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“Tenured Marxist Radical”

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#38 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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The Turks were among the first to recognize the nation of Israel. In fact, a credible theory says that the current people you Protestants consider Jews are, in fact, Khazar Turks. Knowing how these people operate, I wouldn't be surprised if this is why Turkey has almost always (until recently) been an ally of Israel.
Not a Protestant

Yes, I've heard the theory that Ashenknazi Jews are "Khazars" you were the one who intorduced it to me.

But you are ignoring the Mizrahi Jews in Israel, who are not Turks.

Before the rise of Erdogan, Turkey was led by secular nationalists tied to the military, not Islamists. Ataturk was by all standards an apostate.

The Turks historically ruled the Arabs, and until the end of the USSR, the fight against Israel was more based on Arab nationalism than Islamism.

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#40 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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LOL - the fact remains that Constantinople and that part of the Roman Empire was a conquered territory and only nominally Greco-Roman-Byzantine. If Greeks or Romans made up the largest portion of the population, it would never have fallen.
I'm no history expert, but I've read enough to make one observation which holds true even today: The name of a nation-state, and the official language of that nation-state has nothing to do with the underlying demographic makeup of that nation-state. It may run the gamut from assimilated to people who are actually cognizant of their heritage, but make no mistake. There is no such thing as a completely pure nationality.
Every state has different influences that vary by region. Take Greece for example ... in some parts the people look very Turkish, in other parts they have an Italianesque quality to their appearance, and yet other looks you see are Middle Eastern, Slavic and Albanian.
The Koreans come fairly close, as do the Japanese with only the Ainu minority.

The idea of "Greece" first arose in Ionia, on the other side of the Aegean, no Greeks there today by and large.

The Byzantines fell because the west didn't care about the Orthodox, not because the area wasn't Greek.

It still was mainly greek until the 1920s ethnic cleansing.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

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#41 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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I pass out blame where it is deserved. This time, the blame goes to the Anglosphere and it is well-deserved.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War

Gotta blame the French, and the Austrians for creating the "balance of power" with Metternich.

The Russians could not stand the Western Austrians from controlling the Orthodox Slavs, and they baited the Serbians into starting World War I, then the Russians stabbed them in the back, which they have done ever since.

Yet you still like the Russians, even though their record defending them is weak.

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#43 Mar 20, 2013
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Asia-Minor may have been "Greek", but the rest of Turkey? No way. That's why the Byzantine Empire fell ... it was not homogeneous.
As to the "Greeks" in Asia-Minor, the label is sometimes confused with being a subject of the Greek Patriarchate in Constantinople and has a lot less to do with ethnicity than you might thing. The Greek Patriarchate had a lot of subjects who were Slavic, Arvanite, Aroumanian that were labeled as Greeks but realistically were not.
They were "Greek" from the standpoint of being part of the Greek church, but their actual ethnicities I think would surprise people if they take a closer look.
The Byzantines fell because of Islam, and the failure of the West to defend itself from Islam.

You understand the historical patriarcies, yes?

One is not under Muslim control, even though the title went away in 2006 due to ecumenism with the Orthodox.

Why is it you want to see all of them under Islam?

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#45 Mar 21, 2013
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The EU had a conference call to discuss the situation in Cyprus. Cyprus did not participate.
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BRUSSELS (Reuters)- Euro zone finance officials acknowledged being "in a mess" over Cyprus during a conference call on Wednesday and discussed imposing capital controls to insulate the region from a possible collapse of the Cypriot economy.
In detailed notes of the call seen by Reuters, one official described emotions as running "very high", making it difficult to come up with rational solutions, and referred to "open talk in regards of (Cyprus) leaving the euro zone".
The call was among members of the Eurogroup Working Group, which consists of deputy finance ministers or senior treasury officials from the 17 euro zone countries as well as representatives from the European Central Bank and the European Commission. The group is chaired by Austria's Thomas Wieser.
Cyprus decided not to take part in the call, a decision that several participants described as troubling and reflecting the wider confusion surrounding the island's predicament.
"The (Cypriot) parliament is obviously too emotional and will not decide on anything, if Cyprus does not even feel that they can attend the call it is a big problem for us," the French representative said, according to the notes seen by Reuters.
"We have never seen this."
Countdown to invasion

Krauts v Ruskies

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

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#47 Mar 21, 2013
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Refer to one of my eariler posts. Cyprus is one of those places like Armenia, Georgia or Lebanon. It has no business whatsoever being in the EU.
They are going to get booted and Greece might be next if they don't start acting mature.
Would the people really go for signing over the natgas to Russia?

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

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#48 Mar 21, 2013
And they're off!!

The Cyp-Riots Begin - Live Stream

Local TV station CYBC reports that police in the Cyprus' capital are scuffling with protesters (including employees of Cyprus Popular Bank) outside the nation's parliament:

*CYPRUS POLICE CLASH WITH BANK EMPLOYEES OUTSIDE PARLIAMENT
*CYPRUS SCUFFLES BROADCAST LIVE ON STATE-RUN CYBC

CYBC says more protesters gathering at Parliament House

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-21/cyp-...

