Oliver Canterberry

New Albany, OH

#293 Apr 22, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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I almost moved to Kuwait last year when my boyfriend took a job there. I researched it, we talked to people who had lived there or were currently living there and while it would have been an adjustment, I don't think I would have minded it. It would have been illegal for me to live with my boyfriend there, but we were sent a booklet of "rules" so-to-speak. Dressing conservatively (according to their standards) probably would have been the biggest issue for me.
Even before oil, Islamic countries were successful at many things. Their countries do have extremes in poverty, but seemingly not any different than many of the countries in Africa.
There are many passages that allude to women being inferior. I'm not going to sit here and swap passages back and forth, but Deuteronomy 22:21 condones women being stoned to death. Now, obviously it's not something most if not all Christians abide by, but it's in the bible all the same. Women in general are the inferior sex in the entire bible.
"Dressing conservatively (according to their standards) probably would have been the biggest issue for me."

So you would have no problem (if you moved to Kuwait) with wearing a burka or hijab?

Its not like you have a choice in a Muslim Nation as you would in a Christian Nation.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#294 Apr 22, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Liberal or not, anyone who espouses his views of anti-Islam is a bigot in my book. What does he have to do with America again?
Simply being a liberal who got mugged.(He actually was)
Oliver Canterberry

New Albany, OH

#295 Apr 22, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/ 2013/04/20/my-take-dont-lump-e vildoers-with-muslims/?hpt=hp_ t4
Racism, xenophobia and anti-religious hatred of any kind goes against the core values of equality and freedom that our country is founded upon, regardless of who is carrying it out or who it is being carried out against.
It is not OK to target innocent people just because they are Muslim. Since Monday, there have already been two hate crimes reported, one targeting an Arab, female doctor in Boston and a second targeting a Bengali man in the Bronx. How is it OK to inflict violence and hate toward individuals simply because of the way they look or their religious affiliation? And even if we are not perpetrating it, how is it OK for us to sit by and let it happen?
Simply put, it's not. We must be better than that.
Does this nation think it can breed snakes in its backyard & expect them to not bite their neighbors?

Wake up silly little girl liberal.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

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#296 Apr 22, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Leftists do not ignore Gosnell. It is discussed in the media. It is discussed amongst us who are pro-choice. Furthermore it is condemned in both accounts.
Again, the scope of the Gosnell case [i.e., murder of children] far exceeds that of Newtown.
The disparities in coverage are obvious to anyone with an ounce of critical thinking skills.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#297 Apr 22, 2013
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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You oppose a Christian theocracy but have no problem with a Muslim theocracy?
You're obviously not reading very well. Try again.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#298 Apr 22, 2013
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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"Dressing conservatively (according to their standards) probably would have been the biggest issue for me."
So you would have no problem (if you moved to Kuwait) with wearing a burka or hijab?
Its not like you have a choice in a Muslim Nation as you would in a Christian Nation.
I would not have had to wear one. Western women are allowed to dress in their regular clothes. The people who hired by boyfriend said that it would be in my best interest if I were to go to now wear tops that exposed my shoulders or midriff and to try to wear shorts or skirts down to the knee. Once within areas like hotels and other Americanized areas, I could honestly wear whatever I wanted. Other rules we were given was to never speak opening about our atheism. Atheists are actually disliked more than Christians. My boyfriend was instructed to never even look at another woman and if he met a man in public and he had his wife with him, he not only could not look at the wife but he could not ask her husband how she was, what her name is or offer his hand in a handshake to the woman. If a Kuwaiti tried to offer us something, we were instructed to turn it down three times, but if there was still an offer after that, we must take it. On the flip side, if we were out in public eating and people sat down next to us to be sociable, it would be very disrespectful not to offer what we had. We were told that their culture is very into sharing. If we were to go into someone's house and outwardly admire something, more than likely the owner would try to give it to us. Lots of rules we were given - none of them involved me wearing a burka.

I don't think it's a restrictive as you think it is. Not to say there aren't areas that are, but many of our friends who lived there said they quite enjoyed it and never had any problems.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#299 Apr 22, 2013
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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Does this nation think it can breed snakes in its backyard & expect them to not bite their neighbors?
Wake up silly little girl liberal.
Sounds like it's you who needs to wake up. This country is breeding angry white young men. Don't hear you rattling off about that.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#300 Apr 22, 2013
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Again, the scope of the Gosnell case [i.e., murder of children] far exceeds that of Newtown.
The disparities in coverage are obvious to anyone with an ounce of critical thinking skills.
And, as I've pointed out before, most experts say the reason the left AND THE RIGHT have not been giving this extreme coverage and to some degree ignoring some of the details is because it is too gruesome, even for conservative news outlets.

I just checked Fox News. Their home page has nothing about Gosnell. I clicked on the U.S. tab. Nothing about Gosnell.

I did find this little gem, however:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2318775825001/poll...

When I typed in Fox News Gosnell, I found one article for today, that was pilfered from a pro-life website.

