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#358 Dec 6, 2012
-tip- wrote:
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Re-read for clarity.
While he was receiving SSI, he was hired as a SSI claims adjudicator.
Simply amazing.
And re-read post #324.
BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars across government agencies are lost to such fraud annually.
But...you knew that.
Not so simple, tip.

When it comes to billions in fraud, the likelihood is that it isn't coming PRIMARILY from this kind of rip-off. There are other, more efficient means of stealing from the government--generally using recipients in some wholesale kinda way. Things like fraudulent charges for medical equipment (that the eligible recipients don't ask for and most likely don't know about, and certainly don't receive).

Working a legit (as in under a legit SS#, being paid over the table, withholdings and all that sort of thing) job while collecting is one of the easier scams to catch--since both require a SS#. And it is likely to show up at the caseworker level--which is why I asked what I did--sounds like an inside job. It happens, but probably not on a grand scale.

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#359 Dec 6, 2012
6was9 wrote:
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Latoya,
That is not a misquote if you click on the link below it will take you to the actual post which I quoted word for word without changing a thing.....
Here is the link again......
http://www.topix.com/forum/columbus/TEE1CVM7G...
I don't change peoples words or use partial posts to present comments in an unfair light......please click on the link....
see post 26.....
You do understand the difference between "I don't know" and "yes," don't you?

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#360 Dec 6, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Liar. She said exactly what she said. She tried to weasel out of it with, "I don't know."
You're already on the fast track to near universal derision here. Lining up with Reader will consign you to perpetual loser status.
Enjoy.
End of the day, I have never said that the US deserved 9/11.

And try as you might, you still cannot show that I did.

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#361 Dec 6, 2012
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It isn't just government's overspending that has bankrupted our nation.
The incompetence, waste and fraud that permeate government agencies are also responsible.
The Oregonian, 2008:
The Social Security Administration has fallen behind in reviewing the medical conditions of 1.7 million Americans on its disability rolls, potentially paying up to $11 BILLION in benefits to people who are no longer disabled.
From WSJ, 2011:
The Inspector General recently estimated that the SSA has made $40.3 MILLION in erroneous payments to more than 1,700 deceased beneficiaries while in June the AP reported that the Administration made $6.5 BILLION in overpayments to people not entitled to receive them in 2009, including $4 BILLION under a supplemental income program for the very poor.
How many die while waiting for a declaration of disability?

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#362 Dec 6, 2012
-tip- wrote:
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Like your idol, Obama...when convenient, you deem some moral issues to be "above your pay grade."
And the converse is ...?

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#363 Dec 6, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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End of the day, I have never said that the US deserved 9/11.
And try as you might, you still cannot show that I did.
Given your politics and worldview, the fact that you never said, "No" says it all.

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#365 Dec 6, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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You do understand the difference between "I don't know" and "yes," don't you?
Yep, I sure do Ms. word spinner.........do you?

Yes of course is an easy one..........

"I don't know" has the same meaning as "America may or may not have deserved the 911 terrorist attack".......

The third alternative answer not included in any of your posts would have been NO, which LaToya found fairly easy to use as an answer.
No of course would mean NO I don't think America deserved the 911 attacks. That answer of course in one that you are obviously unwilling to use.

How is that?

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#366 Dec 6, 2012
6was9 wrote:
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Funny, it would seem you are ready to assume the role of God
on a fairly regular basis.....
What is your need to beat me into submission on this particular issue?

As I have said frequently, there are some pretty deep theological considerations that go into that question of "deservingness." And while I might find a discussion of those considerations very interesting, given a group that was truly interested in the theology of the question, I don't feel a need to either make or accept some absolute declaration.

Of what utility is such a certainty? Will it bring back any who died? Will it guide our future actions in any positive way? Will it help us to be wiser, more moral or better people?

I don't think so.

Further, can you state with similar certainty that our country has never committed any wrong that might contribute to our joining with all the rest of the poor buggers who approach God on a daily basis offering penance and asking forgiveness for being less than perfect? I don't think so--and that is something I will say with certainty. Because I accept that God did not create us as perfect creatures, but as loved and forgiven creatures.

