Oliver Canterberry

New Albany, OH

#23 May 20, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Specific quotes, Cranberry--and how they impacted the fate of non-minorities, or anything else.
And with regard to the comment in Dreams from My Father--seems like you have a bit of overdue homework on that one. Who was he quoting, what was the context, what was he talking about and what was the significance for Obama?
The significance is that Obama blames Whites for everything, including bashing his own White grandmother as a covert racist.

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#24 May 20, 2013
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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The facts are that Barak Hussein Obama is proven liar who constantly plays the race card.
And yet, you seem to be having a difficult time coming up with specific quotes or instances and tying them to specific outcomes.

Saying that he is "always" or "constantly" playing the race card, or that he is "a proven liar" adds no strength to your argument.

And frankly, when many people make these kinds of charges without substantiation, it leads others to wonder if the issue is not really what is seen and provable, or if those folks making the charges are seeing through race-tinted lenses.

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#25 May 20, 2013
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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See the post from the Artist, Trayvon Martin (who Obama said his own son would look like), Gates where Obama said the cops were stupid. You are so emotionally invested in Barak Hussein Obama that you can't think straight. This is worse than Watergate because Obama is Black.
This is worse than Watergate because four people, that we know of died, and others were severely injured and hospitalized to this day.(although "Benghazi was a long time ago.") And it is a matter of national security.

State Department employees were threatened, hollered at, demoted, given the 'cold shoulder' for doing their job and being honest.

Now, what possible hidden agenda could Gregory Hicks have to come forward along with the other gentlemen?

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#26 May 20, 2013
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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The significance is that Obama blames Whites for everything, including bashing his own White grandmother as a covert racist.
Now, instead of substantiating your original argument, you are doubling down and drifting off into hyperbole.

But, speaking in terms of such things as power, prestige and influence, would you not agree that those who possess those things bear a greater share of responsibility (or blame if you will) for outcomes than those who do not possess such things?

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#27 May 20, 2013
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Well, Karl, I will give you a D rather than an F for actually turning something in.
Now go back and read the directions and provide complete answers to the questions asked.
And by the way, is any mention of race by a black person considered to be "playing the race card"? Is the mere recognition of the role of race in any decision-making process (such as who to follow and kill, who to arrest, etc) past or present "playing the race card"?
Sure, Karl, dance to looney's tune. She knows one form of debate: Deny.

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#28 May 20, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Are you suggesting that he was somewhere other than the White House?
Is this a question like where was Busch following 9/11? National Security protocol and all--to which the public will not ever get an answer?
The problem of the far right Republicans is that they believe some cockamamie conspiracy (like Benghazi was a false flag operation gone awry) that has no basis in fact, but they really WANT to believe it. So, they are just going to keep picking away, dissatisfied with any answers that don't support their belief that SOMETHING BAD must have been going on that is now hidden.
Stands in the way of any honest examination of things that may really have gone wrong, for which there may be solutions requiring legislation.'Cuz they don't wanna legislate.
Have you lost what is left of your friggin mind? Bush was in a classroom reading to children when he was informed about 9-11-01. From there he immediately gave a public statement, boarded Air Force One,(did not go to a golf course) and was constantly in conversation with his staff and others.

Do you think those are 'doctored' films of him?

So where was Obama from 4 PM our time until midnight on 9-11-12? Because he wasn't in the situation room being filmed as he was for the Bin Laden raid and no one will answer that question.

50 years from now a SS agent who was on WH detail that day and night will tell us from his death bed where O was. The WH sure refuses to.

If they would answer the question, it would not be a big deal. I sure want to know.

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Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#29 May 20, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Well, Karl, I will give you a D rather than an F for actually turning something in.
Now go back and read the directions and provide complete answers to the questions asked.
And by the way, is any mention of race by a black person considered to be "playing the race card"? Is the mere recognition of the role of race in any decision-making process (such as who to follow and kill, who to arrest, etc) past or present "playing the race card"?
Any mention of race by a white non-liberal, is automatically labeled "racism".

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#30 May 20, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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Have you lost what is left of your friggin mind? Bush was in a classroom reading to children when he was informed about 9-11-01. From there he immediately gave a public statement, boarded Air Force One,(did not go to a golf course) and was constantly in conversation with his staff and others.
The question is WHERE did AF1 TAKE the President?

Clearly nobody was making any announcements as to his whereabouts--and for good reasons having to do with national security.

Now, with regard to the current President and his location during the Benghazi attack, this has become like the birth certificate issue. We want to see his birth certificate, no, no the long form, no, no the actual record on file in Hawaii and no, no, it's a forgery and on and on and on. Because those folks hold tight to a firm conviction that the President ain't one of us and anything that proves his eligibility just becomes more proof of an ever widening conspiracy.

The folks asking where he was aren't content with an answer, they want film--which if available to them they would certainly reject as being photoshopped.

So, lay your cards on the table. What exactly do think is being covered up, and what proof have you?

