Ohio prison guards suspended over New...

Ohio prison guards suspended over Newark killer's suicide | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 72 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jan 14, 2011, titled Ohio prison guards suspended over Newark killer's suicide | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

An investigation into an inmate's suicide has led to the suspension of three Ohio prison guards, now facing disciplinary hearings.

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Marilyn Horne

Carlsbad, CA

#22 Jan 14, 2011
But again, so what? This is a good thing. He murdered somebody and should have been executed anyway long ago.
Joe

Columbus, OH

#23 Jan 14, 2011
Are you out of your mind wrote:
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Perhaps you should try it out, take a job paying 15 bucks an hour & not know if you will make it home to see your family at the end of the day. Assaults on staff are outrageous, and the inmates to staff ratios are in critical & unsafe levels.
Regular cops on the street make 3 times as much money and don't deal with these dangerous felons every day. Most just cruise around eat doughnuts and write tickets. When there is the RARE officer involved in drugs they get caught & pay dearly for being an idiot.
Perhaps if we staffed the prisons at safe levels and paid those folks what they should be earning they could babysit in the fashion you would like them to do.
It takes 6 weeks of training to go from dumbass to "Professional Correction Officer" in the state of Ohio and work in Ohio Prisons. What career field that takes 6 weeks is worth a dam?

Many of the training programs for Ohio prisoners, like electrician, masonary, boiler operator, etc. have a more demanding educational program then that of the correction officers.
GTFO

Bucyrus, OH

#24 Jan 14, 2011
Are you out of your mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you should try it out, take a job paying 15 bucks an hour & not know if you will make it home to see your family at the end of the day. Assaults on staff are outrageous, and the inmates to staff ratios are in critical & unsafe levels.
Regular cops on the street make 3 times as much money and don't deal with these dangerous felons every day. Most just cruise around eat doughnuts and write tickets. When there is the RARE officer involved in drugs they get caught & pay dearly for being an idiot.
Perhaps if we staffed the prisons at safe levels and paid those folks what they should be earning they could babysit in the fashion you would like them to do.
doughnuts? really? way to be original. i'm sure CO's are all in outstanding physical condition. how many CO's are killed on the job every year? i doubt it is more then police officers. i'm not saying your job isn't dangerous but there's no reason to bash others because one of your own is being questioned. how do you think these "dangerous felons" get where they are? because police officers go out and arrest them. they bring them in so you can babysit them.
Retired Deputy

Chillicothe, OH

#25 Jan 14, 2011
You all are crazy if you think this is end of $$$ being spent on this scuzz ball.
His family will sue and they will get a settlement because you can bet every relative of his is getting calls from lawyers all day long.

Kristina

Glenwood, AR

#26 Jan 14, 2011
An eye for an eye MIGHT make the world go blind, but suicide in this case....GOOD!!! Spare the rest of us!
oldham

Helena, OH

#27 Jan 14, 2011
This guy was looking out for the taxpayer...saved us some money.

Also why not harvest some organs from them, BEFORE we stick the needle to them.
rollingmyeyes

United States

#28 Jan 14, 2011
I guess he imposed his own death penalty. Save the taxpayers some money.
Frijolitofarmer

Columbus, OH

#29 Jan 14, 2011
Are you out of your mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you should try it out, take a job paying 15 bucks an hour & not know if you will make it home to see your family at the end of the day...Regular cops on the street make 3 times as much money
I was a cop working for sixteen-something an hour, and that was after six years, a Teamsters contract, and an FOP contract. And that was for the state. A lot of villages and townships pay even less. Get your facts straight. SOME cops make three times that, but not all do.

"Assaults on staff are outrageous, and the inmates to staff ratios are in critical & unsafe levels."

I agree. No argument there.

"Most just cruise around eat doughnuts and write tickets."

So unfair stereotyping is okay when YOU do it...I see. I wish everyone who said this kind of stuff got the sort of service they described. Spout off like this, and then when you're getting stalked and threatened by a former inmate, the cops would just eat doughnuts and write you a ticket for bothering them.

"When there is the RARE officer involved in drugs..."

...or sex with inmates, or betting on fights between inmates, or demanding sex or bribes from visitors, or seizing property that's not contraband (like family photos, college textbooks, etc.), or unnecessarily harassing inmates, or falsifying reports, or looking for any kind of excuse to assault an inmate, or denying medical care to injured inmates, or standing by while inmates get beaten (or raped or shanked), or joining gangs and getting all tatted up. One of the COs who survived the Lucasville riot was protected by inmates in the Aryan Brotherhood because he had neo-nazi tattoos on his neck.

