Xenos Christian Fellowship is a CULT!
Dan

Springboro, OH

#213 Jan 3, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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The social side is just as important, if not more important than the gospel side. This has more to do with the differences in our cultures ... I look at the Bible as a social code and look at the church as being more of a place to meditate and collect your thoughts. This has to do with the Eastern liturgy ... in fact, that's what so many people didn't get about the Latin mass. Reducing something spiritual to words coldens it and cheapens it.
As to the social aspect, it is a very important part of religion. It fosters camraderie. It groups like minded people together AND the thing I like most is being in contact with people in a contest where their natural warmth shines through.
For children, if you believe in the tenets of your faith why wouldn't you want them to have friends and maybe even get married to other kids from similar backgrounds and have a similar value system? Likewise when it comes to sending your kids to Catholic school.
FINALLY, and this is especially true for kids, the social aspect reinforces the fact that there are other people who live your lifestyle. It reinforces and emphasizes it.
I'm a big picture guy. Although there is a lot of wisdom in the bible, at the end of the day it's just words being regurgitated. I could care less what some preacher or priest says. Actions speak louder.
Do you believe in heaven?

The afterlife?

I do, I want to see both my grandmothers again. If that part of the Bible isn't true, to me, it's ultimately worthless.

"If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men." 1 Corinthians 15:19
Michael Thomas

Grove City, OH

#214 Jan 3, 2013
jrock wrote:
Just curious, do any of those of you who are bashing what these high school kids and college kids are doing at a "church" actually know what other things they do? Do any of you know if they actually "live out" the gospel? Have you ever met any of them personally? You all talk about what goes on at Xenos from a distance. Try going there and seeing first hand. Anybody can speculate. Check it out, and quit pontificating.(with the exception of those who've commented who have actually attended) Some of you sound like a bunch of pharisees. You cup is clean on the outside but....well, you know.
I've personally met quite a bit of them. I've been to ministry houses. They're alright people, a little socially awkward but not bad people or anything.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#215 Jan 3, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Do you believe in heaven?
The afterlife?
I do, I want to see both my grandmothers again. If that part of the Bible isn't true, to me, it's ultimately worthless.
"If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men." 1 Corinthians 15:19
I believe in Orthodox and Catholic Christianity, which remains truest to Christianity as it was originally practiced. Everything after that was something some malcontent pulled out of his ass. If fellowship and social activities are good enough for Orthodox and Catholic communities, that's good enough for me. I don't need some nut job telling me I can't have a party at the church because his 8th grade educated interpretation of the Bible says they cant.

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#216 Jan 3, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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The social side is just as important, if not more important than the gospel side. This has more to do with the differences in our cultures ... I look at the Bible as a social code and look at the church as being more of a place to meditate and collect your thoughts. This has to do with the Eastern liturgy ... in fact, that's what so many people didn't get about the Latin mass. Reducing something spiritual to words coldens it and cheapens it.
As to the social aspect, it is a very important part of religion. It fosters camraderie. It groups like minded people together AND the thing I like most is being in contact with people in a contest where their natural warmth shines through.
For children, if you believe in the tenets of your faith why wouldn't you want them to have friends and maybe even get married to other kids from similar backgrounds and have a similar value system? Likewise when it comes to sending your kids to Catholic school.
FINALLY, and this is especially true for kids, the social aspect reinforces the fact that there are other people who live your lifestyle. It reinforces and emphasizes it.
I'm a big picture guy. Although there is a lot of wisdom in the bible, at the end of the day it's just words being regurgitated. I could care less what some preacher or priest says. Actions speak louder.
Partly it's about balance, Bob. Some churches devolve to (or begin as) nothing more than social organizations. I spent some time in a large church where the whole focus of the youth group was bringing in big numbers of kids. Bowling and pizza parties were pretty regular and tame for these folks. Sleepovers, ski trips, big after-prom events and so forth and so on were always being organized. And they saw themselves as being "in competition" with a couple of other large Protestant churches in the area.

There comes a point where you have to ask whether any of these events are any different because the are operated by a church. And are the young people who come to these events involved in anything else that the church is about.

And I do believe that it is this lack of meaningful religious content in far too much of the church of the 1950s that has fed the current decline. Here's a protestant joke for you. How many (insert your favorite demonination's name here) members does it take to change a light bulb? Change? My grandfather donated that light bulb!

When there is a strong religious and spiritual center, the forms are able to adapt to the times and populations. When such forms are bereft of that religious and spiritual center, they become brittle and people cling to them even when they have long lost their ability to meet the need of potential church members.
Dan

Springboro, OH

#217 Jan 3, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe in Orthodox and Catholic Christianity, which remains truest to Christianity as it was originally practiced. Everything after that was something some malcontent pulled out of his ass. If fellowship and social activities are good enough for Orthodox and Catholic communities, that's good enough for me. I don't need some nut job telling me I can't have a party at the church because his 8th grade educated interpretation of the Bible says they cant.
You didn't answer my question. But I guess you really did.
Michael Thomas

Grove City, OH

#218 Jan 3, 2013
I think some members might suffer from codependency. Which makes recruiting and keeping them easier.
Just Saying

Perrysburg, OH

#219 Jan 3, 2013
Scott Risley wrote:
We had someone at the door carding people and two people manning the keg to make sure no underage drinking happened.
Also, just because someone requested a song doesn't mean that we played it.
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Who manned the breathalyzer, Mr. Risley?
Just Saying

Perrysburg, OH

#220 Jan 3, 2013
Big deal, you carded - meanwhile, you will preach that alcoholism is a problem.

http://www.xenos.org/ministries/crossroads/On...
Just Saying

Perrysburg, OH

#221 Jan 4, 2013
"Paul speaks of three general manifestations of God's present judgment. They are not the only manifestations, but they are the most obvious. Many of us have experienced them in our own lives and families, and we are presently experiencing them in our culture.

