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Bob Hunter commentary: Ohio State players deserve more blame for this mess | BuckeyeXtra

There are 298 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jun 1, 2011, titled Bob Hunter commentary: Ohio State players deserve more blame for this mess | BuckeyeXtra. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Sometimes it isn't easy to see back through all the muck, especially when it has been accumulating for almost six months.

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gjzuidy

East Lansing, MI

#1 Jun 1, 2011
Like I have tried to convince Tenn Jerry, sweaterliar's history of crooked, look-the-other-way transgressions have been going on since YSU. While Jerry and others will continue to live in gaga land, the corruption in cbus is widespread and long-standing. At the same time, it is NOT surprising...ya' hire a crook ya' get a crook. The chokeyes are gonna feel the full wrath of the NCAA and it will take a decade or more to recover....Every win under under the cheater should be vacated as he has never hd a team that didn't have a large number of ineligible players, and he knew it. Sleaze at it's worst.....

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blink

Dublin, OH

#2 Jun 1, 2011
I hope to never see #2 in a Buckeye uniform again.
Don

Dayton, OH

#3 Jun 1, 2011
Don't Blame the Students.
If the players knew, as in the quote of Pryor "get what I want" that OSU football stars were entitled to illegal payoffs going back at least three years, don't blame them. These are kids, some real spoiled, and if the rules aren't explicit and enforced, don't blame them. In fact, they were probably following the "rules" as they knew them to be enforced.
Your article seems a poor distraction from the leadership and accountability at OSU that appear to to a rapidly growing number of observers to be in violation of NCCA rules and more over a long time.

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Since: Sep 09

Defiance, OH

#4 Jun 1, 2011
Bob,

All of the local television stations as well as ESPN ran the footage of Terrelle Pryor pulling away from a Sunday night team meeting -- in a sports car. The sports car had "temporary dealer plates" on them. Unreal.

With all of the allegations swirling around him, you would think (Key word: Think) that Pryor would have had the good sense to cop a ride home with another player or an assistant coach. Imagine if you're under investigation for shop-lifting at a leather store and you decide to show up at an event where TV camera's will be -- in a leather jacket?

The ultra-sad aspect of this entire Tressel & Tat-gate saga, is that 80-some roster players and several assistant coaches are blameless. They followed the rules. They "got it."

The innocent will pay for the sins of the knuckleheads for the balance of their playing lives at Ohio State.
Ben Stilson

Portsmouth, OH

#5 Jun 1, 2011
When will the Dispatch, or any other reputable newspaper, investigate how other kids at other schools afford their $500 ink-sleeves? They all have them; there must be thousands in the NCAA. All paid retail from their high school savings accounts?

Or did the kids and Tressel remain silent about discounted tattoos because this truly is a case where "everyone does it."

Who could've ever imagined a lie about a tattoo would outweigh a lifetime of work and millions raised for charities? Maybe Coach can reapply.
SMS

Columbus, OH

#6 Jun 1, 2011
We need to stop the admiration of these so called sports heroes. They always feel they are entitled?
Tommy

Grand Haven, MI

#7 Jun 1, 2011
Tressel is the adult, he is paid to run the program. He chose to lie in the preseason, because he was ranked #1 and these are 5 great players. Would Tressel have risked his career and lied if these were 4th string walk on players? He broke the rules to win more games, period.

Tressel has led the nation in minor NCAA violations while at OSU, he left YSU with severe sanctions and now appears to have left OSU with sanctions coming just down the road.

Tressel has a track record of dishonesty...

http://genuinelysarcastic.blogspot.com/2011/0...

Call a spade a spade.
liar tressel

Beverly, OH

#8 Jun 1, 2011
all this showed is that coach Tress is NOT near the coach or man you all made him out to be. Not even close. Tired of hearing from ex football players saying what a great man he is. Sorry, but this is his FOURTH violation for the same improper benefit problems. Coach was a LIAR and a CHEATER!!!!
liars

Beverly, OH

#9 Jun 1, 2011
John in Worthington wrote:
Bob,
All of the local television stations as well as ESPN ran the footage of Terrelle Pryor pulling away from a Sunday night team meeting -- in a sports car. The sports car had "temporary dealer plates" on them. Unreal.
With all of the allegations swirling around him, you would think (Key word: Think) that Pryor would have had the good sense to cop a ride home with another player or an assistant coach. Imagine if you're under investigation for shop-lifting at a leather store and you decide to show up at an event where TV camera's will be -- in a leather jacket?
The ultra-sad aspect of this entire Tressel & Tat-gate saga, is that 80-some roster players and several assistant coaches are blameless. They followed the rules. They "got it."
The innocent will pay for the sins of the knuckleheads for the balance of their playing lives at Ohio State.
EVERY SINGLE ONE of them is to blame for not taking this issue to the compliance office. Its called cheating and lying
SMS