I've known many prison guards. And while I liked many things about many of them, I'd have to say that they're all in the right place, just on the wrong side of the bars. Maybe being surrounded by criminals all day rubs off on you. Maybe being paid to make other people suffer poisons a person's soul and warps their mind. I don't know what it is. But I would sooner be homeless than be a prison guard. That's why I dislike so many Sheriff's Offices' policies of making deputies work the jails before they can patrol. It doesn't make you a better patrol officer and it makes you a worse human being.

I mean, really, being put in prison is the worst punishment we have in this society short of the death penalty...and guards make a career of going to prison every day. Sure, you go home after a shift or two, and you get a paycheck, but you're still spending most of your waking life locked up in prison. How sick do you have to be to like that?
ODRC Secrets

Dublin, OH

#30 Jan 14, 2011
Are you out of your mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you should try it out, take a job paying 15 bucks an hour & not know if you will make it home to see your family at the end of the day. Assaults on staff are outrageous, and the inmates to staff ratios are in critical & unsafe levels.
Regular cops on the street make 3 times as much money and don't deal with these dangerous felons every day. Most just cruise around eat doughnuts and write tickets. When there is the RARE officer involved in drugs they get caught & pay dearly for being an idiot.
Perhaps if we staffed the prisons at safe levels and paid those folks what they should be earning they could babysit in the fashion you would like them to do.
COs are no where near cops. They are babysitters and turn keys. CO's can make it easy or hard on themselves. The good ones have no problems. ODRC has more than its share of bad ones and the media should report more on it. Nobody is forcing them to take the job.
ODRC Secrets

Dublin, OH

#31 Jan 14, 2011
Maybe the Dispatch should report on the number of COs who have criminal records.

DRC would like you to believe that drugs come into the prisons other ways, and they do, but the majority come in with the dirty COs. They either get paid with money or sex.
G I Joe

Marysville, OH

#32 Jan 14, 2011
They should furnish every cell with a ro[pe that way they will not ruin the sheets. It is easier to tie the rope.
Thunder Lizard

Chillicothe, OH

#33 Jan 14, 2011
Take the money saved and give it to the guards. The convict got 25 to life, well the sentence was carried out a little earlier than expected. So What.
Daily Customer

United States

#34 Jan 14, 2011
Frijolitofarmer wrote:
<quoted text>
I was a cop working for sixteen-something an hour, and that was after six years, a Teamsters contract, and an FOP contract. And that was for the state. A lot of villages and townships pay even less. Get your facts straight. SOME cops make three times that, but not all do.
"Assaults on staff are outrageous, and the inmates to staff ratios are in critical & unsafe levels."
I agree. No argument there.
"Most just cruise around eat doughnuts and write tickets."
So unfair stereotyping is okay when YOU do it...I see. I wish everyone who said this kind of stuff got the sort of service they described. Spout off like this, and then when you're getting stalked and threatened by a former inmate, the cops would just eat doughnuts and write you a ticket for bothering them.
"When there is the RARE officer involved in drugs..."
...or sex with inmates, or betting on fights between inmates, or demanding sex or bribes from visitors, or seizing property that's not contraband (like family photos, college textbooks, etc.), or unnecessarily harassing inmates, or falsifying reports, or looking for any kind of excuse to assault an inmate, or denying medical care to injured inmates, or standing by while inmates get beaten (or raped or shanked), or joining gangs and getting all tatted up. One of the COs who survived the Lucasville riot was protected by inmates in the Aryan Brotherhood because he had neo-nazi tattoos on his neck.
I've known many prison guards. And while I liked many things about many of them, I'd have to say that they're all in the right place, just on the wrong side of the bars. Maybe being surrounded by criminals all day rubs off on you. Maybe being paid to make other people suffer poisons a person's soul and warps their mind. I don't know what it is. But I would sooner be homeless than be a prison guard. That's why I dislike so many Sheriff's Offices' policies of making deputies work the jails before they can patrol. It doesn't make you a better patrol officer and it makes you a worse human being.
I mean, really, being put in prison is the worst punishment we have in this society short of the death penalty...and guards make a career of going to prison every day. Sure, you go home after a shift or two, and you get a paycheck, but you're still spending most of your waking life locked up in prison. How sick do you have to be to like that?
I would like to nominate your post as probably THE most intelligent post on any forum I have read this year. Well done, sir!
dmm

Columbus, OH

#35 Jan 14, 2011
I wish more prisoners would do the same. I'm sick of paying for their free ride and they believe they should have rights. We have these prisoners with several kids that the state also pays for, so there is a double whammy. Rehab not prisons is the answer with most prisoners. What good is sending a druggy to prison for when they get out the same happens.
Shakespeare

Columbus, OH

#36 Jan 14, 2011
ImUrPO wrote:
<quoted text>
Your A Moron !!
By the way, whats "PYCHOS" ??
Like I said, Moron !!!
I BELIEVE IT'S "YOU'RE A MORON" not "Your A Moron". Remember that "Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act." Dietrich Bonhoeffer
The Observer

