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“Zuzu's Petals”

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Eric L wrote:
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So, By inference, does that make you a product of a failed private school or a failed student from either public or private school then? In any case, I am absolutely more educated than you are, especially regarding history. Your argument regarding the nature of the Naqzis proves it. If you want to argue further, why don't you go to the History News Network and argue the stupid "Liberal Fascism" book with experts on Nazi Germany who have earned Phd. degrees. They disagree with you as well. Your views on this subject are akin to the crackpots who argue in favor of young Earth Creationism debating actual scientists on the evolution issue.
I like this one also:

Hitler's views were very Liberal. He wanted big government and government control. He believed the German people could not think for themselves and needed the government to lead the way. This is true with the liberals in America. They believe Amercians are too dumb to do for themselves and that we need government help.

Hitler was not a democrat by any means but his ideas are liberal/socialist/communist all tied into 1.

Basically, he was a nut just like the liberals in the US!
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Eric L wrote:
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So, By inference, does that make you a product of a failed private school or a failed student from either public or private school then? In any case, I am absolutely more educated than you are, especially regarding history. Your argument regarding the nature of the Naqzis proves it. If you want to argue further, why don't you go to the History News Network and argue the stupid "Liberal Fascism" book with experts on Nazi Germany who have earned Phd. degrees. They disagree with you as well. Your views on this subject are akin to the crackpots who argue in favor of young Earth Creationism debating actual scientists on the evolution issue.
what a joke you are.
I call your bet of 1000 PHD's with reality.
you lose.

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Eric L wrote:
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Tell you what, Go to the History News Network and read their reviews of Jonah Goldberg's pathetic "Liberal Fascism" book. I guarantee you that it is only a tiny sample of how stupid most real historians really think his tripe is.
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Zoe Regen wrote:
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Per create debate:
Well, it all depends on the country you are in. Conservatism means preserving the current state of the country. Liberalism is moving away from the current state.
Hitler opposed the ruling parties which tended to be Christian Socialists. National Socialism (shortened by political adversaries to Nazism) was Hitler's descent from the current ruling ideal; so in Germany Hitler was a Liberal.
If you look at it through America's stand point; Liberalism has more to do with Secular Humanist Socialism than it has to do with descent, while Conservatism has more to do with Moral Capitalism than it has to do with preserving ideals. With America being a short term Democratic Republic, the status of government is constantly changing. Since National Socialism encouraged strict government regulation over business and the Nationalization of Banks and health care, Hitler's views, in America, would still be considered closer to Liberalism.
The only Conservative part would be Hitler's encouragement of Patriotism and pride for your Nation. But if you look at Politicians, Democrats call themselves just as Patriotic as Republicans
Actually, Hitler was in keeping with a good many of German traditions like nationalistic militarism, blaming inside forces (Jews) for Germany's loss in World War I (much the same as German nationalists blamed Jews for their defeats at the hands of Napoleon, or their pograms against the Jews in 1096 prior to their role in the first Crusade),racism, anti Semitism, their appeal to the Junkers, rural Germans, German industrialists, union bashing and other characteristics of the German far right. All of these issues were firmly in keeping with the German far right and their main audience were largely conservatives there.
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Reality Speaks wrote:
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what a joke you are.
I call your bet of 1000 PHD's with reality.
you lose.
You have no credible sources for your views, so the joke is on you. I listed your chief source (Jonah Goldberg) and his thin Chick Tract type tome is a joke in the eyes of real historians. I'd bet that you are too scared to argue your quasi libertarian nonsense pseudo history with the History News Network. Go ahead, back up your insults with indisputable facts - I am talking about the big leagues who study this subject instead of moronic talk radio sophistry.

