The controversy over e-cigarettes | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 20 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jun 13, 2009, titled The controversy over e-cigarettes | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Sara Jacobs, a clothing buyer, can use her electronic cigarette in her office while working.

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dana

Canton, OH

#1 Jan 11, 2010
I smoke about a pack of Marlboro milds a day. i think that this is probably safer considering the tobacco companies use carpet glue to keep the cigarettes from burning so fast. I would rather smoke that and quit than keep spending $5 a day on cigarettes.
Dan

Bowling Green, OH

#2 Jul 26, 2010
I was a smoker until I tried ecigarettes.. I see the negative articles and find it funny that many people in the media would rather see people smoking regular cigarettes than the ecig? Could it have anything to do with the fact that the state will lose tax revenue, meaning the state will be looking in other directions for tax to replace said lost revenue? Could it be that they hate the fact that people wont be paying 6 bucks a pack to smoke but 10 bucks to vape or an entire month? I would like to see more articles about what good these devices have done for people. BTW buying local is way too expensive at over 100 bucks. I bought a premium ecig kit (double the kit listed in this article)for under 40 bucks to my doorstep!
TAX

Hilliard, OH

#4 Sep 22, 2010
I love ecigs. I love smoking where I want, when I want. I haven't had a "real cigarette in a long time and I feel better and I'm not "jonesing". I really love that it's half price. If the government would have backed off smokers and taxing cigarettes for "our own good and trying to control peoples lives, they wouldn't be losing all their tax revenue. I'll enjoy my e cigs until our idiot of a president finds a way to tax them too.
xparte

Bronx, NY

#6 Sep 23, 2010
I wonder how e-cigarettes could possibly be more dangerous than regular cigarettes with their 450 "delicious" additives.
History Buff

Cincinnati, OH

#7 Sep 24, 2010
xparte wrote:
I wonder how e-cigarettes could possibly be more dangerous than regular cigarettes with their 450 "delicious" additives.
You might want to research other things, including your drinking water. You would be shocked that the same chemicals can be found in those things and are WORSE than cigarettes.

FYI: Tobacco is in the same food group as potato, tomato, cauliflower, green pepper, chiliís, egg-plant and other foods such as tea. They ALL contain nicotine. You can buy it at any grocery, eat it in restaurants and school cafeterias.

AND, it is impossible to be allergic to the smoke. There is no proteins in it. It may be an irritant, but not an allergen.
Former US Marine

Aurora, CO

#8 Sep 24, 2010
dana wrote:
I smoke about a pack of Marlboro milds a day. i think that this is probably safer considering the tobacco companies use carpet glue to keep the cigarettes from burning so fast. I would rather smoke that and quit than keep spending $5 a day on cigarettes.
But, the state governments FORCED the tobacco companies to do the carpet glue thing...

Run a google search on: fsc cigarettes.

-population control and "Fire-Safe" cigarettes anyone?....

avaper

Shreveport, LA

#9 Sep 24, 2010
I stopped smoking when i tried an e-cig. I am now a vapor. I feel great. I have my sense of smell and taste back, i can breath, its great. People cannot do anything without fits. You complain when we smoke, now you complain when we vape. There is nothing unsafe in these. PG, nicotine, and sometimes flavoring. I think we should all be more worried about tap water and cup cakes. It is a much healthier alternative and I would now like to take my nicotine without the cancer causing agents. A beer is more dangerous and has more dangers. Enough is enough folks.
xparte

Bronx, NY

#10 Sep 25, 2010
History Buff wrote:
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You might want to research other things, including your drinking water. You would be shocked that the same chemicals can be found in those things and are WORSE than cigarettes.
FYI: Tobacco is in the same food group as potato, tomato, cauliflower, green pepper, chiliís, egg-plant and other foods such as tea. They ALL contain nicotine. You can buy it at any grocery, eat it in restaurants and school cafeterias.
AND, it is impossible to be allergic to the smoke. There is no proteins in it. It may be an irritant, but not an allergen.
Nice try! Yes, some nicotine is present in nightshade vegetables, but the amount is miniscule compared to tobacco. For example, you would have to it over 400 lb (!!!) tomato a day to achieve the effect equal to one cigarette.