I found another article talking about a woman who testified seeing babies bodies in toilets trying to get out and how the doctor would snip the back of the babies' necks. I read all of that same material on CNN.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#301 Apr 22, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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And, as I've pointed out before, most experts say the reason the left AND THE RIGHT have not been giving this extreme coverage and to some degree ignoring some of the details is because it is too gruesome, even for conservative news outlets.
I just checked Fox News. Their home page has nothing about Gosnell. I clicked on the U.S. tab. Nothing about Gosnell.
I did find this little gem, however:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2318775825001/poll...
When I typed in Fox News Gosnell, I found one article for today, that was pilfered from a pro-life website.
I found another article talking about a woman who testified seeing babies bodies in toilets trying to get out and how the doctor would snip the back of the babies' necks. I read all of that same material on CNN.
Why do you leftists constantly reference Fox News as if it some kind of conservative standard?
I, and most people I know, don't even watch Fox News.

Babies being drowned alive is more gruesome that 6-year olds being shot to death?
You can't be serious.

The fact remains that the Newtown tragedy received several weeks' worth of headline story coverage...while Gosnell's atrocities have been shuffled to the back page.

There exists an obvious agenda which no one can deny.

“Don't trust the internet!”

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#302 Apr 22, 2013
FKAdukechereader wrote:
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Wow, you little kitty cats have your backs arched and your fur all ruffled up huh.
MEOW
You and FKA Reader sound like a couple of mean girls in high school.
Well hopefully it makes you feel better about yourselves.
You trying to move us into Glitter's territory?

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#303 Apr 22, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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According to Daryl Johnson, who was appointed by the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil and Human rights, since 9/11, there have been five terrorist actions were attributed to 'Muslim extremists' and resulted in the deaths of 17 people.
Since 2008, rightwing extremists killed 16 police officers and wounded 27 others Since 2009, one abortion doctor was murdered and six clinics that provided abortion services were bombed — all presumably by rightwing extremists. Most recently, Johnson noted that a white supremacist killed six worshipers at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin. Numerous anti-government plots have also been foiled by law enforcement.
The West Point Academy Combating Terrorism report shows a 400% increase in rightwing violence since the 90s. I had already posted much of this information earlier in the thread, but I guess it was ignored.
Thank you.

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#304 Apr 22, 2013
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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Does this nation think it can breed snakes in its backyard & expect them to not bite their neighbors?
Wake up silly little girl liberal.
Be careful.

Someone's going to accuse you of believing that we deserved what happened in Boston.

“Don't trust the internet!”

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#305 Apr 22, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Again, the scope of the Gosnell case [i.e., murder of children] far exceeds that of Newtown.
The disparities in coverage are obvious to anyone with an ounce of critical thinking skills.
Well, there you have it.

And the only possible reason for this could be a news black out.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#306 Apr 22, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Well, there you have it.
And the only possible reason for this could be a news black out.
A deliberate decision to minimize coverage.
Obvious to all but those most committed to abortion on demand.
mike

Akron, OH

#307 Apr 22, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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And, as I've pointed out before, most experts say the reason the left AND THE RIGHT have not been giving this extreme coverage and to some degree ignoring some of the details is because it is too gruesome, even for conservative news outlets.
I just checked Fox News. Their home page has nothing about Gosnell. I clicked on the U.S. tab. Nothing about Gosnell.
I did find this little gem, however:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2318775825001/poll...
When I typed in Fox News Gosnell, I found one article for today, that was pilfered from a pro-life website.
I found another article talking about a woman who testified seeing babies bodies in toilets trying to get out and how the doctor would snip the back of the babies' necks. I read all of that same material on CNN.
The Wall Street Journal has had fairly extensive coverage of this case recently - including editorializing about how and why the biased, left media have attempted to sweep it under the rug. There reporting covers not only the "snipping" for which Gosnell is charged, but the device that opens in a womens uterus and cuts the child to pieces. This device was used by Gosnell here and abroad - on a trip to Paikstan (I think)- sponsored by the International Planned Parenthood.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#308 Apr 22, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Why do you leftists constantly reference Fox News as if it some kind of conservative standard?
I, and most people I know, don't even watch Fox News.
Babies being drowned alive is more gruesome that 6-year olds being shot to death?
You can't be serious.
The fact remains that the Newtown tragedy received several weeks' worth of headline story coverage...while Gosnell's atrocities have been shuffled to the back page.
There exists an obvious agenda which no one can deny.
Um, duh, because it is conservative media. Regardless of whether you watch it, it is still the source for news for many conservatives in this country. It's the same for people like you spouting off about msnbc. I don't watch it, but I'm sure one of your kind has made some comment about it being a leftist media outlet.

Yes, babies being drowned is more gruesome. I think most people would agree. Especially after hearing/reading the details.

You're right. That's the truth about Gosnell on almost every media outlet I checked - conservative and "liberal."

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#309 Apr 22, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Thank you.
Thank West Point...lol. Their findings were very illuminating. Talk about how some issues don't get media coverage!