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

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#50 Mar 21, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
And they're off!!
The Cyp-Riots Begin - Live Stream
Local TV station CYBC reports that police in the Cyprus' capital are scuffling with protesters (including employees of Cyprus Popular Bank) outside the nation's parliament:
*CYPRUS POLICE CLASH WITH BANK EMPLOYEES OUTSIDE PARLIAMENT
*CYPRUS SCUFFLES BROADCAST LIVE ON STATE-RUN CYBC
CYBC says more protesters gathering at Parliament House
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-21/cyp-...

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#52 Mar 21, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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If they get a market deal, then why not? Eastern Christian countries may not want to be under Russia's thumbnail, but they are also not as smitten with the West as the flag wavers would have you believe. They humor the West in the interest of neighborly relations and fostering economic prosperity, but they know who family is.
I think the real question is whether you would rather be in the family business under a controlling big brother (Russia), or do you sell out to the other side for prosperity but no personal connection?
This is just a wild guess, but I think this affinity for Russia might even extend to some of the Catholic countries that are Slavic such as Croatia and Slovakia. And Poland? Remember, the Russians were their brothers when the Germans were the bad guys. Poland will get closer to Russia again sooner or later.
Russian dominance is preferable to Islamic dominance, but Russia itself is far more Islamic than most European nations.

Eurabia is first and foremost a Russian problem.

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#54 Mar 21, 2013
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Russia is not Islamic. If anything, Russia is a bastardization of the old Roman Empire (Moscow = the "Third Rome"), with outsized Jewish influence thrown in. It is a paranoid government, and probably with good reason.
That's why they end up being a controlling big brother. They are insecure, and they have the history to justify their insecurity.
But make no mistake, there is great affinity for Russia. There is even greater affinity for Western $$$$$ and Euros for the time being, but not to the deep level of respect people have for Russia.
Yes, I know this is jarring to your Cold War eyeballs, but it is true.
Who's side are you on anyway? You see the Jews as behind everyone.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

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#59 Mar 22, 2013
Russia just said "Thanks, but no thanks" to an energy rights bailout.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

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#62 Mar 22, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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I read that earlier this afternoon.
My point is that all the apparent love for the West is strictly for the money. Marriages of convenience.
This is where their hearts lie, tied to common religion and culture.
Russia may be considered the bad guys to Anglos and to Cold Warriors, but a wide swath of the world looks favorably on them.
The last line of that article also hints at that my educated guess about why Russia's interests in the Middle East are always opposite Anglo interests is correct. They are friendly with governments in Syria, Lebanon, etc. because of their ties to the Christian population there, mostly Orthodox.
I still believe it's their need to counter American moves in the region. Geo-political chess maneuvers, not love for distant kin.

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#63 Mar 22, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>I still believe it's their need to counter American moves in the region. Geo-political chess maneuvers, not love for distant kin.
That does explain a lot of it. The Russians are going to lose nearly all of their weapons contracts, Libya represents a huge loss, as Italy will get most of the new contracts.

What gets really confusing is in the Central Asian area. For instance:

Turkic Shia Muslim Azerbaijan dislikes Shia Iran, mainly because Christian Armenia wants to rip off of half of the Azerbaijani territory, and because Iran wants to reconquer Azerbaijan, conquered by the Russians in the 1700s, even though they don't like Russia much either.

That's how the Iranians escape being called Anti Christian, because of Armenia.

If the Russians can peel off Cyprus, they weaken the Turks, the West, Israel (which has improved relations due to the fallout with Turkey) and strengthen Syria, proving themselves as the negotiators rather than those evil Yankee imperialist Crusaders.

Putin also has a big ego.
Oliver Canterberry

New Albany, OH

#64 Mar 22, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Russia is not Islamic. If anything, Russia is a bastardization of the old Roman Empire (Moscow = the "Third Rome"), with outsized Jewish influence thrown in. It is a paranoid government, and probably with good reason.
That's why they end up being a controlling big brother. They are insecure, and they have the history to justify their insecurity.
But make no mistake, there is great affinity for Russia. There is even greater affinity for Western $$$$$ and Euros for the time being, but not to the deep level of respect people have for Russia.
Yes, I know this is jarring to your Cold War eyeballs, but it is true.
Russians problem was the Mongols - not the Jews:

The Mongol Empire invaded Kievan Rus' in the 13th century, destroying numerous cities including Ryazan, Kolomna, Moscow, Vladimir and Kiev.

This campaign, part of the Mongol invasion of Europe, was heralded by the Battle of the Kalka River (1223) which resulted in a Mongol victory over forces of several Rus' principalities. Nevertheless, the Mongols retreated. Batu Khan's full-scale invasion of Rus' occurred from 1237 to 1240; the campaign was ended by a Mongol succession crisis. All Russian states had to submit to Mongol rule and became part of the Golden Horde empire; some of it lasted until 1480.

The invasion, facilitated by the beginning breakup of Kievan Rus' in the 12th century, had incalculable ramifications for the history of Eastern Europe, including the division of the East Slavic people into three separate nations (modern day Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus)[2] and the rise of the Grand Duchy of Moscow.

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#66 Mar 22, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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The Jews were the Vampires that gave the Russians the Bolshevik Revolution and the lost century of Communism that followed. The same things that have gone on in this country from the standpoint of moral decay can be seen in Russia to a very large extent.
The Jews own it.
Lenin was only quarter Jew
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#69 Mar 24, 2013
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Lenin's quarter-Jew makes him about as Christian as half-black Barry Soetoro's 50% caucasian background makes him white.
Lenin was Communist, he could not have been a Christian.

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