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#1 Mar 20, 2013
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/20...

It appears that Putin is going to bail them out.

That means the UK will be removed from its bases.

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Since: Dec 12

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#2 Mar 20, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_ news/2013/03/20/17384301-cypru s-crisis-deepens-bailout-rejec ted-banks-may-not-reopen?lite
It appears that Putin is going to bail them out.
That means the UK will be removed from its bases.
That would be the end of any UK forces aircraft in the Med. No Cyprus, no carriers and Gibraltar can't support them.

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#3 Mar 20, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>That would be the end of any UK forces aircraft in the Med. No Cyprus, no carriers and Gibraltar can't support them.
I expect Gibraltar to be sold off by a future UK government, not to Spain, but to a Gulf Arab sheik.

If Argentina wasn't broke, the Falklanders would have been stabbed in the back years ago.

I read that the goal of Putin is to use Cyprus as a base to have a Russian Med presence and resupply Syria.

Considering that many European leaders openly like the idea of being Russian serfs (Merkel) I doubt they would object, the Anti Americanism is that strong.

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#6 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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And why shouldn't Putin bail them out? They are both Orthodox countries. The only reason Britain is there in the first place is to keep Russia out of what should be its rightful sphere. It would be like Russia occupying Canada.
In effect, this is the the Anglos' same world domination strategy of the 19th century that created the same mess in the Balkans and the middle east.
Is Putin going to kick out the Turks?

I doubt it.

I always find it funny when Erdogan rips Israel for being an occupier and having Jewish settlements, but is occupying Northern Cyprus with Muslim settlements.

Sort of like how Erdogan calls Zionism genocide, but denies the genocide of Armenian Orthodox.

Putin is a proxy for renewed Turk domination.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

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#7 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
Cyprus and Russia are both Orthodox and both are steeped in Eastern Christian culture.
You guys being against Cyprus being close to Russia would be like saying that Italy, Spain and France, or England, Canada and Australia shouldn't have close ties.
You're clueless!
Well, then I'm sure you have no objections to Canada annexing St. Pierre et Miquelon, Greenland and Alaska...

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#9 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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The Turks have as much right to be there as anybody else.
Don't confuse the Turks with the Arabs. The Turks are mostly civilized people. One of my uncle's best friends growing up was a Turk and my dad's family was very close to another Turkish family in their village.
Turkish people are the most loyal friends you can have (or so I'm told). They will put their lives on the line for you. But don't ever cross them.
Greeks are also good people but politically they can be real turds and want to run roughshod over everybody. They are 10 million people, mostly a cobbled together people starting with a core of Greeks but with a heavy mix from Arvanites, Pontics, Greeks, Bulgarians, Aroumanians (Romanized locals) and Macedonians. Also some Italian in that gene pool. There is a Greek language today largely through the efforts of the Greek church and King Otto and the European overlords' fascination with antiquity in the 19th century.
In fact, upon arriving to Athens, newly installed King Otto (a Bavarian - Modern Greece's first monarch) was surprised to find that everybody spoke Albanian.
Greeks are hell bent on proving to the world that they represent a pure race with an uninterrupted ancestry to Socrates. It's because it has been cobbled together that they are so paranoid about anythign involving history.
The Turks are genocidal cowards.

Their President was all gung ho on going to war in Syria until a few artillery rounds send him screaming to the infidel for his Patriot Missiles.

But you always take the Muslim side.

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#11 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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The US has had Alaska for how long? And they still can't wipe out the traces of the indigenous Siberians/Russians and Eskimos. Likewise with the southwest, which retains its Latin American influence.
And what about the entire area stretching from Mobile, AL through Louisiana and St. Louis? Hard to wipe out the French influence.
History is very hard to wipe out.
In fact, I would argue that if Britain and the US hadn't meddled so much in the Balkans and places it doesn't belong like Cyprus, that part of the world would be a lot more peaceful. Russia is the rightful protector of those countries. They like each other, they have the same religion and they understand each other.
Russia should also have a bond with the Slavic countries that are Catholic, but for some reason that didn't work out well. The difference in religion (minimal theologically speaking, but larger from the standpoint of sophistry) may have been politically too much to overcome. Not to mention the mix between the more rational and legalistic thinker of the west versus the more shoot from the hip, paranoid way of doing things in the east.
The Southwest had minimal "Latin American influence" in the 20th century until 1965

Ok, Russia is friendlier to Islam than to Catholics, that's rank stupidity.

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#14 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Again, you talk politics, flag waving, military worshiping, Jew loving. I talk reality from second-hand accounts of my own people living with them side-by-side, and first-hand accounts from the many friends and clients I have.
The Muslims are mostly good people. More similarities with Christians than there are differences, actually. Get to know some Palestinians and see for yourself. Great people.
Yes, there are radicals and they are violent. There are also radical Christians, too.
Bob, pull a Rachel Corrie and go to Gaza for yourself.