Read 1:24. When people who are created for a relationship with the invisible God turn away from him, they usually look to visible, tangible experiences to fill up the void left by God. This creates a vacuum of insatiable desires--what Paul calls here "the lusts of their hearts to impurity." "Impurity" here does not refer only to sexual immorality (NIV), but encompasses all inordinate lusts, including other sensual sins (e.g., ALCOHOL; DRUGS; GLUTTONY; SLOTH) and materialistic greed. Do these experiences satisfy and fulfill the human heart? No, they produce enslaving addictions (law of diminishing returns), broken health from those addictions, and increasing emptiness and loneliness, damage to families, etc."

http://www.xenos.org/teachings/...

Actions speak louder than words.
holly

Columbus, OH

#222 Jan 4, 2013
origianlly no it is not Dan. but i also believe we are more effective if we adapt the way the world is now, of coarse only to a certain extent. if the world is contantly changing why cant we? ALOT of churchs here in columbus have new years eve parties and i do not see what is wrong with it all. either these students can go get drunk and who knows what else they would get into! or...
they can have A BEER, dance, play games, and have great conversations about God! who doesnt want that?
ROD CROY Greenfield Ohio wrote:
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would that be the same Irish catholics and Protestants that were murdering each other in Northern Ireland ?
Hassan

Europe

#223 Jan 4, 2013
Islam is the future repent and read the Koran or be on your knees
Hassan

Europe

#224 Jan 4, 2013
One quastion asking please
If God is Jesus dad
who is Joseph is he like a step dad and if so why dod God no bring his son up.
and who is this holy spirt bloke.
Dan

Springboro, OH

#225 Jan 4, 2013
Hassan wrote:
One quastion asking please
If God is Jesus dad
who is Joseph is he like a step dad and if so why dod God no bring his son up.
and who is this holy spirt bloke.
The flaw in your thinking is that you do not realize that Muhammad was illiterate. He saw nativity scenes painted he thought that Mary was God's wife, which Christians do not believe but that is what Muslims think.

Isaac and Jacob were chosen, while Ishmael and Esau were rejected. Esau sold his birthright for a bowl of soup. He was a brute unable to control his passions and unable to appreciate spiritual values much like you.

We will not wear your burkas and hijabs no matter how much help you receive from liberals.
Dan

Springboro, OH

#226 Jan 4, 2013
Hassan wrote:
Islam is the future repent and read the Koran or be on your knees
Islam is evil. We will defeat you just like you were defeated by the Christian Franks lead by Charles Martel at the Battle of Tours. This saved Europe from Muslims. Read your history, Hassan.
Dan

Springboro, OH

#227 Jan 4, 2013
Hassan wrote:
Islam is the future repent and read the Koran or be on your knees
I will not be on my knees to the Koran.

Every knee shall bow and every toque shall confess Jesus Christ.
Hassan

Europe

#228 Jan 4, 2013
Islam is a peacefull and non violent relegion
go in peace brother and may your God be with you.
also your American women would never wear a burka they dont make them that big for obese people.
Dan

Springboro, OH

#229 Jan 4, 2013
Hassan wrote:
Islam is a peacefull and non violent relegion
go in peace brother and may your God be with you.
also your American women would never wear a burka they dont make them that big for obese people.
Islam is peaceful and non-violent?

NOT! A picture is worth a 1000 words.

MUSLIMS CELEBRATE 9/11
Mahat Macoat

Europe

#230 Jan 4, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Islam is peaceful and non-violent?
NOT! A picture is worth a 1000 words.
MUSLIMS CELEBRATE 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =q-9JpRytCx0XX
please but picture of you wife naked
Dan

Springboro, OH

#231 Jan 4, 2013
Mahat Macoat wrote:
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please but picture of you wife naked
You can't handle a free woman. That is why you put women in burkas but at the same time are hard core pornography addicts.
You can't handle freedom or truth.

Muslims Celebrate 9/11
Michael Thomas

Grove City, OH

#232 Jan 4, 2013
holly wrote:
origianlly no it is not Dan. but i also believe we are more effective if we adapt the way the world is now, of coarse only to a certain extent. if the world is contantly changing why cant we? ALOT of churchs here in columbus have new years eve parties and i do not see what is wrong with it all. either these students can go get drunk and who knows what else they would get into! or...
they can have A BEER, dance, play games, and have great conversations about God! who doesnt want that?
<quoted text>
No offence but there wasn't exactly a lot of interest in conversations about God from what I saw

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