Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#88 Apr 24, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, I see...he's not the president of those who oppose him. Well, that works both ways, little girl.
Are you holding your breath again? That isn't what I said and you know it. He's your president. He just doesn't have to be bothered with officially listening to your rejected agenda and he gets to invite over to his house whoever he wants. The losers are the ones who are supposed to play nice.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#89 Apr 24, 2013
Neutral Party wrote:
<quoted text>
I get it. Obama is using a tragedy to push an agenda that has nothing to do with the CT shootings.
No liberal has answered how this legislation would have prevented or protected them. Can you?
Did the law against murder prevent it? I guess we don't need that one either.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#90 Apr 24, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Same way laws prohibiting driving while intoxicated protect people from being killed by an intoxicated driver.
Just as with any criminal statute or safety regulation, the fact that there are people who will ignore the law does not mean that legislators should not enact it.
woof
hey Einstein....we already have gun laws protecting society per your drunk driving useless example.

we have thousands of gun laws already on the books.

same as immigration laws.

our government just picks and chooses which laws they in force, and it changes with each term.

in the meantime our useless congress argues over laws we already have, and want to pass them again?

criminals don't follow laws, so penalties for breaking them requires strict enforcement.

when do we start?
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#91 Apr 24, 2013
enforce

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#92 Apr 24, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Did the law against murder prevent it? I guess we don't need that one either.
Again, you prove you are no lawyer.

Laws do not exist to prevent crimes.
Laws exist to punish criminals.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#93 Apr 24, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, you prove you are no lawyer.
Laws do not exist to prevent crimes.
Laws exist to punish criminals.
Go enroll in an introductory college level criminal justice course.

woof
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#94 Apr 24, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, you prove you are no lawyer.
Laws do not exist to prevent crimes.
Laws exist to punish criminals.
What is the purpose of punishing those criminals? Mere vengeance?

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#95 Apr 24, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Go enroll in an introductory college level criminal justice course.
woof
If laws prevented crime, our nation would be crime-free.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#96 Apr 24, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Same way laws prohibiting driving while intoxicated protect people from being killed by an intoxicated driver.
Just as with any criminal statute or safety regulation, the fact that there are people who will ignore the law does not mean that legislators should not enact it.
woof
Laws don't prevent, they punish. And in the case of gun laws, they punish people who aren't doing anything wrong.

If something:

A. Doesn't demonstrably harm someone, and

B. Doesn't violate someone's superior right,

we need to seriously question why there should be a law against that something. In my opinion, every proposed law should be subject to strict scrutiny... Does it serve a legitimate and compelling government interest, is it narrowly tailored to meet that interest, and is it the least restrictive means to achieve that interest.
jeff

Searcy, AR

#97 Apr 24, 2013
U.N. member stated that Boston got what it deserved.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#98 Apr 24, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Laws don't prevent, they punish. And in the case of gun laws, they punish people who aren't doing anything wrong.
Why do laws punish?

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#99 Apr 24, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do laws punish?
Ask your favorite teacher on recess.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#100 Apr 24, 2013
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#101 Apr 24, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
If laws prevented crime, our nation would be crime-free.
Joe needs money. Joe knows that banks have money. Joe also knows that people who steal from banks often get caught later, and go to prison for at least 8 years or more. Joe also likes his freedom. Although he's poor, he has two kids at home who he loves quite a bit, and a lovely wife. Joe likes his life, other than being poor.

Absent Joe's knowledge of the consequences of being caught robbing banks, the next time Joe walks into a bank, why wouldn't Joe simply hold his hand in his coat pocket in such a manner that it appears to the teller that he has a gun, tell him or her that he has a gun, and then tell him or her to empty the cash drawer?

woof
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#102 Apr 24, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Ask your favorite teacher on recess.
Again, when your ill thought out declarations hit their inevitable dead end, you bail out with some juvenile barb.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#103 Apr 24, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Joe needs money. Joe knows that banks have money. Joe also knows that people who steal from banks often get caught later, and go to prison for at least 8 years or more. Joe also likes his freedom. Although he's poor, he has two kids at home who he loves quite a bit, and a lovely wife. Joe likes his life, other than being poor.
Absent Joe's knowledge of the consequences of being caught robbing banks, the next time Joe walks into a bank, why wouldn't Joe simply hold his hand in his coat pocket in such a manner that it appears to the teller that he has a gun, tell him or her that he has a gun, and then tell him or her to empty the cash drawer?
woof
Because Joe has a moral center?
Let us know when the law ends bank robberies.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#104 Apr 24, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do laws punish?
Because they create new lawbreakers when they are enacted. Most often people who have never harmed a living soul.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#105 Apr 24, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Joe needs money. Joe knows that banks have money. Joe also knows that people who steal from banks often get caught later, and go to prison for at least 8 years or more. Joe also likes his freedom. Although he's poor, he has two kids at home who he loves quite a bit, and a lovely wife. Joe likes his life, other than being poor.
Absent Joe's knowledge of the consequences of being caught robbing banks, the next time Joe walks into a bank, why wouldn't Joe simply hold his hand in his coat pocket in such a manner that it appears to the teller that he has a gun, tell him or her that he has a gun, and then tell him or her to empty the cash drawer?
woof
How about because Joe is an honest person? Do you really believe that most people don't break laws because they are afraid of the consequences? How cynical is that?
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#106 Apr 24, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Because they create new lawbreakers when they are enacted. Most often people who have never harmed a living soul.
I have no idea what that means.

What is the purpose of punishing? Revenge?
The Truth

San Luis Obispo, CA

#107 Apr 24, 2013
Janet Napolitano just purger herself to Congress on the Saudi Terror suspect? Sounds like it but whats going to be done?

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