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There are 34 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Mar 2, 2010, titled Upper Arlington aims to block new church school | The Columbus .... In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Upper Arlington schools could lose more than $400,000 a year if Tree of Life Christian School moves into the former home of Upper Arlington's one-time largest employer.

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JMH

Columbus, OH

#21 Nov 30, 2010
I'm curious about Duderino's comment. First and foremost, Tree of Life does not have a school in Toledo so I'm wondering if perhaps you are not thinking of a different organization. Secondly, if you are thinking of the correct organizaion, I's like to say that as a neighbor of their high school I most definitely appreciate what they have done for my neighborhood. The building they puchased from the Columbus Public School system was a mess when they bought it and a hub of crime and vandalism for many years. It was a source of great concern for those of us directly affected by that property. Over the years that Tree of Life has been in our community they have made continous improvements to that facility and their grounds. These improvements have made a big difference in our community and I am proud to say that their school is a part of my neighborhood. As for the minion recruiting events I have to agree with you. They have not hosted these types of events to bring folks in for brainwashing. It appears to me that Tree of Life would rather lead by example and serve as an inspiration to those around them.
IDoit

Columbus, OH

#22 May 25, 2011
Christine wrote:
Guess what... Tree of Life owns the property! We do live in a free country right? Since when do people have to get permission from the government to educate their children in their own community in a building they own.
You fool. Laws are laws, zoning is zoning. I would have liked to build a 3.5 car garage on my lot in UA, but zoning prevents it. People and businesses still have to follow the rules and regulations set forth by the government, including zoning restrictions. It is zoned business, not residential (which is needed for a school). It happens to be a christian school - so what? Instead of following the law, they get bible thumpers all riled up that they are being discriminated against because it is a christian school.
I call foul. Using religion to circumvent the law is foolish. I myself am a devout christian. I cannot stand when things are done "in the name of God" or that are done "guided by God" that simply are skirting the law. Do we, as Americans, tolerate it when other religious group murder in the name of their God? Is Jihad now OK because their leaders are called by their God to do that?
Sure, this is just building a school, not terrorism. But where does one draw the line to allow religious organizations to skirt the law and cry foul when denied? If any other private school wanted to build there they would be denied as well!
papadontpreach

Dallas, TX

#23 May 25, 2011
Another Local Guy wrote:
<quoted text>KJB, you obviously are completely unaware of what Tree of Life is. To somehow compare it to Vineyard and World Harvest churches is ridiculous. As a small church (megachurch, seriously???) the people gather to praise and worship the Lord Jesus Christ. As a very small school it pushes the kids to their fullest capabilities in a loving, Christian environment.

I know UA folks think they are far too good for something like a Christian school but this is probably their best chance to get anything of substance in those buildings for the next several years.
Haha!! You're funny!
papadontpreach

Dallas, TX

#24 May 25, 2011
Resident for Equality wrote:
I agree with CJR's post. This is a Christian school not a brothel; a place to worship and to educate children. Besides the property tax issue, why wouldn't you want a positive place such as Tree of Life to buy the AOL building? I have a feeling that it has less to do with taxes and more to do with some of the UA residents not approving of the demographics that make up the school. I think it's sad that in this day and age, racism still runs rampant in our communities. I feel this school could only uplift and thrive in a community that is so affluent. The previous poster is right, if another company was interested in purchasing this vacant building, I think they would have done so by now. UA should be thankful someone as good as Tree of Life Schools is interested in buying it at all.
At least a brothel would bring tax revenue.
START TAXING CHURCHES!!
papadontpreach