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#310 Apr 22, 2013
mike wrote:
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The Wall Street Journal has had fairly extensive coverage of this case recently - including editorializing about how and why the biased, left media have attempted to sweep it under the rug. There reporting covers not only the "snipping" for which Gosnell is charged, but the device that opens in a womens uterus and cuts the child to pieces. This device was used by Gosnell here and abroad - on a trip to Paikstan (I think)- sponsored by the International Planned Parenthood.
I would expect that from TWJ. It is a respected news source.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#311 Apr 22, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Thank West Point...lol. Their findings were very illuminating. Talk about how some issues don't get media coverage!
This latest report courtesy of the Obama administration received coverage...and appropriate derision.

http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/14301-w...

"...The Washington Times quoted an unnamed Republican congressional staffer as saying that if the Defense Department “is looking for places to cut spending, this junk study is ground zero. Shouldn’t the Combating Terrorism Center be combating radical Islam around the globe instead of perpetuating the left’s myth that right-wingers are terrorists?”

National Review noted that Perliger's study is not the first time the federal government has employed “sloppy work and a broadbrush analysis” in an attempt to smear the conservative movement.“In 2009, liberals in the Department of Homeland Security prepared a report defining 'rightwing extremism in the United States' as including not just hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of federalism or local control,” recalled National Review's John Fund. He added that the DHS report, which was sent to hundreds of local police departments and officials,“bore the ominous title:'Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment” and made the audacious claim that “right wing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African-American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through propaganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning.”

Fund observed that a “casual reader might have concluded that 'attack planning' by said groups is inevitable. But the report is silent on just how the groups will attack, and indeed since 2009 there has been precious little evidence any of them ever did.” He noted that following “much public ridicule, the DHS report vanished from public view as did a similar effort at the same time by the Missouri Highway Patrol, which had to retract its own report linking conservative groups with militia activity and mentioning 2008 presidential candidates Ron Paul and Bob Barr.”

In 2009, William F. Jasper reported in The New American on the eight-page Missouri Highway Patrol embarrassment entitled “The Modern Militia Movement,” noting that it “specifically mentions by name Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas), who ran for president in the 2008 Republican Party primaries, and third-party candidates Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin. The clear implication is that people sporting bumper stickers or literature related to these candidates should be viewed as potential threats that view all law enforcement as 'the enemy.'”

More recently, The New American's Alex Newman reported on a Department of Justice-funded anti-terrorism presentation that equated widely circulated conservative materials — including a popular bumper sticker advocating for a U.S. withdrawal from the United Nations — with right-wing extremism.

That this latest attack on conservative values should come from one of the nation's chief training centers for military leaders is particularly troubling. While the report “is outrageous in and of itself,” commented one conservative observer, writing in the Washington Times,“it speaks of a far worse scenario at the hallowed West Point: the rise of liberalism within the faculty there and their desire to shape the next generation of warrior/patriots into left-of-center thinkers.”

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#312 Apr 22, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Thank West Point...lol. Their findings were very illuminating. Talk about how some issues don't get media coverage!
This latest report courtesy of the Obama administration did, in fact, receive coverage...and the appropriate derision.

From The New American:

"...The Washington Times quoted an unnamed Republican congressional staffer as saying that if the Defense Department “is looking for places to cut spending, this junk study is ground zero. Shouldn’t the Combating Terrorism Center be combating radical Islam around the globe instead of perpetuating the left’s myth that right-wingers are terrorists?”

National Review noted that Perliger's study is not the first time the federal government has employed “sloppy work and a broadbrush analysis” in an attempt to smear the conservative movement.“In 2009, liberals in the Department of Homeland Security prepared a report defining 'rightwing extremism in the United States' as including not just hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of federalism or local control,” recalled National Review's John Fund. He added that the DHS report, which was sent to hundreds of local police departments and officials,“bore the ominous title:'Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment” and made the audacious claim that “right wing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African-American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through propaganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning.”

Fund observed that a “casual reader might have concluded that 'attack planning' by said groups is inevitable. But the report is silent on just how the groups will attack, and indeed since 2009 there has been precious little evidence any of them ever did.” He noted that following “much public ridicule, the DHS report vanished from public view as did a similar effort at the same time by the Missouri Highway Patrol, which had to retract its own report linking conservative groups with militia activity and mentioning 2008 presidential candidates Ron Paul and Bob Barr.”

In 2009, William F. Jasper reported in The New American on the eight-page Missouri Highway Patrol embarrassment entitled “The Modern Militia Movement,” noting that it “specifically mentions by name Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas), who ran for president in the 2008 Republican Party primaries, and third-party candidates Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin. The clear implication is that people sporting bumper stickers or literature related to these candidates should be viewed as potential threats that view all law enforcement as 'the enemy.'”

More recently, The New American's Alex Newman reported on a Department of Justice-funded anti-terrorism presentation that equated widely circulated conservative materials — including a popular bumper sticker advocating for a U.S. withdrawal from the United Nations — with right-wing extremism.

That this latest attack on conservative values should come from one of the nation's chief training centers for military leaders is particularly troubling. While the report “is outrageous in and of itself,” commented one conservative observer, writing in the Washington Times,“it speaks of a far worse scenario at the hallowed West Point: the rise of liberalism within the faculty there and their desire to shape the next generation of warrior/patriots into left-of-center thinkers.”

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