Don't lump evildoers in with Muslims - We must be better than that

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Racism, xenophobia and anti-religious hatred of any kind goes against the core values of equality and freedom that our country is founded upon, regardless of who is carrying it out or who it is being carried out against.

It is not OK to target innocent people just because they are Muslim. Since Monday, there have already been two hate crimes reported, one targeting an Arab, female doctor in Boston and a second targeting a Bengali man in the Bronx. How is it OK to inflict violence and hate toward individuals simply because of the way they look or their religious affiliation? And even if we are not perpetrating it, how is it OK for us to sit by and let it happen?

Simply put, it's not. We must be better than that.

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Tell that to the Richard family of Dorchester.

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Mpnf1979 wrote:
Racism, xenophobia and anti-religious hatred of any kind goes against the core values of equality and freedom that our country is founded upon, regardless of who is carrying it out or who it is being carried out against.
1. It's a standard leftist claim that this country was founded on racism and to protect the rich. We were not founded as the French First Republic, which was decidedly in favor of the reverse.

2. Two attacks, one known to be by a leftist client group, and no death toll, compared to four killed by Islamists, and hundreds injured. The latest in Islamist after Islamist attack.

But continued concern over right wing extremist "Confederates in the Attic", who I've yet to see get violent, even people like me who regularly muse about the coming civil war.

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-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
Tell that to the Richard family of Dorchester.
They probably have enough sense to figure it out themselves.

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They probably have enough sense to figure it out themselves.
Really? Why don't you ask Mr. Richard. His son is dead, his daughter lost a leg and his wife has suffered brain damage.

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1. It's a standard leftist claim that this country was founded on racism and to protect the rich. We were not founded as the French First Republic, which was decidedly in favor of the reverse.
2. Two attacks, one known to be by a leftist client group, and no death toll, compared to four killed by Islamists, and hundreds injured. The latest in Islamist after Islamist attack.
But continued concern over right wing extremist "Confederates in the Attic", who I've yet to see get violent, even people like me who regularly muse about the coming civil war.
1. Who said we were?
2. You seem to be overlooking abortion clinic bombings/shootings (Dr. Tiller et al), white supremacists (James Anderson), militias (Alaska's Peacekeeper Militia) and other events that are considered to be right-wing extremist acts of violence. You could easily argue these people are not indicative of the entire conservative movement. Which is true. Just as the actions of these two young men are not indicative of all Muslims.

West Point's Combating Terrorism Center released a report that showed a 400% increase in right-wing violence.

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publication...

This list isn't free of violent acts committed by groups that identify as right-wing and they qualify as extremists.

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<quoted text>Really? Why don't you ask Mr. Richard. His son is dead, his daughter lost a leg and his wife has suffered brain damage.
He seems like a good man by all accounts. Because these men happen to be Muslims, doesn't mean all Muslims are bad. Yes, many people do have sense enough to realize that the actions of a few are not indicative of entire culture.

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1. Who said we were?
2. You seem to be overlooking abortion clinic bombings/shootings (Dr. Tiller et al), white supremacists (James Anderson), militias (Alaska's Peacekeeper Militia) and other events that are considered to be right-wing extremist acts of violence. You could easily argue these people are not indicative of the entire conservative movement. Which is true. Just as the actions of these two young men are not indicative of all Muslims.
West Point's Combating Terrorism Center released a report that showed a 400% increase in right-wing violence.
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publication...
This list isn't free of violent acts committed by groups that identify as right-wing and they qualify as extremists.
And exactly how many Americans have been killed by your boogeymen in the past 20 years? At last count, it was roughly 178, IF you count McVeigh (168), who may have had Muslim assistance.
In the same time frame, over 3000 Americans have been killed by Muslims in this country.

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Let's not forget how many people have died in the past 2000 years in the name of Christianity. How many have killed in the name of Christianity. Let's not forget that the bible contained graphic imagery of rape, slavery and slaughter. The Abrahamic religions are all guilty of creating division and igniting violence. That's not to say other religions don't have their issues with violence (even Buddhists in Sri Lanka were guilty of violence against Muslims), but these three religions in particular have been the cause of much bloodshed and animosity for centuries.

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They probably have enough sense to figure it out themselves.
Damn, you really are that dense.

"Suicide of a Superpower"

That's you.

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You know as well as I do, that if this was an RWE attack, that you would be screaming up and down on one or more of these

-Theocracy
-Fascism
-KKKrazy glue
-Big Sis save me!!!

Your clients did this attack, the fourth of the Occupation

-Underwear bomber (system worked)
-Maj. Hassan
-Times Square
-Checheans

Not to mention those Occufilth busted trying to take down a bridge in Northeast Ohio.

In contrast we have

-An alleged 'militia' in Michigan which resulted in most charges being dropped

-Some 60 year olds in Georgia busted for trying to make ricin

(While another D was arrested a few days ago who actually made ricin)

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Or like how there was far more fear spread over an abortion doctor shot in Kansas, than an abortion doctor in Pennsylvania killing dozens of born alive babies.

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You idiot progressives keep defending Islam, the real life equivalent of every one of your moronic fears of the true America, the conservative base. Islam is actual misogyny, actual violence, and actually does want to impose theocracy. This isn't fringe people, it's political parties in most of the Islamic world.

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He seems like a good man by all accounts. Because these men happen to be Muslims, doesn't mean all Muslims are bad. Yes, many people do have sense enough to realize that the actions of a few are not indicative of entire culture.
Their entire filthy book is a call to murder. Islam is not compatible with the US Constitution. ALL non-citizen Muslims need to be rounded up and deported.

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http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publication...
This list isn't free of violent acts committed by groups that identify as right-wing and they qualify as extremists.
Old data

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Let's not forget how many people have died in the past 2000 years in the name of Christianity. How many have killed in the name of Christianity. Let's not forget that the bible contained graphic imagery of rape, slavery and slaughter. The Abrahamic religions are all guilty of creating division and igniting violence. That's not to say other religions don't have their issues with violence (even Buddhists in Sri Lanka were guilty of violence against Muslims), but these three religions in particular have been the cause of much bloodshed and animosity for centuries.
Christianity grew up hundreds of years ago. Islam has never left the 7th century. It is a death cult and must be treated as a threat to the security of this, and every other Western nation.

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Let's not forget how many people have died in the past 2000 years in the name of Christianity. How many have killed in the name of Christianity. Let's not forget that the bible contained graphic imagery of rape, slavery and slaughter. The Abrahamic religions are all guilty of creating division and igniting violence. That's not to say other religions don't have their issues with violence (even Buddhists in Sri Lanka were guilty of violence against Muslims), but these three religions in particular have been the cause of much bloodshed and animosity for centuries.
I recall that the most was caused by Communism, presumably the Mongol conquests second.

Neither Abrahamic.

There is one example of large scale Christian violence, and it was self defense against hundreds of years of Islamic aggression.

Funny, I don't see you as a raving anti-Communist

Even Bill Maher just proved "Broken Clock is right twice a day" when he said Islam is uniquely violent.

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<quoted text>And exactly how many Americans have been killed by your boogeymen in the past 20 years? At last count, it was roughly 178, IF you count McVeigh (168), who may have had Muslim assistance.
In the same time frame, over 3000 Americans have been killed by Muslims in this country.
There's the incipient fear with them that we could execute a civil war to reconquer the country if we got ticked enough, and if we actually had cultural regeneration and organized as a racial bloc, that we could still win all the elections.

Muslims can't do that, yet anyways.

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