Columbus, OH

#10 Jun 1, 2011
OK Ohio State it's time to clean house. When this season is over I want to see a new coach bring in an entire new staff. It's not a guarantee, but if there are bad apples still in the basket, they need to go just like their head coach did. Does anyone think the assistants are clean too, which includes Mr. Fickell
Hartwall

Fort Mill, SC

#11 Jun 1, 2011
I am SO happy you wrote this article. I have felt this way from the start. These individuals involved owe Coach T their lives. Shame on them all!
SMS

Columbus, OH

#12 Jun 1, 2011
I wonder what the AD knew too??
OSU Parent

United States

#13 Jun 1, 2011
The players were stupid, no doubt about it. Tressel deserved to be fired. However this scandal goes much higher up on the ladder. Gene Smith is just as guilty as Tressel because he and the people who draw a paycheck from the compliance office looked the other way too.
Thunder Lizard

Chillicothe, OH

#14 Jun 1, 2011
Players deserve more blame for TRESSEL'S LYING? Get real this is a GROWN man who have REPEATEDLY violated NCAA rules with "I didn't know about." Yeah Pryor and the other screwed up and should be made to leave school and PAY BACK their scholarships. BUT TRESSEL is the one that lied to the NCAA so it is his RESPONSIBILTY, remember that he sure preached it enough.
Hokamania

Monument, CO

#15 Jun 1, 2011
The whole community is guilty of adding to this mess. The rabid Ohio State fans have created a organized crime like fans base. Try recruiting kids with a little character and maybe your coach wouldn't have to run around trying to meet expectations that are not possible to obtain without violating NCAA rules. Go Heat 3 wins away baby!!!!
Publius

Chillicothe, OH

#16 Jun 1, 2011
I'd like to know how in the heck Pryor was able to get multiple HELMETS to just give away. That seems extremely fishy.
Steve

Columbus, OH

#17 Jun 1, 2011
Every coach of a major sport at a major university should spend some time in the parking lot . He has been to their homes on recruiting visits he knows what they can afford . Gee did anyone ever ask John Wooten where his players got those fine cars ? That's how long this has been going on.....40 years.
Richard

Lewis Center, OH

#18 Jun 1, 2011
How did the administration missed the messes at YSU when it interviewed
Tress ten years ago? Dod they miss them or look the other way? OSU wasn't looking for a saint, but we weren't looking for trouble either.

Woody said it all when he titled his book You Win With People".
Quality people with character and we have had a number of those kind of people play football for OSU. We have also had a few self-centered prima donas like TP. The best thing Luke could do is cut the bum loose.

Bob, you have been the best writer at this paper for years. Great article!
Publius

Chillicothe, OH

#19 Jun 1, 2011
Don wrote:
Don't Blame the Students.
If the players knew, as in the quote of Pryor "get what I want" that OSU football stars were entitled to illegal payoffs going back at least three years, don't blame them. These are kids, some real spoiled, and if the rules aren't explicit and enforced, don't blame them. In fact, they were probably following the "rules" as they knew them to be enforced.
Fist of all, Don, they are not STUDENTS. That much is clearly evident. Secondly, you're over rationalizing if you are essentially saying that "if they are not stopped, you can't blame them for conintinually breaking the rules". If that's what you truly believe, I would have loved to have been a kid growing up with you as a father. It is attitudes like yours that fill this punk kids with huge senses of entitlement and zero sense of accountability, responsibility, and self-control. Shame on you, dude. Shame on you.
REP

Westerville, OH

#20 Jun 1, 2011
I completely agree. The problem is that we begin treating good athletes like stars when they are in middle school. When this adulation continues all through high school and into college, it comes as no surprise that they believe they are above the law. The student part of student-athlete has completely disappeared. It's a shame that many of these individuals can't postpone cashing in on their skills and notoriety until they first earn their degrees, or at least use up their eligibility. But, come to think of it, we probably aren't a nation of people who do well at deferring gratification...

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