"Determining the amount of vegetable consumption suggestive of exposure to cigarette smoke is also more complicated and physiologically difficult than implied by Domino et al. First, it would take an approximately 500-fold increase in the amount of vegetables estimated by Domino et al. to produce exposure equivalent to half a cigarette a day -- e.g., more than 100 kg of tomatoes would have to be consumed in one day. Second, as acknowledged by Domino et al., nicotine exposure would be greatly reduced if vegetable skins, which contain most of the nicotine, were not eaten or if they were cooked in water, thereby extracting the nicotine. Third, ingesting nicotine is not equivalent to inhaling it, since absorption from the stomach is poor and 70 percent of the nicotine entering the circulation is metabolized during its first pass through the liver."

As to presense of chlorine in water to which I think you refer, this is exactly why I filter my drinking water. My filtration system effectively eliminates 99% of all unhealthy chemicals including chlorine. However, there is nothing I can do about obnoxious smokers happily blowing poison my way.

As far as smoke alleries go, you're simply playing a word game, which tobacco industry and their lakeys have turned into an art form. Just because cigarette smoke presumably does not contain proteins, respiratory patients exposed to SHS do suffer from allergy-like symptoms. S*** by any other name.

Then, of course, you forgot to address 450 additives that your average US cigarette contains in addition to tobacco. Oh, well...

Like I said, it's hard to imagine what could be a deadler nicotine delivery device than a cigarette.
xparte

Bronx, NY

#11 Sep 25, 2010
Of course, it's "eat" not "it". And I forgot to attach the name to quatation.

Jack E. Henningfield, Ph.D.
National Institute on Drug Abuse, Baltimore, MD
Sharon

Columbus, OH

#13 Mar 1, 2011
Seems like the government wants to keep people smoking cigarettes so they can tax the crap out of us.
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#14 Mar 1, 2011
History Buff wrote:
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You might want to research other things, including your drinking water. You would be shocked that the same chemicals can be found in those things and are WORSE than cigarettes.
FYI: Tobacco is in the same food group as potato, tomato, cauliflower, green pepper, chiliís, egg-plant and other foods such as tea. They ALL contain nicotine. You can buy it at any grocery, eat it in restaurants and school cafeterias.
AND, it is impossible to be allergic to the smoke. There is no proteins in it. It may be an irritant, but not an allergen.
You're pegging my bogosity meter, bubba.

The water "and other things" comparison thing is just noise. You've no credibility there at all, Monk. If there is any truth to your position at all, it would be that the sum of all other things is more dangerous than cigarettes--or, "cigarettes cause less than 50% of harm". That would get a big "So what?" from any rational person.

FYI, tobacco remains the ONLY significant source of nicotine. That's why e-cigs, nicotine gum, nicotine patches, and all the rest are made using nicotine from tobacco.

It is NOT impossible to be allergic to cigarette smoke. In fact, there are studies showing that prenatal exposure can predispose children to developing just such an allergy.
Hugh Jass

Nashville, TN

#15 Mar 1, 2011
xparte wrote:
I wonder how e-cigarettes could possibly be more dangerous than regular cigarettes with their 450 "delicious" additives.
I wonder why the government objects to shooting people when there are atom bombs around?
Did you consider the vote