Last time I checked, nearly every single suicide bomber is a Muslim. And the vast majority of terrorist attacks since 2001 have been Muslim.

Taqiyya is a solely Muslim concept.

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#15 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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LOL ... When it comes to revisionist history, you and Reader really take the cake. My gf in college was half Italian and half .... indigenous Arizonan ... meaning Mexican/Spaniard. That influence has been there a long time and will probably always be there.
Greece is 100 years into the annexation of Macedonia and there are still Macedonian speakers in NW Greece.
Creole is still the primary language of 300,000 some people in Louisiana.
People don't suddenly start watching Faux News and abandon their personal history.
When Tony Villar was elected Mayor of LA, he was celebrated as the "first Latin Mayor in 100+ years" as there were three before him in the 19th century, and they needed some kind of dumb identity politics reference.

There was more than 100 years of Anglo dominance in CA, not just dominance, but total dominance.

Since 1965, that's gone down the tubes.

A certain Ted Kennedy is to blame.

Greece thinks Macedonia should not exist...

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#18 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Kim Khardashian is Armenian, one of the people the Turks allegedly genocided.
You disgust me, you will truly stop at nothing to defend Islam and hate the Jews.
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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I rest my case.
Furthermore, the Armenians are kind of like the Jews. A little unscrupulous in their business practices. Don't know about their sexuality though. Like I said, if you screw a Turk, you better watch out.
With regard to the Cyprus division, remember the problem was caused by a military junta that tried to put an island with a 20% Turkish minority under the control of Greece.
Imagine what would happen in Canada if the Anglo provinces tried to become part of the United States resulting in a failed coup and a Canadian government in limbo. Do you think Quebec would play along?
Same thing happened in Cyprus.
Cyprus was Greek, it intended to join Greece, but the Turks invaded, and the juntas fell because they didn't strike first.

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#20 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Study who the history of the Latin people who have lived in Colorado for generations, like the last governor ... you will find that many of them trace their history back hundreds of years. Just because you draw a map on a border doesn't mean you quarantine one group of people from the people on the other side of that border.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ritter

I think you mean Ken Salazar, Ritter doesn't appear to be "Latin" at all.

Note how many Latin countries, and how many Anglo countries.

Why are you so willing to be complicit with the progressives in Latinizing one of the hemisphere's two Anglo countries?

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#21 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Greece and Cyprus are in the wrong neighborhood.
Wrong, Turkey is in the wrong area.

Half of Turkey used to be Greek, Istanbul's real name is Constantinople, and it was Greek Byzantium before that.

The Turks came from Central Asia.

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#22 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Again, we are talking about Cyprus. It is you Jew-loving yahoos that always want to make everything about Israel.
Bob, you hate Christians more than the forum leftists do.

Because Israel is the only Middle Eastern nation where the number of Christians increased in the past 50 years.

You think Muslims are better, and that's lunacy.

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#24 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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The West has created 100 years worth of turmoil in this region by doing so.
The Ottomans created 400 years of tension.

And if I recall, it was the Serbs (who I normally defend) that started this in 1914, and who expected a Russian bailout.

The Serbs formed Yugoslavia, and then tried to dominate it.

Marshal Tito was a USSR ally in WWII.

Instead of blaming the West, why are you not blaming Russia for siding with Muslims over the rest of Christendom.

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#25 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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LOL - Don't argue about things you know nothing about little boy! Go back to your history books.
1. The people of Cyprus are Greek, but of a different stock than the Greeks on mainland Greece. They take elements of the people before them.
2. Cyprus is 40 miles from Turkey. There has always been a large Turkish population native to the island. The Turkish "invasion" was to protect this minority.
3. The Greek military junta of 1967–1974 (alternatively "The Regime of the Colonels" and "The Seven Years" a series of right-wing military governments that ruled Greece following the 1967 Greek coup d'état led by a group of colonels on 21 April 1967. Military rule ended in July 1974.
4. The Turkish invasion of Cyprus, launched on 20 July 1974, was a Turkish military invasion in response to a Greek military junta backed coup in Cyprus. It is known in Turkey as the "Cyprus Peace Operation" (Turkish: K&#305;br&#305;s Bar&#305;&#351; Harekāt&#305;), "Cyprus Operation" (K&#305;br&#305;s Harekāt&#305;) or by its Turkish Armed Forces code name Operation Atilla (Atilla Harekāt&#305;).
The coup, ordered by the military Junta in Greece and staged by the Cypriot National Guard[13][14] in conjunction with EOKA-B, deposed the Cypriot president Archbishop Makarios III and installed Nikos Sampson[15] in his place.[16]
More than one quarter of the population of Cyprus was expelled from the occupied northern part of the island where Greek Cypriots constituted 80% of the population. A little over a year later in 1975, there was also a flow of roughly 60,000 Turkish Cypriots from the south to the north after the conflict.[17] The Turkish invasion ended in the partition of Cyprus along the UN-monitored Green Line which still divides Cyprus today. In 1983 the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) declared independence, although Turkey is the only country which recognises it.[18]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_invasion...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_invasion...

