Community Leader Says Youth Violence 'A Growing Problem'

May 1, 2012 Full story: NBC4i.com 36

On Sunday evening at the intersection of Reeb Avenue and South 5th Street, police said, 18-year-old Dremahl Anthony allegedly fired shots into a crowd after an argument.

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Oliver Twist

Lewis Center, OH

#1 May 2, 2012
First the headline is wrong; it should be Black Youth Violence a growing problem. The problem is not "growing" it is full grown. 12% of the populations commits over 50% of the murders and occupies (majority) 38% of all prisons / jails.

The nuclear family is a thing of the past in the inner - city, ghetto Black Community. In place of the nuclear family you have the Baby Daddy and Baby Mommas, 95% out of wedlock births and no moral boundaries because Blacks follow the liberal play book that promotes sexual self expression, immediate gratification, zero work ethic and hates the moral boundaries and restraints of the church.

Gangster rap / Hip Hop Culture celebrates violence, misogyny, hate and sexual gratification so any sort of anti-social behavior is acceptable in the ghetto Black Community.

The only thing that will happen in Columbus is the Mayor will turn on the fire hydrants sprinklers on hot days to keep his supporters and voters from killing each other in the Plague of Black on Black violence that infects all cities led by Liberal Black Mayors. This is where Coleman needs to step up and hold Black youth accountable for their actions. This is exactly what he will not do. If anything he will say there are “too many guns on the streets” but he will never complete the thought that “there are too many guns on the streets in the hands of violent, spoiled, entitled Black Youth” that are out of control and a threat whomever they come into contact with.

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#2 May 2, 2012
Oliver Twist wrote:
First the headline is wrong; it should be Black Youth Violence a growing problem. The problem is not "growing" it is full grown. 12% of the populations commits over 50% of the murders and occupies (majority) 38% of all prisons / jails.
The nuclear family is a thing of the past in the inner - city, ghetto Black Community. In place of the nuclear family you have the Baby Daddy and Baby Mommas, 95% out of wedlock births and no moral boundaries because Blacks follow the liberal play book that promotes sexual self expression, immediate gratification, zero work ethic and hates the moral boundaries and restraints of the church.
Gangster rap / Hip Hop Culture celebrates violence, misogyny, hate and sexual gratification so any sort of anti-social behavior is acceptable in the ghetto Black Community.
The only thing that will happen in Columbus is the Mayor will turn on the fire hydrants sprinklers on hot days to keep his supporters and voters from killing each other in the Plague of Black on Black violence that infects all cities led by Liberal Black Mayors. This is where Coleman needs to step up and hold Black youth accountable for their actions. This is exactly what he will not do. If anything he will say there are “too many guns on the streets” but he will never complete the thought that “there are too many guns on the streets in the hands of violent, spoiled, entitled Black Youth” that are out of control and a threat whomever they come into contact with.
Now this is where you sound like Enzyte Bob, misquoting the same statistic in exactly the same way. 12% of the population does not commit 50% of murders. That is statistically false.
50% of murderers are drawn from a demographic that comprises 12% of the population.

You and Bob both make the same reporting error--which then justifies a hatred/mistrust of that entire 12% demographic.

Further, it presents an incomplete picture. Without looking, I can pretty much guarantee that murderers are also drawn disproportionately from the male population, within a certain youngish demographic (somewhere below age 30). If we continue to look we will also discover a higher percentage of mental health issues and learning disabilities along with lower levels of school completion and higher levels of illiteracy. Most likely also a higher level of poverty. Oh, and access to guns.

And all of this is only relevant if it helps us to understand how to have an impact on the problem.

Understanding statistics also helps us to understand that none of the above factors CAUSE murder, however they are highly correlated.
What Bob, and Twisty, want to do, however is slice off a piece of the population with a high correlation, and declare the problem to be THEIR problem. This absolves Bob and Twisty of any social responsibility to consider the impact of all the other correlated factors--a number of which harken back to social/public policy problems.
Spookneverdies

Detroit, MI

#3 May 2, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
Now this is where you sound like Enzyte Bob, misquoting the same statistic in exactly the same way. 12% of the population does not commit 50% of murders. That is statistically false.
50% of murderers are drawn from a demographic that comprises 12% of the population.
You and Bob both make the same reporting error--which then justifies a hatred/mistrust of that entire 12% demographic.
Further, it presents an incomplete picture. Without looking, I can pretty much guarantee that murderers are also drawn disproportionately from the male population, within a certain youngish demographic (somewhere below age 30). If we continue to look we will also discover a higher percentage of mental health issues and learning disabilities along with lower levels of school completion and higher levels of illiteracy. Most likely also a higher level of poverty. Oh, and access to guns.
And all of this is only relevant if it helps us to understand how to have an impact on the problem.
Understanding statistics also helps us to understand that none of the above factors CAUSE murder, however they are highly correlated.
What Bob, and Twisty, want to do, however is slice off a piece of the population with a high correlation, and declare the problem to be THEIR problem. This absolves Bob and Twisty of any social responsibility to consider the impact of all the other correlated factors--a number of which harken back to social/public policy problems.
So using liberal math it goes like this;

A pool of 100 people are put pn and island. 88 of them build shelters and pick fruits and vegetables and hunt. The 12 remaining don't build shelters pick or hunt food but do smoke a plant found on the island. These same 12 steal the food hunted and gathered by the other 88. So in Liberal math the 12 are not worthless trash it is the 88 for not freely giving to the 12 that didn't pick food or hunt?

Did I get that correct. I will check back I have to go read some Doctor Walter E. Williams op eds to clear my head.