Akron, OH

#16 Jul 17, 2011
Listen. Ecigs are the long awaited answer for smokers who want a smarter, safer, cheaper alternative. I accidentally quit cigarettes 2 years ago using ecigs. Imagine that. Be fair people. Apply rules for age restrictions and go as far as taxing them if you wish. But don't stop something that is working for smokers. Regulate them smartly and accept the future of vaping. It dosent have to be a big issue. To each his own as long as it dosent harm another. This is kinda serious folks. You don't want to fix something that isn't broke. A ban is inappropriate. Maybe it satisfies a few "in the heat of the moment" critics but you upset a larger group of committed users who may decide their vote on this very issue. This issue is just like a cigarette .... Don't pick it up if you don't want to deal with the problems you never thought about down the road.
SupaDupaFly

Washington, DC

#17 Jul 17, 2011
I'm not a smoker. I would have no problem sitting next to someone using one of these e-cigarettes. It wouldn't be any different than sitting next to someone getting their caffeine fix by guzzling down a red bull. To each their own big you're not hurting other people, please enjoy!
JASPER TUDOR

Sapulpa, OK

#19 Apr 2, 2014
Once AGAIN, the "do-gooders", who think they have the right to regulate what the rest of us are or are not doing, have raised their UGLY heads. They seem to think that if one does not live one's life according to THEIR lifestyle, they have the right to do our thinking for us.
I went from smoking 3 packs of cigarettes a day (for 45 years) to smoking no cigarettes. I'd tried quitting numerous times and failed until I tried e-cigs. I haven't had a cigarette for over a year now and I am much healthier. I don't wake up in the night coughing anymore. I can take deep breaths now.
DO-GOODERS: Leave me alone!! Mind your own business and let the rest of us live our lives the way we see fit.
Duke for Mayor

Dayton, OH

#20 Apr 2, 2014
With e-cigs, I was able to stop sucking my thumb.....

woof

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#21 Apr 2, 2014
JASPER TUDOR wrote:
Once AGAIN, the "do-gooders", who think they have the right to regulate what the rest of us are or are not doing, have raised their UGLY heads. They seem to think that if one does not live one's life according to THEIR lifestyle, they have the right to do our thinking for us.
A logical extension of forcing the public to pay for the consequences of one's choices is the right of said public to demand to have a say in those choices.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#22 Apr 2, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
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A logical extension of forcing the public to pay for the consequences of one's choices is the right of said public to demand to have a say in those choices.
with all due respect, I could name something about your above statement you would strongly disagree with.

however I won't, and honesty don't mind anyway.

I just want consistency, and you know exactly what I mean.

You accidentally demonstrated flawed inconsistent viewpoints.

you can do that, but don't expect logical thinkers to abide by the discriminatory view point.

Now having said that....you have no issue here, and I would be easy to help you accomplish your right if you were consistent with it across the board.

stay thirsty my friend, and I will buy if you want.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#23 Apr 2, 2014
JASPER TUDOR wrote:
Once AGAIN, the "do-gooders", who think they have the right to regulate what the rest of us are or are not doing, have raised their UGLY heads. They seem to think that if one does not live one's life according to THEIR lifestyle, they have the right to do our thinking for us.
I went from smoking 3 packs of cigarettes a day (for 45 years) to smoking no cigarettes. I'd tried quitting numerous times and failed until I tried e-cigs. I haven't had a cigarette for over a year now and I am much healthier. I don't wake up in the night coughing anymore. I can take deep breaths now.
DO-GOODERS: Leave me alone!! Mind your own business and let the rest of us live our lives the way we see fit.
congratulations....that is no easy feat.

Stay strong, and stay off the weeds.

well done my friend.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#24 Apr 2, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
with all due respect, I could name something about your above statement you would strongly disagree with.
however I won't, and honesty don't mind anyway.
I just want consistency, and you know exactly what I mean.
You accidentally demonstrated flawed inconsistent viewpoints.
you can do that, but don't expect logical thinkers to abide by the discriminatory view point.
Now having said that....you have no issue here, and I would be easy to help you accomplish your right if you were consistent with it across the board.
stay thirsty my friend, and I will buy if you want.
It's a statement of fact, not a statement of approval.

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