Medicaid births on the rise in Ohio

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“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#2 Sep 2, 2013
Including the illegals as well. Left wing subversion...
Reynoldsburger No Onion

Reynoldsburg, OH

#3 Sep 2, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
Including the illegals as well. Left wing subversion...
Including anyone making more than 5,571 posts in 8 months time.
Duke for Mayor

Uniontown, OH

#4 Sep 2, 2013
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
Welfare rats. Any woman having the tax payers pick up the tab for her birth control failures should be sterilized.
Have you read your Constitution today?

Of course not!!!

woof
Enzyte Bob

United States

#5 Sep 2, 2013
In a country which has a president who was a C-student and no resume labeled as a "genius" by the white guilt crowd and where unconstitutional mandates are allowed as taxes, how does any of that matter?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#8 Sep 2, 2013
I have always said that if you apply for federal or state aid, the first requirement should be you have to be fixed so you can't expand your family.

If you are a woman, then you have to get your tubes tied (paid for by the government) before you get one dime. If you're a male who is not financially supporting your child(s) then you don't get a dime either until you've had a vasectomy.

In most cases but not all, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. If we allow bad breeds of people to procreate at twice or more level of working families, how are we ever going to solve poverty?

Our social safety net is such that in many cases, the non-working have it better than the working. Something is seriously wrong with a system like this.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#9 Sep 2, 2013
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
Welfare rats. Any woman having the tax payers pick up the tab for her birth control failures should be sterilized.
I agree since they have proved they are incapable of personal responsibility and expect society to be the provider for them just like this one as an example.

Homeless Lady With 15 Kids Somebody Needs To Pay

Wowwww

Lodi, OH

#10 Sep 3, 2013
Everybody falls on hard times, and unfortunately some are expecting when it happens. People don't expect to lose their jobs especially since they had worked there so long and wasn't givin a notice just hey we're bankrupt have a nice life... Ppl blow through their saving quickly especially when paying for prenatal care. As someone who has fallen on hard times and has ALWAYS paid our taxes and then some, I think we deserve a lil help! Wee never had not one hand out and now that were in this bind, were shamefully asking for help, mind you that we've payed for over the years. We're not welfare rats and I will not be fixed just because we have fallen on hard times as many have. We don't get food stamps or cash assistance. All were getting is my husbands unemployment and health insurance. Now if we were popping out one kids after the other never worked a day in our life and was drawing everything possible then yeah something wouldn't be right but were not. It's not fair that ppl take it out on everyone for the select bums that choose to live high off someone else's hard work. There is ppl out there that truely need the help and they should be freely intitled to it without all this backlash! We've worked hard all our lives and have a home that is paid for and vehicle that is paid for as well, it may not be much to some but we've put everything we had into it and have raised 3 children on our own not one penny of help, not even family help like baby showers. It may not be what we wanted or planned having to ask for help but I'm glad it's there when its needed. I hope you never find yourself in this position! It's truely embarrassing having to ask for a lil bit of help even though we've worked all our lives and have pretty much paid for it...

