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Fantasy Speaks

Columbus, OH

#265 Jun 4, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
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my fantasy is people like you are deported to your own island to ruin; and save America for moral working people.
Your reality is I will remain right here in the good ol' US of A.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#266 Jun 4, 2012
when the liberal posters are so discredited, they just change the posting name and keep vomiting BS.

they try to hide; but it is not working.
Tora Tora Tora

Columbus, OH

#267 Jun 4, 2012
gokeefe wrote:
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Ever notice how the insanity comes out anonymously?
As if your registering with a nonsense name and using an avatar depicting a cat makes you any less anonymous.
YingYang

Columbus, OH

#268 Jun 4, 2012
Boomer7 wrote:
None of you know me and any time, I can post where I can and will be if you dare to show your punk faces!
Game on!!
You represent the military so well! Hyper-sensitivity to any criticism and hair-trigger response expressable only in terms of violence. I'd think a seasoned combat veteran as you claim to be would have thicker skin and greater self-control. Before posting your location and inviting confrontation, you would be wise to employ what Chinese general Sun Tzu considered as one of the most critical military strategies: know your enemy.

just sayin

Columbus, OH

#269 Jun 4, 2012
YingYang wrote:
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Before posting your location and inviting confrontation, you would be wise to employ what Chinese general Sun Tzu considered as one of the most critical military strategies: know your enemy.
Sun Tzu's "Art of War" is required reading in many business classes & military officer academies and yet a large percentage of enlisted military troops have never even heard of it. Go figure.
it is what it is

Columbus, OH

#270 Jun 4, 2012
just sayin wrote:
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Sun Tzu's "Art of War" is required reading in many business classes & military officer academies and yet a large percentage of enlisted military troops have never even heard of it. Go figure.
Enlisted troops don't need to read because they just follow orders. Clean that latrine. Dig that hole. Move that rock. Run into that bullet. Throw that puppy off a cliff. Sneak into that village at night and shoot those babies as they sleep.

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#271 Jun 4, 2012
Big Johnson wrote:
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Haha, listen to you. Serious goddamn business here!
haha, listen to you. Proud of that little wanker ain't ya?

“Queen of my domain”

Since: May 10

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#272 Jun 4, 2012
just sayin wrote:
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Sun Tzu's "Art of War" is required reading in many business classes & military officer academies and yet a large percentage of enlisted military troops have never even heard of it. Go figure.
True. But more and more enlisted military troops are much more technologically intelligent than you can imagine. Who runs those drones and runs around with those backpacks with the electronic equipment? Not the high ranking officers. The art of warfare is not what it once was for Sun Tzu or even George Patton.

“Hey, Sarge!”

Since: Dec 10

The Milky Way

#273 Jun 4, 2012
gokeefe wrote:
<quoted text>True. But more and more enlisted military troops are much more technologically intelligent than you can imagine. Who runs those drones and runs around with those backpacks with the electronic equipment? Not the high ranking officers. The art of warfare is not what it once was for Sun Tzu or even George Patton.
You rock!
check yer facts

Columbus, OH

#274 Jun 4, 2012
gokeefe wrote:
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Who runs those drones and runs around with those backpacks with the electronic equipment? Not the high ranking officers.
All unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV's) a.k.a. drones are remotely controlled by fully-rated pilots sitting at control consoles instead of in the cockpits. All UAV pilots are officers or civilian equivalent (e.g. gov't contractor, CIA, etc.) but NOT enlisted. If any UAV is operated by a non-rated enlisted troop, it is no larger than a standard radio-controlled toy/model airplane and is used only for aerial surveillance within the operator's local area.
just sayin

Columbus, OH

#275 Jun 4, 2012
gokeefe wrote:
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True. But more and more enlisted military troops are much more technologically intelligent than you can imagine. Who runs those drones and runs around with those backpacks with the electronic equipment? Not the high ranking officers. The art of warfare is not what it once was for Sun Tzu or even George Patton.
While technology, weapons, battlefields, military doctrines, and enemies change, the strategies and tactics associated with the art of warfare remain the same.
anonymous

