden Prairie, MN

#712 May 9, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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I understand your point of view, but I guess my question to you would be this - if you didn't find the tax incentives to be beneficial to your particular business, then you wouldn't take advantage of them, correct? Unless I'm misunderstood, you're not required to take advantage of these tax credits. That is not to say that there aren't businesses out there that would very much benefit from these types of incentives.
I also have to disagree with you about coupons. Again - it's one of those things that you're not forced to take advantage of, but if it's beneficial to you, they can be very helpful. Apparently there's an entire TV show devoted to the process (never watched it). If you're going out and spending what little money you have on a product you don't really need just to take advantage of the coupon, that's kind of silly, don't you think? But if you're going to be buying the product anyway, and a coupon is available, ultimately you're saving money. Seems like an applicable analogy to the tax credits.
You are correct. These tax policies don't help the struggling business. If they are planning on expanding the plan was made previous to the tax policies and don't do anything to assist a business already planning on expanding or making a purchase.

Some businesses may be able to take advantage of this, but those were businesses that have already planned to take on the extra expense.

To help strengthen the market we need a policy that will help weak businesses by allowing them to use their earned capitol.

“a man chooses, a slave obeys.”

Since: May 13

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#713 May 9, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
<quoted text>Still need my attention, huh? Wow...I think you need to find a hobby that doesn't including holding your breath for my every post.
That is a burn, I shall bump fist you through the power of the interwebs *fistbump*

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#720 May 9, 2013
Why not get real wrote:
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You are correct. These tax policies don't help the struggling business. If they are planning on expanding the plan was made previous to the tax policies and don't do anything to assist a business already planning on expanding or making a purchase.
Some businesses may be able to take advantage of this, but those were businesses that have already planned to take on the extra expense.
To help strengthen the market we need a policy that will help weak businesses by allowing them to use their earned capitol.
There are some incentives to small business owners that have been permanent or extended. For example, the SBA allows $10k to be deducted for start-up costs, whereas it used to only be $5k. I would say this is a great benefit, yes? Especially seeing as starting a business is usually financially rough. There were also provisions for tax errors which could be financially devastating to a small business. Then there were the carryback incentives, which given have now been reduced, but I would see this as a benefit to the government seeing as it would be a financial burden to keep offering this benefit.

I don't think it's a liberal or conservative issue to offer tax incentives that are temporary. After all, the Bush tax cuts had an expiration date as well.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#721 May 9, 2013
Dante infernox wrote:
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That is a burn, I shall bump fist you through the power of the interwebs *fistbump*
Fistbump back. Sometimes it's too easy to take them down.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#725 May 10, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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I think you need to look up the word pathology.
You lack any ability to formulate complete thoughts. And again, you seem obsessed with my picture. Just can't stop talking about it, can you?
I can't look at your picture without getting sick.

obsessed?......another of your fantasies?

I would call it running from ugly, not obsession.
hyasew

Pittsburgh, PA

#726 May 10, 2013
youtube.com/watch...
Obama needs to practice what he say's himself

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#727 May 10, 2013
Obama should dare the welfare class (his biggest supporters) to get off their dead butt and make something useful out of themselves.

“Alius bardus latin laudo”

Since: Nov 08

Williston, ND

#728 May 10, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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There are some incentives to small business owners that have been permanent or extended. For example, the SBA allows $10k to be deducted for start-up costs, whereas it used to only be $5k. I would say this is a great benefit, yes? Especially seeing as starting a business is usually financially rough. There were also provisions for tax errors which could be financially devastating to a small business. Then there were the carryback incentives, which given have now been reduced, but I would see this as a benefit to the government seeing as it would be a financial burden to keep offering this benefit.
I don't think it's a liberal or conservative issue to offer tax incentives that are temporary. After all, the Bush tax cuts had an expiration date as well.
Temporary tax tricks are not just on the left, but I also don't believe Bush was a true small government conservative.

But I think you can see what I mean.

You ever think about coming over to the "Dark Side"? Conservatism isn't really all that bad.

What hold ups do you have about conservatism? I know this is off topic but you seem like you are intelligent, why liberalism?
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#729 May 10, 2013
Why not get real wrote:
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Temporary tax tricks are not just on the left, but I also don't believe Bush was a true small government conservative.
But I think you can see what I mean.
You ever think about coming over to the "Dark Side"? Conservatism isn't really all that bad.
What hold ups do you have about conservatism? I know this is off topic but you seem like you are intelligent, why liberalism?
she enjoys murdering babies at will, and then blame it on a Republican.

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