Six local post offices could be shuttered | The Columbus Dispatch

Six Columbus-area post offices could close as the U.S. Postal Service takes a look at eliminating retail locations in favor of offering services inside local businesses, such as pharmacies and grocery stores. Full Story
North Campus

Columbus, OH

#22 Jul 27, 2011
The could adjust ZIP-code territory while they're at it, too. That would help with real estate sales. For examnple, downtown has at least three ZIP Codes (two just for PO Boxes). The Short North shares a ZIP Code with the southern half of the University District. Clitonville is split between two ZIP Codes. The southern half of Clintonville shares a ZIP Code with the northern half of the University District. Additionally, OSU-proper has its own ZIP Code.

The USPS could organize them as follows:
1. Downtown-Short North (1 ZIP Code: 43215)
2. University District (1 ZIP Code: 43201)
3. Clintonville (1 ZIP Code: 43202)

This would eliminate a three ZIP Codes (43218, 43266, and 43214) and one post office.

And it would organize the neighborhoods properly in ZIP-Code territories that makes sense for real estate sales--determining comparable home values.
Someone

Columbus, OH

#23 Jul 27, 2011
Old School wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for noticing. I had union teachers.
So did I -

At some point you may want to stop blaming your shortcomings on some external factor and take responsibility for yourself. You claim to be "Old School" - you sound a lot like those you revile....
DMR

Kingston, TN

#24 Jul 27, 2011
Bodie wrote:
You have many rural areas that can do without their own post office now too. Adelphi in Ross County has a few residents and a post office less then 1 mile away in Laurelville in Hocking County they have one too. That makes no sense. Postal Service is so outdated in the way it's can't run rather then how it should be updated to 21st century business standards it's amazing it has not collapsed.
Having very deep family roots in Adelphi and Laurelville I can generally agree that the two post offices would be good models for consolidation. I fully understand why both were needed many years ago, but that is realistically no longer the case. Innovation might be a key here.

I do support the idea of reducing home delivery of mail. I would prefer to see the USPS go to a model of home delivery three days a week. Home mail delivery on Monday, Wednesday and Friday would most likely fill the need for the vast majority of home needs. If an individual needs delivery more frequently, they could rent a P.O. Box.

Additionally there does need to be some adjustments in the cost of postage. The vast majority of the mail I receive, and the same is true for my friends and family, is outright unsolicited and unwanted junk mail. The huge volume alone of such mail indicates the price is too cheap. It is time to get very serious about increasing the bulk mail rate to a price that does more reflect the actual costs of delivery.

Another area of postage rate increases is related to the special rates provided for non-profits and churches. Simply put, those special rates can and should be eliminated. I get ten to twenty solicitations from non-profits and churches, that I have never heard of before, each week, and I can safely say I am not a person of great means. My friends and family experience a similar rate of such mail. This special rate for non-profits and churches is a luxury the USPS can no longer afford and has the possible implication of endorsement of that non-profit or church.

Finally the USPS needs to look at the excessive discounts given to large users of certain mail classes, such as Media Mail. Media Mail is the class of mail used for books, videos, and other recorded media. The basic rate, and the basic rate with the small discount for using electronic shipping labels (bar coding) is fair. The problem is high volume shippers receive huge discounts that are clearly excessive. The high volume shippers, depending on the volume and degree of sorting,(Meaning five digit zip code or nine digit zip code, plus the number of parcels shipped) can get a discount of over 75 cents. on the first pound, which is the minimum rate. That is how a number of large businesses are able to sell books on various on-line sites for a penny. They make money on the shipping that small sellers cannot. Meaning the USPS discount is so large, that these large sellers make a healthy profit on the shipping. The discounts for large volume Media Mail users needs to be cut in half.