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Eric L wrote:
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blaming inside forces (Jews) for Germany's loss in World War I (much the same as German nationalists blamed Jews for their defeats at the hands of Napoleon, or their pograms against the Jews in 1096 prior to their role in the first Crusade),racism, anti Semitism,
Seems like the nazi movement had something in common with the occupy wall street movement huh.
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Eric L wrote:
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Actually, Hitler was in keeping with a good many of German traditions like nationalistic militarism, blaming inside forces (Jews) for Germany's loss in World War I (much the same as German nationalists blamed Jews for their defeats at the hands of Napoleon, or their pograms against the Jews in 1096 prior to their role in the first Crusade),racism, anti Semitism, their appeal to the Junkers, rural Germans, German industrialists, union bashing and other characteristics of the German far right. All of these issues were firmly in keeping with the German far right and their main audience were largely conservatives there.
that is sorta like blaming me for slavery is it not?

PS: you must have read comic books for your history lessons.

Your adolescent rants of ignorance is not funny.

I suppose Hitler breeding blue eyed blond haired perfect beings was George Bush's fault also.

Maybe Warren Buffet bankrolled Hitler, so he could buy French wineries for 90% discounts?

Maybe Obama is really Hitlers son?

Barbara Bush had sex with George Patton, hence the name George for their illegitimate son?

Hitler was a socialist progressive, just like Obama is. The black community just hopes Obama hates blonde hair as much as they do.
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Heard today that Kenya told Oblamo to keep his views to himself regarding gay marriage as the country does not allow it.

I must admit the man is consistent. We haven't had a good economy in over 5 years, he's imposed his policies whether wanted or not and yet it takes someone from another country to stand up to him.

$100M trip while people go without in this country. Sure this guy cares about....himself.

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Neutral Party wrote:
Heard today that Kenya told Oblamo to keep his views to himself regarding gay marriage as the country does not allow it.
I must admit the man is consistent. We haven't had a good economy in over 5 years, he's imposed his policies whether wanted or not and yet it takes someone from another country to stand up to him.
$100M trip while people go without in this country. Sure this guy cares about....himself.
The list of countries whose leaders have publicly rebuked him is staggering...not since Nixon (there's that uncanny comparison again) has a president been so poorly regarded by allies and adversaries alike.
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-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>The list of countries whose leaders have publicly rebuked him is staggering...not since Nixon (there's that uncanny comparison again) has a president been so poorly regarded by allies and adversaries alike.
where's the list?

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Duke for Mayor wrote:
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where's the list?
woof
Their "list" rests somewhere near the the secret list of serial liar Joe McCarthy (right next to McCarthy's fake military decorations for battles not served and his empty whiskey bottles).
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Eric L wrote:
<quoted text> Their "list" rests somewhere near the the secret list of serial liar Joe McCarthy (right next to McCarthy's fake military decorations for battles not served and his empty whiskey bottles).
Watch what happens when Paco is asked to provide proof of his assertions.

Just watch.

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Reality Speaks wrote:
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that is sorta like blaming me for slavery is it not?
PS: you must have read comic books for your history lessons.
Your adolescent rants of ignorance is not funny.
I suppose Hitler breeding blue eyed blond haired perfect beings was George Bush's fault also.
Maybe Warren Buffet bankrolled Hitler, so he could buy French wineries for 90% discounts?
Maybe Obama is really Hitlers son?
Barbara Bush had sex with George Patton, hence the name George for their illegitimate son?
Hitler was a socialist progressive, just like Obama is. The black community just hopes Obama hates blonde hair as much as they do.
I never realized that you are a German right winger? That is your problem (or maybe one for the OSI if you are old enough), not mine. You still haven't provided any credible historical facts or sources you allegedly have regarding the Nazis, only blather. With your comic book comment, you certainly proved you know nothing about German history in general and can in no way talk about the German historical traditions that led to the Nazis either (there was not one fact wrong in my post regarding German history).
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Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Watch what happens when Paco is asked to provide proof of his assertions.
Just watch.
woof
These far right wing believers have no knowledge of history and can provide no credible sources to back their views up. To compensate, they rely on the conspiracy theories churned out from talk radio fools, Jonah Goldberg, Glenn Beck (he recommended a book penned by Elizabeth Dilling, an Axis enemy agent charged with sedition in 1944 as recommended reading), the John Birch Society, and libertarian think tank funded fake histories (i.e. Thomas E. Woods). It is no wonder why they are so ignorant and why real knowledge is such an alien concept to them. They have been brainwashed.
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I rarely post links, but this is favorite link regarding Joe McCarthy. It provides the only credible truth about him attributable to himself:
http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/cirr...