United States

#276 Jun 5, 2012
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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No, I meant how Rammstein mocks the American "influence" (or as the lyrics at one point say, "controlieren"), especially the jingoism AND the salute! Don't get me wrong, I like our country. But this flag-waving, treating the military like dieties crap is waaaay over the top!
Bob although I rarely agree with you on political topics I really enjoyed the Reimstein videos they are both sarcastic and hilarious. I agree with you about a lot of what you said about memorial day. I served unlike many of the arnchair patriots that put you down and ridicule you. I have seen the horrors of Nam and the aftermath of it but I too am put down by idiots that never served and wrap themselves in the flag because I want to spend my remaining years out of the US. I was drafted.Today at the present time NO ONE is forced to join the military. Most of them are young naive kids who are conned by recruiters so that they get a bonus if they recruit over their quota. These recruiters are worst than used car salesman and promise these young people the moon. My mechanic's friend's son got killed in Iraq and for what??? Halliberton and oil? Another young lady that had a young child and was in the military got killed in Afghanhistan and for what??? A woman with a young child has no business being in the army in the first place. The military I was in was another world than what it is today. Even my stepfather who was a high ranking officer would not recognize it. It is fortunate that the US is not fighting well disciplined and ruthless armies like the German army or the Japanese army from WW2 with today's politically correct army and with idiots like Allen West being promoted to colonel we would all be eating sour kraut and drinking saky.
anonymous

United States

#277 Jun 5, 2012
Reality Speaks wrote:
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who gives a crap what a moron like you thinks?
not me.
I dont give a crap what little small minded provincial mentally challenged "untermenchen" like you think either!
gokeefe

Galloway, OH

#278 Jun 5, 2012
just sayin wrote:
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While technology, weapons, battlefields, military doctrines, and enemies change, the strategies and tactics associated with the art of warfare remain the same.
Not necessarily. Witness the Taliban.

You are referring to well, organized, and well-communicated troops. There is no such thing with the Taliban and yet they managed a very rare attack on our nation, to our complete surprise, using very unusual and undetected tactics (for the most part--hindsight is always 20/20).

The Taliban's strategy IMHO is nowhere near "traditional". How has our use of the traditional approach to the "art of warfare" dealt with this?

Can warfare ever be considered "artful?"

Not a military strategist or logisitician. But I'm not certain that the way we've fought wars regarding strategy have remained the same since the Revolutionary War. Not just men in the field. Not just attacking supply lines. Not just using recon intelligence. We're now looking at disconnected groups with a very similar purpose. Look at it this way: colonial Britain fought Naval wars; we fought land wars and then air wars. Now what are the powers to be that we need to look at?

Just how I see it. No way was minimizing Sun Tzu.(I read the book years ago, probably don't remember most of it.) But the problem is this: technology does change the strategy and the methods. It's nice to sit from our arm chairs and either bash or laud the military, particularly if we don't have the experience of having been in those boots, carrying those weapons.

Point of this is: don't bash the enlisted troops. They have the shi++iest job of them all. Carry out orders? Doesn't that teach one discipline, order, and honor? Just because one enlisted or gets draft in no way diminishes his or her contribution.

Since: Sep 11

Zanesville, OH

#279 Jun 6, 2012
Brighteyes9 wrote:
I wish to take this time to reflect. Have any of you stop to reflect today? Is there someone you have thought about? I have. I think about all of the people that have served in the military and sacrificed for our freedom. The many who have lost their lives to defend our country that are Husbands, Wives, Sons, Daughters, Nephews, Nieces or Best Friends.To often we all get caught up in everyday life. I can only hope that some of you take a minute on this form to tell others who you would honor today.
I am very honored and blessed to be married to Boomer that served our country for 23 years. To you, I thank you. You are a wonderful Husband and Father. I am proud and honored to be your wife.
Thank you to all that have served and continue to fight for our Freedoms.Bless all of you and your families.
I just wanted to say that these two comments that you and Boomer made here were very beautiful. Thank-you for making them.... and I totally agree with you both.

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