Dallas, TX

#25 May 25, 2011
IDoit wrote:
<quoted text>You fool. Laws are laws, zoning is zoning. I would have liked to build a 3.5 car garage on my lot in UA, but zoning prevents it. People and businesses still have to follow the rules and regulations set forth by the government, including zoning restrictions. It is zoned business, not residential (which is needed for a school). It happens to be a christian school - so what? Instead of following the law, they get bible thumpers all riled up that they are being discriminated against because it is a christian school.
I call foul. Using religion to circumvent the law is foolish. I myself am a devout christian. I cannot stand when things are done "in the name of God" or that are done "guided by God" that simply are skirting the law. Do we, as Americans, tolerate it when other religious group murder in the name of their God? Is Jihad now OK because their leaders are called by their God to do that?
Sure, this is just building a school, not terrorism. But where does one draw the line to allow religious organizations to skirt the law and cry foul when denied? If any other private school wanted to build there they would be denied as well!
Well said!
Go TOL

Bergholz, OH

#26 Jul 27, 2011
It's funny that Bob Evans chose not to occupy former AOL buildings. Now pay attention. Tax burden may have nothing to do with it. Now think again. Why would Bob Evans want to purchase or lease a braaaaand new building or property in New Albany? Money is not the issue over former AOL buildings. Perhaps, former AOL buildings are NOT attractive nor appealing for the company's headquarters. I don't see how any large company would like to have their home office situated there.

Tree of Life is your best shot for this outdated buildings that need a major repair.
Karen

Columbus, OH

#27 Dec 17, 2011
Pasha wrote:
To clear the air:
1. Tree of Life is a school, not a church. They were formerly affiliated with the Church of Christ but are no longer. They are independent of any denomination.
2. The City of Upper Arlington has a fairly strong economic argument against Tree of Life relocating to UA. Losing somewhere in the neighborhood of $400,000 in school revenues is no small thing and they have every right to oppose it.
3. It's interesting that the building continues to generate revenue while unoccupied. AOL's desire to sell the building for 7.6 million indicates they very much would like it to be off their rolls. The problem is, who would is going to buy it, other than an organization like Tree of Life? With the economy in the state it is, no business is going to take on that sort of tax burden. My guess is it will remain unoccupied for the foreseeable future.
4. As for the first comment, you should read the disclosure reports of Vineyard Columbus and World Harvest - the salaries of their senior staffers are not anywhere in the neighborhood of the average CEO.
Supporting churches:

http://www.tolcs.org/about/churches.htm
smokinmama2000

Elyria, OH

#28 Dec 17, 2011
papadontpreach wrote:
<quoted text>
At least a brothel would bring tax revenue.
START TAXING CHURCHES!!
I don't think a CHURCH should be taxed. On the other hand, I DO think a church owned school,and all the land they own(except where the CHURCH stands)should be taxed!
Labia Majora

Magee, MS

#29 Dec 17, 2011
smokinmama2000 wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think a CHURCH should be taxed. On the other hand, I DO think a church owned school,and all the land they own(except where the CHURCH stands)should be taxed!
Why not? They're a business selling shit just like other businesses.
Curious

Columbus, OH

#30 Dec 22, 2013
No thanks on the tacky bible thumper school.

“Zuzu's Petals”

Since: Sep 10

Bedford Falls

#31 Dec 23, 2013
They should just put in a little casino, a bar and strip club. Jobs and taxes! UA is full of diversity and democrats, they love casinos, bars and strip clubs.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#32 Dec 23, 2013
Zoe Regen wrote:
They should just put in a little casino, a bar and strip club. Jobs and taxes! UA is full of diversity and democrats, they love casinos, bars and strip clubs.
absolutely agree.

Then the school needs to buy property out of Franklin County.

Sell the old property to a recycling company.
watch in ohio

United States

#33 Jan 1, 2014
TOL won't pay a cent in taxes yet it is making money hand over fist by leasing out the "cloud" services that Compuserve left in the building. UA probably is aware of this and they do not want competition from a school. UA has the upper had regarding "charter schools" since this is not a low performing school area!
UA Needs A Waffle House

Dublin, OH

#34 May 15, 2015
According to TOL's lawyer, the building is vacant - or so he said to the appeals court recently. Is it vacant or not?

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