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#31 May 20, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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Any mention of race by a white non-liberal, is automatically labeled "racism".
Substantiate that charge, if you can.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#32 May 20, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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The question is WHERE did AF1 TAKE the President?
Clearly nobody was making any announcements as to his whereabouts--and for good reasons having to do with national security.
Now, with regard to the current President and his location during the Benghazi attack, this has become like the birth certificate issue. We want to see his birth certificate, no, no the long form, no, no the actual record on file in Hawaii and no, no, it's a forgery and on and on and on. Because those folks hold tight to a firm conviction that the President ain't one of us and anything that proves his eligibility just becomes more proof of an ever widening conspiracy.
The folks asking where he was aren't content with an answer, they want film--which if available to them they would certainly reject as being photoshopped.
So, lay your cards on the table. What exactly do think is being covered up, and what proof have you?
Your lies are epic. We were told at 10:00 AM that morning that AF1 was headed to Barksdale. Bush made gave a televised statement there. Then they announced he was heading for Offutt...and he did. Then he went back to DC, and I was standing in front of my house in Hilliard with neighbors as AF1 flew overhead, escorted by four fighters.
shaquessa

Akron, OH

#33 May 20, 2013
Obama likes to put targets on peoples backs and then pretend he is all innocent when one of his administration shoots them. It worked for a while, but now his chickens are coming home to roost.
They cannot kill a spook

United States

#34 May 20, 2013
shaquessa wrote:
Obama likes to put targets on peoples backs and then pretend he is all innocent when one of his administration shoots them. It worked for a while, but now his chickens are coming home to roost.
Those chickens had better be bringing watermelon or his shaved silver back will go ape sh1t

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#35 May 20, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Your lies are epic. We were told at 10:00 AM that morning that AF1 was headed to Barksdale. Bush made gave a televised statement there. Then they announced he was heading for Offutt...and he did. Then he went back to DC, and I was standing in front of my house in Hilliard with neighbors as AF1 flew overhead, escorted by four fighters.
Selective memory there, George.

Bush’s actions on September 11 have been the subject of lively debate, mostly on the internet. Details reported that day and in the week after the attacks—both the media reports and accounts given by Bush himself—have changed radically over the past 18 months. Culling hundreds of reports from newspapers, magazines, and the internet has only made finding the “truth” of what happened and when it happened more confusing. In the changed political climate after 9/11, few have dared raise challenging questions about Bush’s actions. A journalist who said Bush was “flying around the country like a scared child, seeking refuge in his mother’s bed after having a nightmare” and another who said Bush “skedaddled” were fired.[Washington Post, 9/29/01 (B)] We should have a concise record of where President Bush was throughout the day the US was attacked, but we do not.

What follows is an attempt to give the most complete account of Bush’s actions—from Florida to Louisiana to Nebraska to Washington, DC.
[excerpted]

Air Force One Takes Off Without Fighter Escort

Air Force One took off at either 9:55 or 9:57 a.m.[CNN, 9/12/01, New York Times, 9/12/01, Telegraph, 12/16/01, CBS, 9/11/02, Washington Post, 9/12/01, Washington Post, 1/27/02, AP, 9/12/01] Communications Director Dan Bartlett remembered,“It was like a rocket. For a good ten minutes, the plane was going almost straight up.”[CBS, 9/11/02]

But, incredibly, Air Force One took off without any military fighter protection. This defies all explanation. Recall that at 9:03 a.m., one of Bush’s security people said,“We’re out of here. Can you get everyone ready?”[Sarasota Herald-Tribune, 9/10/02] Certainly, long before Bush left the elementary school at 9:35 a.m., arrangements would have been made to get fighters to Sarasota as soon as possible. Not only would it have been advisable to protect Air Force One, but it would have been only sensible as another way to protect Bush on the ground from terrorist attack even before he left the school. In Florida, there were two bases said to have fighters on 24-hour alert, capable of getting airborne in approximately five minutes. Homestead Air Station, 185 miles from Sarasota, and Tyndall Air Station, 235 miles from Sarasota; both had the highest readiness status on 9/11. Presumably, as happened at other bases across the country, just after 9:03, base commanders throughout Florida would have immediately begun preparations to get their fighters ready.[Aviation Week and Space Technology, 6/3/02] Fighters left bases on the same alert status and traveled similar distances to reach Washington, DC, well before 10:00, so why were the fighters delayed in Florida?[Aviation Week and Space Technology, 9/9/02]

Military planes should have been over Sarasota by the time Bush left Booker at 9:35 a.m. Yet, as will be described below, more than one hour after Air Force One took off, there were still no fighters protecting it!
http://www.historycommons.org/essay.jsp...