Columbus, OH

#37 Jan 14, 2011
What's the problem? He saved us tax dollars.
Just My 2 Cents

Springfield, OH

#38 Jan 14, 2011
Sounds like you could not make it as a cop. I work for the DRC and I am in no way like the scum as you say babysit.
Frijolitofarmer wrote:
<quoted text>
I was a cop working for sixteen-something an hour, and that was after six years, a Teamsters contract, and an FOP contract. And that was for the state. A lot of villages and townships pay even less. Get your facts straight. SOME cops make three times that, but not all do.
"Assaults on staff are outrageous, and the inmates to staff ratios are in critical & unsafe levels."
I agree. No argument there.
"Most just cruise around eat doughnuts and write tickets."
So unfair stereotyping is okay when YOU do it...I see. I wish everyone who said this kind of stuff got the sort of service they described. Spout off like this, and then when you're getting stalked and threatened by a former inmate, the cops would just eat doughnuts and write you a ticket for bothering them.
"When there is the RARE officer involved in drugs..."
...or sex with inmates, or betting on fights between inmates, or demanding sex or bribes from visitors, or seizing property that's not contraband (like family photos, college textbooks, etc.), or unnecessarily harassing inmates, or falsifying reports, or looking for any kind of excuse to assault an inmate, or denying medical care to injured inmates, or standing by while inmates get beaten (or raped or shanked), or joining gangs and getting all tatted up. One of the COs who survived the Lucasville riot was protected by inmates in the Aryan Brotherhood because he had neo-nazi tattoos on his neck.
I've known many prison guards. And while I liked many things about many of them, I'd have to say that they're all in the right place, just on the wrong side of the bars. Maybe being surrounded by criminals all day rubs off on you. Maybe being paid to make other people suffer poisons a person's soul and warps their mind. I don't know what it is. But I would sooner be homeless than be a prison guard. That's why I dislike so many Sheriff's Offices' policies of making deputies work the jails before they can patrol. It doesn't make you a better patrol officer and it makes you a worse human being.
I mean, really, being put in prison is the worst punishment we have in this society short of the death penalty...and guards make a career of going to prison every day. Sure, you go home after a shift or two, and you get a paycheck, but you're still spending most of your waking life locked up in prison. How sick do you have to be to like that?
chilli parent

Powell, OH

#39 Jan 14, 2011
they should be given a medal for letting the scum kill them selves.. so sick of losers getting better treatment than those who obey the law and are good people
Rudy

Columbus, OH

#40 Jan 14, 2011
Frijolitofarmer wrote:
<quoted text>
I was a cop working for sixteen-something an hour, and that was after six years, a Teamsters contract, and an FOP contract. And that was for the state. A lot of villages and townships pay even less. Get your facts straight. SOME cops make three times that, but not all do.
"Assaults on staff are outrageous, and the inmates to staff ratios are in critical & unsafe levels."
I agree. No argument there.
"Most just cruise around eat doughnuts and write tickets."
So unfair stereotyping is okay when YOU do it...I see. I wish everyone who said this kind of stuff got the sort of service they described. Spout off like this, and then when you're getting stalked and threatened by a former inmate, the cops would just eat doughnuts and write you a ticket for bothering them.
"When there is the RARE officer involved in drugs..."
...or sex with inmates, or betting on fights between inmates, or demanding sex or bribes from visitors, or seizing property that's not contraband (like family photos, college textbooks, etc.), or unnecessarily harassing inmates, or falsifying reports, or looking for any kind of excuse to assault an inmate, or denying medical care to injured inmates, or standing by while inmates get beaten (or raped or shanked), or joining gangs and getting all tatted up. One of the COs who survived the Lucasville riot was protected by inmates in the Aryan Brotherhood because he had neo-nazi tattoos on his neck.
I've known many prison guards. And while I liked many things about many of them, I'd have to say that they're all in the right place, just on the wrong side of the bars. Maybe being surrounded by criminals all day rubs off on you. Maybe being paid to make other people suffer poisons a person's soul and warps their mind. I don't know what it is. But I would sooner be homeless than be a prison guard. That's why I dislike so many Sheriff's Offices' policies of making deputies work the jails before they can patrol. It doesn't make you a better patrol officer and it makes you a worse human being.
I mean, really, being put in prison is the worst punishment we have in this society short of the death penalty...and guards make a career of going to prison every day. Sure, you go home after a shift or two, and you get a paycheck, but you're still spending most of your waking life locked up in prison. How sick do you have to be to like that?
Well spoken and truthful. You are calling it as it is...
CSD

Columbus, OH

#41 Jan 14, 2011
I'm sure he was pleasant to deal with.

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