I recall over the years the USPS has had "mini" locations in retail stores in Columbus. I even recall, as a small child, in Worthington, that there was a small postal facility being operated out of a person's garage, in Colonial Hills.(That would have been in the 1950's or very early 1960's.) I also recall there was a small postal outlet in Graceland at that time in one of the "dime" stores. I also recall that in the 1970's and 1980's there were USPS postal boxes available at several Big Bear stores.

The USPS should close the low performing offices. However innovation is needed. The idea of locating limited service postal facilities in retail areas, town halls, or community centers does make a great deal of sense.

Since: Jun 10

Canal Winchester, OH

#25 Jul 27, 2011
The Post Office hasn't changed - it is still designed to work with the citizens, unlike the other big shippers that prefer businesses and their volume.
Why would someone need to GO to the Post Office?
If you have no computer, there is the "Stamps By Mail" program that allows you to order stamps sent to you at no extra fee. There is also the Rural Carrier, if you live on a Rural Route - they have to bring you stamps and money orders and mail packages, etc. They can even get the mail item weighed for you, so you don't have to buy one of those (cheap) digital scales.
For those who have computers, you can pick out all kinds of stamps to order. You can print out priority package labels with postage pre-applied and then have your city or rural carrier pick up, usually from your doorstep. That on-line ( www.usps.com ) shipping cost even has a discount on services.
If you feel the need to go out of your home, there are contract stations and mail points such as Meijer, Wal-Mart, Target, chain grocery stores, etc.(just ask their customer service or checkout clerk).
True, it is hard for some to change old habits. Take a moment and look over all the alternatives - you are certain to find a couple ways to work with the Post Office at no extra effort. You might even save time, gas and get a discount by changing old habits.
Daily Customer

Columbus, OH

#26 Jul 27, 2011
Someone wrote:
<quoted text>
No, the post office is failing because it runs a single rate structure for everything. It costs the same to a consumer to mail a letter across the street or to Alsaka - Fedex and UPS charge by zone.
Also, the USPS is actually cost competitive for certain things like lighter weight packages. I mail things for Ebay constantly - USPS rates actually beat Fedex for small items, and I use a Fedex account.
A better question to ask is - other countries have Post Offices - why aren't they in trouble? They also have email and direct deposit I am sure.
Our postage rates are far less than any other country - and keep in mind that Canada Post just went through a lockout where no mail was delivered for 2 weeks.
Imaginethat

Jackson, OH

#27 Jul 27, 2011
get real wrote:
The post office is failing due to one primary aspect, it's run by government.
Cut Saturday delivery.
Offer specials for mailings like:!00 postcards sent for 10 bucks.
Short North office is open 9:30 to 4:00...this is worse than bankers hours! Expand hours not close stores and run this as a bussiness not a damn handout to govt. workers!
Fedex and UPS make millions ...no reason the post office can't!
FYI
Since its reorganization into an "independent organization," the USPS has become self-sufficient and has not directly received taxpayer-dollars since the early 1980s with the minor exception of subsidies for costs associated with the disabled and overseas voters. The decline of mail volume, due to the increased usage of email, has forced the postal service to look to other sources of revenue while cutting costs to maintain this financial balance.

UPS is also "unionized."
Madashell

Columbus, OH

#28 Jul 27, 2011
Please close the Short North Branch. The employee's are rude lazy mean and racist

“Blah Blah Blah”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#29 Jul 27, 2011
DMR wrote:
I do support the idea of reducing home delivery of mail. I would prefer to see the USPS go to a model of home delivery three days a week. Home mail delivery on Monday, Wednesday and Friday would most likely fill the need for the vast majority of home needs. If an individual needs delivery more frequently, they could rent a P.O. Box.
I would suggest Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday if a three day model were to become mandatory. The Fed govt takes so many Holidays on Mondays, you could go almost a week with no mail since the post office does not deliver on Fed Holidays.

“Blah Blah Blah”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#30 Jul 27, 2011
I wish I knew which post offices were not busy! On the occasion I must go to one, the line is always out the door and ONE worker. I fail to see how the retail post office is losing money.