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#367 Dec 6, 2012
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Thanks for the concise honest reply .....I feel the exact same way.
I do have to wonder however why the answer "I don't know" to the exact same question, or the statement America may or may not have deserved the 911 attacks was OK with you......
Frankly, I believe both the answer and the statement to be indicative of a belief that apparently You and I together do not share.
I would suspect that like you most Americans would not hesitate and have an immediate and easy answer to condemn the terrorists attacks that killed so many innocent folks........
Ah, but condemning those who attacked is a very different question.

I have no problem condemning the attacks, or those who committed them.

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#370 Dec 6, 2012
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Even arguing that 9/11 was the consequences of US foreign policy, is still claiming that it was deserved.
In fact, that was also not my argument, but rather that political interactions are complex.

Declaring one side to be blessed by God and the other to be evil stands at the root of a good many deadly conflicts across history.

Not only is that wasteful of human life, it conflicts with my personal theological underderstanding.

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#371 Dec 6, 2012
Karl Monday wrote:
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Reader can't fully say it, because she would face termination, but the leftist worldview is that the US is an imperialistic nation and that any action that is "Anti-Imperialist" is considered good, this is how until recently UK Guardian comment boards were defending Bashar Assad as "Anti-Imperialist" and the Islamist rebels as "Zionist stooges" and "US trained".
In Marxism "Imperialism is the highest stage of Capitalism". AFAIK Reader is a Marxist.
The fact is that Jeremiah Wright did say that the attacks were the consequences of a foreign policy that tries its best to promote human rights in a hostile world. Reader doubled down on that by saying that we "may or may not have deserved the attacks".
Did we "deserve Pearl Harbor" because we were trying to stop Japanese seizure of China, where women were raped in the streets by the invading army, by using the embargo?
Of course the leftist then says, repeating WWII Japanese propaganda, that the white man was engaging in imperialism in Southeast Asia (note that governance was more professional under the colonials, Singapore excepted), failing to then say that Japan was imperialistic, because "only whites can be racist" also applies to imperialism.
Same thing as to whenever war with Iran is brought up, the leftists will then say that the "Zionist-Crusaders" are engaing in imperialism against Iran for having its "nuclear rights", and that Iran "never started a war of conquest in 1000 years" (On to Karbala in the 80s is left out). And they rip Israel for not being in the NPT and having nukes (note that India and Pakistan did the same) and even though Israel has never threatened to wipe its neighbors of the map.
(The above is not all targeted at Reader, it's targeted at the institutional and international left, but the ideas behind it are the same and follow the same path)
Enjoy conversing with yourself, Karl.

Personally, I would appreciate it if you would not use my name with your little straw man arguments. First, I am perfectly capable fo speaking for myself, and second, you have a profound tendancy to get my thinking all wrong.

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#372 Dec 6, 2012
6was9 wrote:
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"I don't know" has the same meaning as "America may or may not have deserved the 911 terrorist attack".......
Now you are catching on.

And both have a completely different meaning from "the US deserved 9/11."

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#373 Dec 6, 2012
Karl Monday wrote:
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What part of "The Islamists hate our guts because we think the Jews deserve a country and not dhimmitude" don't you get?
The Jews "deserve" Israel, the Islamists hate that more than anything else, that's why they attack us.
Now we are getting into Enzyte Bob territory. He can tear you apart on the subject of The Jews deserving Israel.

Again--I don't find deservingness to be a very productive concept here.

I come closer to the statement from the UN Declaration of Human Rights that every person on earth is entitled to a name and a country. That would include all citizens of Israel, but it also includes all Palestinians. I don't have any solutions for the Middle East, except to know that dismissive hatred in any context has never accomplished much.

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#374 Dec 6, 2012
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Ah, but condemning those who attacked is a very different question.
I have no problem condemning the attacks, or those who committed them.
Playing with words again skimmer? LMAO

Yes you will condemn the attacks, but repeatedly have refused to say....."NO America did not deserve the attacks".

You could have ended the discussion a long time ago by saying just that.....but you refuse to.....

The inevitable conclusion to be drawn leads me and many others to your true opinion and it is highly objectionable.

You ask "What is my need to beat you into submission on this particular issue?"

Pretty much it is because your spinning and ongoing obfuscation annoys me and your blame America first attitude wizzes me off.