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#11 Sep 3, 2013
Wowwww wrote:
Everybody falls on hard times, and unfortunately some are expecting when it happens. People don't expect to lose their jobs especially since they had worked there so long and wasn't givin a notice just hey we're bankrupt have a nice life... Ppl blow through their saving quickly especially when paying for prenatal care. As someone who has fallen on hard times and has ALWAYS paid our taxes and then some, I think we deserve a lil help! Wee never had not one hand out and now that were in this bind, were shamefully asking for help, mind you that we've payed for over the years. We're not welfare rats and I will not be fixed just because we have fallen on hard times as many have. We don't get food stamps or cash assistance. All were getting is my husbands unemployment and health insurance. Now if we were popping out one kids after the other never worked a day in our life and was drawing everything possible then yeah something wouldn't be right but were not. It's not fair that ppl take it out on everyone for the select bums that choose to live high off someone else's hard work. There is ppl out there that truely need the help and they should be freely intitled to it without all this backlash! We've worked hard all our lives and have a home that is paid for and vehicle that is paid for as well, it may not be much to some but we've put everything we had into it and have raised 3 children on our own not one penny of help, not even family help like baby showers. It may not be what we wanted or planned having to ask for help but I'm glad it's there when its needed. I hope you never find yourself in this position! It's truely embarrassing having to ask for a lil bit of help even though we've worked all our lives and have pretty much paid for it...
Problem today is alot choose hard times because they know they if they do they can get government welfare assistance and don't have to work for anything and that is the Motto in Detroit "Why work when I can get it free" and I have heard so many times there from blacks there in Detroit area and they cant understand why Detroit is bankrupt.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#12 Sep 3, 2013
Wowwww wrote:
Everybody falls on hard times, and unfortunately some are expecting when it happens. People don't expect to lose their jobs especially since they had worked there so long and wasn't givin a notice just hey we're bankrupt have a nice life... Ppl blow through their saving quickly especially when paying for prenatal care. As someone who has fallen on hard times and has ALWAYS paid our taxes and then some, I think we deserve a lil help! Wee never had not one hand out and now that were in this bind, were shamefully asking for help, mind you that we've payed for over the years. We're not welfare rats and I will not be fixed just because we have fallen on hard times as many have. We don't get food stamps or cash assistance. All were getting is my husbands unemployment and health insurance. Now if we were popping out one kids after the other never worked a day in our life and was drawing everything possible then yeah something wouldn't be right but were not. It's not fair that ppl take it out on everyone for the select bums that choose to live high off someone else's hard work. There is ppl out there that truely need the help and they should be freely intitled to it without all this backlash! We've worked hard all our lives and have a home that is paid for and vehicle that is paid for as well, it may not be much to some but we've put everything we had into it and have raised 3 children on our own not one penny of help, not even family help like baby showers. It may not be what we wanted or planned having to ask for help but I'm glad it's there when its needed. I hope you never find yourself in this position! It's truely embarrassing having to ask for a lil bit of help even though we've worked all our lives and have pretty much paid for it...
You misread.

Unemployment is not welfare because your husbands employer(s) paid into that system the entire time he was working. Indirectly, that comes out of your husbands pay as do all benefits.

When an employer decides to pay your husband $15.00 per hour, it may cost him $25.00 per hour in real cash. He or she starts at $25.00 per hour, and then deducts all what it takes to employ your husband such as medical coverage, holidays, vacation days, workman's compensation, matching Social Security and Medicare deductions. After all that is deducted, that's why your husband is paid $15.00 per hour instead of $25.00.

So rest assured, you are not collecting anything that you didn't pay into.

Currently I am evicting one of my tenants. They are getting $250.00 per month in food stamps for the family of four. They have cable television, high speed internet, cell phones, 3 cats and 1 large dog, but they are on food stamps and can't come up with the rent. Those are the type of people I'm talking about.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#13 Sep 3, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
You misread.
Unemployment is not welfare because your husbands employer(s) paid into that system the entire time he was working. Indirectly, that comes out of your husbands pay as do all benefits.
When an employer decides to pay your husband $15.00 per hour, it may cost him $25.00 per hour in real cash. He or she starts at $25.00 per hour, and then deducts all what it takes to employ your husband such as medical coverage, holidays, vacation days, workman's compensation, matching Social Security and Medicare deductions. After all that is deducted, that's why your husband is paid $15.00 per hour instead of $25.00.
So rest assured, you are not collecting anything that you didn't pay into.
Currently I am evicting one of my tenants. They are getting $250.00 per month in food stamps for the family of four. They have cable television, high speed internet, cell phones, 3 cats and 1 large dog, but they are on food stamps and can't come up with the rent. Those are the type of people I'm talking about.
unemployement benefits are paid by the employer only and again is part of the Social Security Welfare Program created in 1935.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#14 Sep 3, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>unemployement benefits are paid by the employer only and again is part of the Social Security Welfare Program created in 1935.
You missed the point Indy.

What I'm saying is that without any benefits and coverage, your employer would pay you more money. This is common practice especially when employees have spouses where they can get medical coverage from instead of their employer. In most cases, if you opt-out or don't accept medical insurance from your employer, he or she is likely to pay you more in wages.

In fact, I'm in that decision making process right now with my employer. I told him his medical coverage is ship. It doesn't cover anything and the medical facility that I deal with says that if I didn't have any medical insurance at all, they would cover everything from doctors visits to major surgery. But because I have some medical coverage, they stick me with the bill.