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#36 May 20, 2013
[more excerpts]

Going Nowhere as Threats Increase

Shortly after takeoff, Cheney apparently informed Bush of “a credible threat” to Air Force One.[AP, 9/13/01 (D)] US Representative Adam Putnam “had barely settled into his seat on Air Force One… when he got the news that terrorists apparently had set their sights on the plane.”[Orlando Sentinel, 9/14/01] The Secret Service had received an anonymous call:“Air Force One is next.” The caller allegedly knew the agency’s code words relating to Air Force One procedures. Pilot Colonel Mark Tillman was told of the threat and he asked that an armed guard be stationed at the cockpit door. The Associated Press reported that the threat came “within the same hour” as the Pentagon crash (i.e., before 10:00 a.m., roughly when the plane took off).[AP, 9/13/01 (D)] Details suggest this threat was not the same as the earlier one, but it’s hard to know for sure.

In his comments at Booker, Bush said he was immediately flying back to Washington, but soon after takeoff, he, Cheney and the Secret Service began arguing whether it was safe to fly back to the capital.[Telegraph, 12/16/01] Andrew Card told Bush,“We’ve got to let the dust settle before we go back.”[St. Petersburg Times, 9/8/02] The plane apparently stayed over Sarasota until the argument was settled. Accounts differ, but until about 10:35 a.m.[CBS, 9/11/02 (B), Washington Post, 1/27/02], Air Force One “appeared to be going nowhere. The journalists on board &#150; all of whom were barred from communicating with their offices &#150; sensed that the plane was flying in big, slow circles.”[Telegraph, 12/16/01]

Cheney apparently called Bush again at 10:32 a.m., and told him of another threat to Air Force One. Within minutes, the argument was over, and the plane turned away from Washington and flew to Louisiana instead.

When Does the Fighter Escort Finally Arrive?

Much like the time when Bush left the Booker classroom, the time when fighters finally reached Air Force One is rarely mentioned, and when it is, the facts are highly debatable. We know that when Air Force One took evasive action around 10:55, there was no fighter escort. NORAD commander Major General Larry Arnold later said,“We scrambled available airplanes from Tyndall [note this is near Tallahassee, not Jacksonville, Florida] and then from Ellington in Houston, Texas,” but he doesn’t say when.[Code One Magazine, 1/02] In another account, the first two F-16s to arrive are piloted by Shane Brotherton and Randy Roberts, from the Texas Air National Guard, not from any Florida base.[CBS, 9/11/02] All that’s known for sure is that by 11:30 there were six fighters protecting Air Force One.[Sarasota Magazine, 9/19/01]

It would appear that fighters arrived some time between 11:00 and 11:30. These fighters were supposed to be on 24-hour alert, ready to get into the air in about five minutes. If we assume the fighters flew at a speed of 1,100 mph, the same speed Major Gen. Arnold said fighters used to reach New York City earlier in the day when traveling a comparable distance [MSNBC, 9/23/01 (C), Slate, 1/16/02], the fighters should have reached Sarasota in about 10 minutes. Yet they took around two hours to reach Air Force One from when they were likely first needed, shortly after 9:00.

This clearly goes beyond mere incompetence, yet no newspaper article has ever raised the issue. Was Cheney able to prevent the fighters from reaching Air Force One, perhaps to convince Bush not to return to Washington? If so, why? Did Cheney assume (or know) that Bush was in no real danger? Like so many other questions surrounding 9/11, we do not know
http://www.historycommons.org/essay.jsp...

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#37 May 20, 2013
Seriouslady wrote:
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So where was Obama from 4 PM our time until midnight on 9-11-12? Because he wasn't in the situation room being filmed as he was for the Bin Laden raid and no one will answer that question.
So--is it your impression that the situation room is being filmed 24/7?

Sorry, SL. A bunch of gullibles have been sold on the notion that there was real-time film coming out of Benghazi and that the President either was or should have been tuned in to hordes raping the Ambassador and then torturing and killing him. Because that is what they believe happened.

It doesn't matter that the medical record show he died of smoke inhalation, or that there is film of the Ambassador being taken by civilians to a hospital for treatment. Why should they believe that? They have already swallowed a narrative and any evidence that deviates from it will be dismissed. And the fact that the President doesn't provide evidence to support your narrative you take to be evidence of a cover-up.

And, of course, the opportunity to involve Hillary in the deal just makes it that much juicier to some of the more desparate folks trying to salvage the Republican Party.

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#38 May 20, 2013
shaquessa wrote:
Obama likes to put targets on peoples backs and then pretend he is all innocent when one of his administration shoots them. It worked for a while, but now his chickens are coming home to roost.
Substantiation, please.

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#39 May 20, 2013
They cannot kill a spook wrote:
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Those chickens had better be bringing watermelon or his shaved silver back will go ape sh1t
Karl, I think we can call this a racist statement, can we not?
They cannot kill a spook

United States

#40 May 20, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Karl, I think we can call this a racist statement, can we not?
I am not Karl or Carl.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#41 May 20, 2013
Finally...Reader outs herself as a 9/11 Truther, complete with one source for the location of Bush...a far leftist site founded by a liberal who calls himself a libertarian.
Gee, where have we seen that before?

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Since: May 13

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#42 May 20, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
Finally...Reader outs herself as a 9/11 Truther, complete with one source for the location of Bush...a far leftist site founded by a liberal who calls himself a libertarian.
Gee, where have we seen that before?
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