Since: Jun 09

Hilliard, OH

#31 Jul 27, 2011
120? Should be 420.
Marvin Glep

Westerville, OH

#32 Jul 27, 2011
get real wrote:
Afganistan bankrupted the USSR. It's doing the same to the U.S.
Save our Post Office! Save our economy! STOP THE WARS!!!!!!
So, it was Afghanistan that bankrupted the Soviet economy and not 70+ years of socialism? Get Real indeed!
Marvin Glep

Westerville, OH

#33 Jul 27, 2011
get real wrote:
Wow, talk about brainwashed people! No one even wants to think of the 3 wars we are in.
SAVE OUR POST OFFICE !!!
SAVE OUR ECONOMY!!!
STOP THE WARS!!!
USSR'S Afganistan war bankrupted them.
U.S.'s Afganistan war is bankrupting the U.S. That's why they want to eliminate YOUR Post Office!
American's ...open your eyes! THINK! We are in 3 wars!....stop them before they stop us!
Thanks. We got the message the first few times. We also evaluated your "argument" and found it, shall we say, lacking anything resembling fact. But you get an "A" for effort, though an "F" for content.
reality check

Columbus, OH

#34 Jul 27, 2011
Most of my bills are paid by e transfer
Shop online and order online
Card are e cards
packages fedex or ups
what is left
JUNK
a new model is needed quickly
DeserveIt

Columbus, OH

#35 Jul 27, 2011
I'm sick of my tax money subsidizing union schmucks. Get rid of the post office and privatize mail delivery. Let UPS or FedEx deliver mail. You can do almost everything online and who needs junk mail anyway? The Post Office is a relic of the 20th century that we don't need anymore.
DeserveIt

Columbus, OH

#36 Jul 27, 2011
reality check wrote:
Most of my bills are paid by e transfer
Shop online and order online
Card are e cards
packages fedex or ups
what is left
JUNK
a new model is needed quickly
My model is no post office.
Marvin Glep

Westerville, OH

#38 Jul 27, 2011
Someone wrote:
<quoted text>
No, the post office is failing because it runs a single rate structure for everything. It costs the same to a consumer to mail a letter across the street or to Alsaka - Fedex and UPS charge by zone.
Also, the USPS is actually cost competitive for certain things like lighter weight packages. I mail things for Ebay constantly - USPS rates actually beat Fedex for small items, and I use a Fedex account.
A better question to ask is - other countries have Post Offices - why aren't they in trouble? They also have email and direct deposit I am sure.
OK, smart guy. And how much time do you think it might take to mail a letter from the post office if there were multiple zones for sending a first-class letter? And what would that unbelievable wait affect the other customers wait in line while the clerk figures out which zone and the postage to that zone?

As for the Post Office beating Fed Ex and UPS- I use the Post Office every day for shipping for my business. We long ago changed our preference to the Post Office for several reasons. 1)Cost. UPS and Fed Ex, both union shops with ridiculous contract costs continue to raise rates 3-6% to cover automatic price increases every year. Don't forget the additional "Fuel Cost Recovery" charges for the stuff UPS and Fed Ex forgot to build into the basic rate structure. The Post Office does also but not as much. 2)Shipping options. The Post Office has a fantastic delivery record on Priority Mail and Express Mail (watch it, though. Express Mail has some cities that require a 2 day delivery time instead of one day- their contractor for this? Fed Ex. What a shock). I can ship a package to Los Angeles CA on a Thursday and have it arrive via Priority Mail on Saturday in a small flat-rate box for $4.95. If I send this same package by UPS to a residence the package will not arrive before the following Wednesday and the cost is well more than double. If I send a 4 lb package to the same address in a Regional Rate Box A it goes for $9.37 via Post Office (2 lb rate) but nearly $12 by UPS. That's right, more than $2 per package more than UPS in 4 days LESS time. Now that's service! Now multiply those cost and time savings by about 15 packages per day and you will see why UPS and Fed Ex are feeling the heat but not yet seeing the light. Compare Express Mail to UPS Next Day Air if you want a real contrast. The bottom line is, we use the Post Office about 95% of the time because it works. UPS and Fed Ex get used in highly specialized circumstances or customer request because they can't get the job done.
Marvin Glep