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#375 Dec 6, 2012
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I am all for shooting these two before the screw and make more animals to feed.
The problem I have is the police higher ups don't know for sure if 12 or 13 officers opened fire. They claim it was 137 rounds discharged but yet less than 50 went into the carcasses of the non union thugs. This is a waste of tax payers dollars. Way too many rounds expended that were off target and the boss hogs are not sure how many piglets opened fire.
I suggest mandatory ammo counts at the end of each shift to be overseen by a tax payer not another union thuglet with their snout in the wallets of tax payers.
Also GPS tracking on a nose ring for these pigs so they can be accounted for.
Instead of posting your bullsh!t on here like you're some kind of Billy Badass, walk up to a police officer face to face and call him/her a hog, pig or piglet. You won't because you don't have the testicles, pee wee.

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#376 Dec 6, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Now you are catching on.
And both have a completely different meaning from "the US deserved 9/11."
Truncating my posts eh? LOL Well, I should have known you could not respond to the entire post.

There is still that pesky third option that you needed to delete from my original post..That no answer......Hurts you just to skim it eh?

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#377 Dec 6, 2012
6was9 wrote:
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Truncating my posts eh? LOL Well, I should have known you could not respond to the entire post.
There is still that pesky third option that you needed to delete from my original post..That no answer......Hurts you just to skim it eh?
You know what--bb, I am never the one who brings this whole topic up again.

It is always someone like George or tip (can't say for sure if you have so I won't make that accusation) throwing out the misinformation that I have REPEATEDLY stated that the US deserved 9/11.

I have explained many times why I did not say that, why I will not say that (nor the reverse). It would seem from your own particularly willingness to re-engage the topic that you have some profound need to put me into some box that you find comfortable.

I am not the one who needs to have a yes/no answer to your question. Apparently you do. So be it. But you don't need me to affirm (or deny) your answer for you.

Go away and be happy that you have solved the world's problems to your personal satisfaction. Just don't require that the whole world is going to stand up and salute you, or that you will find the world a different place because of it when you wake up in the morning.

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#378 Dec 6, 2012
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You know what--bb, I am never the one who brings this whole topic up again.
It is always someone like George or tip (can't say for sure if you have so I won't make that accusation) throwing out the misinformation that I have REPEATEDLY stated that the US deserved 9/11.
I have explained many times why I did not say that, why I will not say that (nor the reverse). It would seem from your own particularly willingness to re-engage the topic that you have some profound need to put me into some box that you find comfortable.
I am not the one who needs to have a yes/no answer to your question. Apparently you do. So be it. But you don't need me to affirm (or deny) your answer for you.
Go away and be happy that you have solved the world's problems to your personal satisfaction. Just don't require that the whole world is going to stand up and salute you, or that you will find the world a different place because of it when you wake up in the morning.
I have always quoted your statements accurately.
I did not bring up the subject.

I don't need you to affirm or deny anything, your opinion is readily apparent. You have a right to it.

When you deny your statement on a new post by spinning, and deny what you actually said in its entirety because someone missed "may or may not" from your original statement, I will continue to point it out.

I jumped in when you started referring to other posters as liars....

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#379 Dec 6, 2012
6was9 wrote:
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I have always quoted your statements accurately.
I did not bring up the subject.
I don't need you to affirm or deny anything, your opinion is readily apparent. You have a right to it.
When you deny your statement on a new post by spinning, and deny what you actually said in its entirety because someone missed "may or may not" from your original statement, I will continue to point it out.
I jumped in when you started referring to other posters as liars....
Yes, I referred to George as a liar, when he made the statement that I had repeated said that the the US deserved 9/11.

He knows full well that is not the truth.

As do you.

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#380 Dec 6, 2012
6was9 wrote:
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I have always quoted your statements accurately.
I did not bring up the subject.
I don't need you to affirm or deny anything, your opinion is readily apparent. You have a right to it.
When you deny your statement on a new post by spinning, and deny what you actually said in its entirety because someone missed "may or may not" from your original statement, I will continue to point it out.
I jumped in when you started referring to other posters as liars....
And, by the way--I fished the entire original post out yesterday and reposted it. That is is hardly spinning.

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