My employer is trying to discourage me from leaving our healthcare plan. The more workers on the plan, the cheaper it is for him. Because of the way our tax laws are, he has to calculate what he would increase my pay to if I do leave our healthcare plan.

All expenses an employer has to pay to have an employee are taken out when he or she decides how much they can pay you in salary or wages. So indirectly, you are actually paying for all those benefits and coverages.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#15 Sep 3, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
You missed the point Indy.
What I'm saying is that without any benefits and coverage, your employer would pay you more money. This is common practice especially when employees have spouses where they can get medical coverage from instead of their employer. In most cases, if you opt-out or don't accept medical insurance from your employer, he or she is likely to pay you more in wages.
In fact, I'm in that decision making process right now with my employer. I told him his medical coverage is ship. It doesn't cover anything and the medical facility that I deal with says that if I didn't have any medical insurance at all, they would cover everything from doctors visits to major surgery. But because I have some medical coverage, they stick me with the bill.
My employer is trying to discourage me from leaving our healthcare plan. The more workers on the plan, the cheaper it is for him. Because of the way our tax laws are, he has to calculate what he would increase my pay to if I do leave our healthcare plan.
All expenses an employer has to pay to have an employee are taken out when he or she decides how much they can pay you in salary or wages. So indirectly, you are actually paying for all those benefits and coverages.
I understand now what you are saying and you are right with all the Federal, State & other taxes that the Federal & State Governments have placed on the employers to operate here in US actually has & does affect what employers can pay their employees in wages & benefits and the Federal & State Government taxes are why wages and benefits have decreased here in the US over the years which people dont realize that and it is only going to get worse for employees here in the US as the Federal & State Government debt problems get worse since the Wealth Creators or Employers are going to be forced in paying more in taxes and Wealth Creators or Employers are going to make sure their profit margin are meant before anything else or if they don't they wont be in business no longer besides the Federal & State Governments cut comes before the Employees cut and Employees are the ones that get what is left over & sacrificed which is why wages and benefits are where they are currently at some places and are not no where near what the buying power people used to have besides we know some employers have had to off shore their manufacturing operations to places like China to make a profit to stay in business because it had become too expensive to operate for them here in US with all the Federal & State taxes that are now in play now which is why I am against all these Social Programs that are killing the US Economically.
Patsy

Batesville, AR

#16 Sep 3, 2013
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
Welfare rats. Any woman having the tax payers pick up the tab for her birth control failures should be sterilized.

Unplanned pregnancies can happen to any women. All women should have access to prenatal care regardless of ability to pay. We want healthy babies born into this world.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18 Sep 4, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>I understand now what you are saying and you are right with all the Federal, State & other taxes that the Federal & State Governments have placed on the employers to operate here in US actually has & does affect what employers can pay their employees in wages & benefits and the Federal & State Government taxes are why wages and benefits have decreased here in the US over the years which people dont realize that and it is only going to get worse for employees here in the US as the Federal & State Government debt problems get worse since the Wealth Creators or Employers are going to be forced in paying more in taxes and Wealth Creators or Employers are going to make sure their profit margin are meant before anything else or if they don't they wont be in business no longer besides the Federal & State Governments cut comes before the Employees cut and Employees are the ones that get what is left over & sacrificed which is why wages and benefits are where they are currently at some places and are not no where near what the buying power people used to have besides we know some employers have had to off shore their manufacturing operations to places like China to make a profit to stay in business because it had become too expensive to operate for them here in US with all the Federal & State taxes that are now in play now which is why I am against all these Social Programs that are killing the US Economically.
Exactly. My employer tells us when our medical insurance increases. He does that so we don't question why we haven't had a raise in so long. My last increase brought my monthly premium to $450.00.

I asked my employer if he could just give me a separate check at the end of the month for the $450.00 as a bonus or something. He said he couldn't do that. All he could do is give me a raise, but the raise has to include matching SS and medicare, unemployment insurance and workman's compensation insurance that he pays on my behalf. So out of that $450.00, I may only get $200.00 or less because of all the other taxes he has to pay with this new wage increase. If he just cut me a check for $450.00, he would have to add another $250.00 on top of that to cover all of these contributions.

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