Westerville, OH

#39 Jul 27, 2011
DeserveIt wrote:
<quoted text>
My model is no post office.
Thus proving that you are a numbskull.
aEnzyte Bob XPaid Cust

Denver, CO

#40 Jul 27, 2011
Marvin Glep wrote:
<quoted text>OK, smart guy. And how much time do you think it might take to mail a letter from the post office if there were multiple zones for sending a first-class letter? And what would that unbelievable wait affect the other customers wait in line while the clerk figures out which zone and the postage to that zone?
As for the Post Office beating Fed Ex and UPS- I use the Post Office every day for shipping for my business. We long ago changed our preference to the Post Office for several reasons. 1)Cost. UPS and Fed Ex, both union shops with ridiculous contract costs continue to raise rates 3-6% to cover automatic price increases every year. Don't forget the additional "Fuel Cost Recovery" charges for the stuff UPS and Fed Ex forgot to build into the basic rate structure. The Post Office does also but not as much. 2)Shipping options. The Post Office has a fantastic delivery record on Priority Mail and Express Mail (watch it, though. Express Mail has some cities that require a 2 day delivery time instead of one day- their contractor for this? Fed Ex. What a shock). I can ship a package to Los Angeles CA on a Thursday and have it arrive via Priority Mail on Saturday in a small flat-rate box for $4.95. If I send this same package by UPS to a residence the package will not arrive before the following Wednesday and the cost is well more than double. If I send a 4 lb package to the same address in a Regional Rate Box A it goes for $9.37 via Post Office (2 lb rate) but nearly $12 by UPS. That's right, more than $2 per package more than UPS in 4 days LESS time. Now that's service! Now multiply those cost and time savings by about 15 packages per day and you will see why UPS and Fed Ex are feeling the heat but not yet seeing the light. Compare Express Mail to UPS Next Day Air if you want a real contrast. The bottom line is, we use the Post Office about 95% of the time because it works. UPS and Fed Ex get used in highly specialized circumstances or customer request because they can't get the job done.
Agreed. Privatization sometimes works and sometimes it doesn't. Non-profit hospitals, Columbus water and sewer and the post office are examples of public services that work better than the for-profit version.
southender

Columbus, OH

#41 Jul 27, 2011
I have had a p.o. box at the Innis Ave. location for over 15 years. When my mail arrives I would have to contact everyone about a change in address I guess.
MAYBE THESE FOOLS WHO RUN THE POST OFFICE WILL DO IT FOR ME AND THE OTHER CUSTOMERS.
How can you run a businees and lose 6 billion dollars in a year? I heard this figure on TV news.
At this location the parking lot looks like ??it.
The fence was knocked down over 2 months ago and it is still down. It has parking for over 20 cars in fromt and many more in the back.
If I had to go to the German Vikkage location? There would be about 15 parking spots.
Yea, the post office are so stupid. Not so much the workers & carriers, but the management.
Marvin Glep

Westerville, OH

#43 Jul 27, 2011
aEnzyte Bob XPaid Cust wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed. Privatization sometimes works and sometimes it doesn't. Non-profit hospitals, Columbus water and sewer and the post office are examples of public services that work better than the for-profit version.
And just where are these "non-profit" hospitals? The Post Office would be making a profit and beating its competition if it hadn't been run by the government as a "non-profit." Fed Ex and UPS don't compete- they collude to raise rates with government support. Who says Columbus water and sewer wouldn't work better if privatized? What are you comparing to? Where would we find private water and sewer companies with competition so that we can compare? Lack of evidence does not mean proof of concept.

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