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Eric L wrote:
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These far right wing believers have no knowledge of history and can provide no credible sources to back their views up. To compensate, they rely on the conspiracy theories churned out from talk radio fools, Jonah Goldberg, Glenn Beck (he recommended a book penned by Elizabeth Dilling, an Axis enemy agent charged with sedition in 1944 as recommended reading), the John Birch Society, and libertarian think tank funded fake histories (i.e. Thomas E. Woods). It is no wonder why they are so ignorant and why real knowledge is such an alien concept to them. They have been brainwashed.
Have you ever read anything by Arthur Herman? His book on McCarthy is an eye-opener.

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Back on-topic:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/pew-obama-less-...

Pew: Obama less 'honest,' more 'incompetent' than Bush

by Paul Bedard

It's word bubble time at Pew Research Center, and that's not really good news for President Obama, especially when compared to the one word Americans used to describe former President George W. Bush as this time.

The word "incompetent" is a popular word for both, though Obama just edged Bush in those references, 27-26.

Another shared word is "honest." Here Bush won with 31 references, Obama just 18.

And "liar" also appears high on both the Bush and Obama list, with Obama collecting the most, 18-13.

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-tip- wrote:
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http://washingtonexaminer.com/pew-obama-less-...
Pew: Obama less 'honest,' more 'incompetent' than Bush
by Paul Bedard
It's word bubble time at Pew Research Center, and that's not really good news for President Obama, especially when compared to the one word Americans used to describe former President George W. Bush as this time.
The word "incompetent" is a popular word for both, though Obama just edged Bush in those references, 27-26.
Another shared word is "honest." Here Bush won with 31 references, Obama just 18.
And "liar" also appears high on both the Bush and Obama list, with Obama collecting the most, 18-13.
Gotta respect Pew.

Bush wasn't incompetent. He was hamstrung by the Dem majority. Unable to re-regulate the banks and lending institutions that Clinton had so smartly deregulated. At least under him we were still a nation to be feared and not scoffed at.

Obama enjoyed that majority for two+ years and still accomplished nothing albeit the totally partisan, dreaded Obamacare. An economic and health care disaster/debacle. To be overseen by the IRS? It would be laughable if not so blantantly biased and dangerous to privacy and freedom.

When is Obama's administration going to produce a budget? Another thing lost in all the scandals and lies. Anything moving downhill will pick up momentum.

Yup, Barry's on a roll and taking the country with him.

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Talk about ON A ROLL... I heard Putin offered to hand over the 29 yr old hacker if obama bows down to Putin and says "N-word PLEASE" 800 times.
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Anyone think Obama is humble enough and loyal enough to America to do it?
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-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever read anything by Arthur Herman? His book on McCarthy is an eye-opener.
No. I have read books on McCarthy by David Oshinsky and Thomas Reeves. It is true that Alger Hiss was a spy, but contrary to one poster's claims, Hiss was no scholar on China but a political appointee with about as much knowledge of China as Dulles and MAcNamara had on Vietnam or Rice had on the Middle East. Any intel that Hiss indirectly gathered would have made no impact on the Chinese Civil War, for Jiang's army had basically disintegrated in effectiveness between the period of Taierzhuang in 1938 and Operation Ichigo in 1944. That fact was likely a major reason why Truman sat on the Wedemeyer report since efforts to improve the Nationalist forces were too little too late due to Jiang's inability to listen to sound advice that might weaken his political and military position. It would've taken too long to train and equip the Nationalist forces as a whole to the standard of Jiang's 1st Army and Y Force divisions, an effort that Jiang avoided since it would've weakened his personal power realtive to the rest of the Nationalist generals (most of whom he felt either emnity or rivalry towards at best).

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