As a result of the Turkish invasion, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe stated that the demographic structure of the island has been continuously modified as a result of the deliberate policies of the Turks. Following the occupation of Northern Cyprus, civilian settlers from Turkey began arriving on the island. Despite the lack of consensus on the exact figures, all parties concerned admitted that Turkish nationals began systematically arriving in the northern part of the island in 1975.[92] It was suggested that over 120,000 settlers were brought into Cyprus from mainland Turkey.[92] This was despite Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, which prohibits an occupier from transferring or deporting parts of its own civilian population into an occupied territory.

UN Resolution 1987/19 (1987) of the "Sub-Commission On Prevention Of Discrimination And Protection Of Minorities", which was adopted on 2 September 1987, demanded "the full restoration of all human rights to the whole population of Cyprus, including the freedom of movement, the freedom of settlement and the right to property" and also expressed "its concern also at the policy and practice of the implantation of settlers in the occupied territories of Cyprus which constitute a form of colonialism and attempt to change illegally the demographic structure of Cyprus".

In a report prepared by Mete Hatay on behalf of PRIO, the Oslo peace center, it was estimated that the number of Turkish mainlanders in the north who have been granted the right to vote is 37,000. This figure however excludes mainlanders who are married to Turkish Cypriots or adult children of mainland settlers as well as all minors. The report also estimates the number of Turkish mainlanders who have not been granted the right to vote, whom it labels as "transients", at a further 105,000.[93]

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More Turk hypocrisy

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#29 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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I am an Eastern Christian. We have the strongest claim to being the first Christians and most true to Christianity as it was originally practiced. That is why the Eastern Catholic Churches (both Orthodox and Catholic) control most of the footprint of Church of the Holy Sepulchre, and why the Roman Church controls the smallest portion.
If my church, my church hierarchs and my brothers and sisters in the same faith who live there every day tell me that the Palestinians are the good guys, then I am inclined to believe them over anything a bunch of Protestant Neocons and Faux News tell me.
They have been living it for 2,000 years and they know what the real story is.
They've been under Islam for 1400, the dhimmitude has broken them.

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#30 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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And the Anglos added 100 years to that tension.
Had Russia simply been allowed to forge natural alliances that are rightfully theirs, it would never have been weakened and we never would have had a Bolshevik Revolution or an evil empire. The Balkans would be generally peaceful and civilized right now.
The Anglos are Protestant. They should mind their own territory. They do not belong in the near east.
It was the Catholic Austro-Hungarian Empire that touched off the crisis.

The West left Tito alone.

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#32 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Armenianism
A 19th-century Russian explorer, Vasili Lvovich Velichko, who was active during the period when the Russian tzarism carried out a purposeful anti-Armenian policy,[53] wrote "Armenians are the extreme instance of brachycephaly; their actual racial instinct make them naturally hostile to the State".[54]
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According to a 2012 VTSIOM opinion research, 6% of people in Moscow and 3% in Saint Petersburg were "experiencing feelings of irritation, hostility" toward Armenians. For comparison, 31% had similar feeling toward Caucasians, 23% toward Tajiks, 17% toward Azerbaijanis and 9% toward Georgians in Moscow.[57]
From that poll, animosity is far higher against Muslims.

Caucasian in Russia actually means "Chechnyan", Tajik is another muslim group. Azerbaijanis are Shia but more subdued like the Kurds.

Actually the poll shows that Armenians are well regarded in Russia, and that Russia's leaderships policy towards Islam is not popular amongst Russian citizens.

Admittedly, I don't like the Armenians because they are hostile to Israel and friendly to Iran.

Azerbaijan is actually friendly with Israel.

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#34 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Do you think the people in Cleveland are that much different from the people straight across Lake Erie and right into Canada (approximately 40 miles away)?
Do you think that the people of Cyprus, an Island roughly the size of Puerto Rico, have no influence from Turkey which is 40 miles away?
Bob, you and the Turks hate Jewish settlers in the historical Jewish homeland.

Cyprus is not the Turkish homeland, but they own a third of the island, and Turkey is settling more Muslims to eventually flip Cyprus to Islam.

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#36 Mar 20, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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You can't help but wonder if this wasn't by design to keep the tension level high and whitey in control.
The two world wars dramatically shrunk the white population by eliminating much of future growth.
Don't you usually say it was to keep "Da Jewz" in control

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