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#5 May 2, 2012
Spookneverdies wrote:
<quoted text>
So using liberal math it goes like this;
A pool of 100 people are put pn and island. 88 of them build shelters and pick fruits and vegetables and hunt. The 12 remaining don't build shelters pick or hunt food but do smoke a plant found on the island. These same 12 steal the food hunted and gathered by the other 88. So in Liberal math the 12 are not worthless trash it is the 88 for not freely giving to the 12 that didn't pick food or hunt?
Did I get that correct. I will check back I have to go read some Doctor Walter E. Williams op eds to clear my head.
Nope. That is what EB and Twisty want us to believe.

The reality is more like this. You have 100 people on the island. 88 are women and 12 are men. Of the 100, there are four slackers who don't hunt or gather, but steal the food from the others. Of these four, two are men and two are women.

Given that reality, it would be inaccurate to say that the 12 men are responsible for half of the slacking and theft.
Reggin

Valley City, OH

#6 May 2, 2012
Spookneverdies wrote:
<quoted text>
So using liberal math it goes like this;
A pool of 100 people are put pn and island. 88 of them build shelters and pick fruits and vegetables and hunt. The 12 remaining don't build shelters pick or hunt food but do smoke a plant found on the island. These same 12 steal the food hunted and gathered by the other 88. So in Liberal math the 12 are not worthless trash it is the 88 for not freely giving to the 12 that didn't pick food or hunt?
Did I get that correct. I will check back I have to go read some Doctor Walter E. Williams op eds to clear my head.
By George, I think you have it. Bravo young chap.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#7 May 2, 2012
You forgot to mention that the 12 are sitting at home drinking, doing drugs or making more bastard babies in order to propagate the parasite species.
Enzyte Bob

Columbus, OH

#8 May 2, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
You and Bob both make the same reporting error--which then justifies a hatred/mistrust of that entire 12% demographic.
No, only 85% of them in my opinion. If 50% of murders are committed by them, you can only imagine the number of lesser crimes they are responsible for.
Oliver Twist

Lewis Center, OH

#9 May 2, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
Now this is where you sound like Enzyte Bob, misquoting the same statistic in exactly the same way. 12% of the population does not commit 50% of murders. That is statistically false.
50% of murderers are drawn from a demographic that comprises 12% of the population.
You and Bob both make the same reporting error--which then justifies a hatred/mistrust of that entire 12% demographic.
Further, it presents an incomplete picture. Without looking, I can pretty much guarantee that murderers are also drawn disproportionately from the male population, within a certain youngish demographic (somewhere below age 30). If we continue to look we will also discover a higher percentage of mental health issues and learning disabilities along with lower levels of school completion and higher levels of illiteracy. Most likely also a higher level of poverty. Oh, and access to guns.
And all of this is only relevant if it helps us to understand how to have an impact on the problem.
Understanding statistics also helps us to understand that none of the above factors CAUSE murder, however they are highly correlated.
What Bob, and Twisty, want to do, however is slice off a piece of the population with a high correlation, and declare the problem to be THEIR problem. This absolves Bob and Twisty of any social responsibility to consider the impact of all the other correlated factors--a number of which harken back to social/public policy problems.
How about these numbers:

Based upon the article in the Columbus Dispatch, dated January 1, 2011 written by by Theodore Decker and Jim Woods on Columbus Murder Statistics for 2010, of the 105 victims, 63 were black males and 20 were white males.

Of the 61 known suspects, 48 were black males and seven were white males. In terms of percentage of know suspects, Blacks committed the highest percentage of murders at a staggering 78.6% in Columbus in 2010.

Likewise Blacks were also most often the victims of murder at 60%.

78.6% of the murders in Columbus in 2010 were committed by Blacks (48 of the 61 known suspects).

That's much higher than the percentage I gave nationwide, but it does show that the percentages of murder by Blacks is staggering.

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#10 May 2, 2012
Oliver Twist wrote:
<quoted text>
How about these numbers:
Based upon the article in the Columbus Dispatch, dated January 1, 2011 written by by Theodore Decker and Jim Woods on Columbus Murder Statistics for 2010, of the 105 victims, 63 were black males and 20 were white males.
Of the 61 known suspects, 48 were black males and seven were white males. In terms of percentage of know suspects, Blacks committed the highest percentage of murders at a staggering 78.6% in Columbus in 2010.
Likewise Blacks were also most often the victims of murder at 60%.
78.6% of the murders in Columbus in 2010 were committed by Blacks (48 of the 61 known suspects).
That's much higher than the percentage I gave nationwide, but it does show that the percentages of murder by Blacks is staggering.
The staggering reality is that the overwhelming majority of blacks are neither murderers nor murder victims. While looking for the exact numbers I stumbled on a blog that says it so much better (will post below).

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#11 May 2, 2012
Disclaimer: In no way am I excusing murder! Instead I am using its clear evilness to point out how morally broken white arguments about slavery are:

If blacks in America talked about black-on-white murder the way some whites talk about the much greater interracial crime of white-on-black slavery and racism, it would go something like this:

Go back to Europe! Europe has a lower murder rate. Go back to Europe if you do not like it here.
Whites kill their own. And in far greater numbers: for every white person a black person kills, whites kill at least six. If white people do it, it must be all right. Or at least not all that bad.

Arabs kill white people too! All the hijackers in 9/11 were Arabs. Fact! They killed at least 2,000 whites. Fact! Proof that blacks are not uniquely evil
!
No one in my family has ever murdered a white person. So why are you blaming me? Over 99.9% of blacks in the South have never killed a white person. So why blame blacks? Most blacks have nothing to do with it.

You have never personally experienced it, so get over it! Neither you nor anyone in your family, most likely, has ever been murdered by a black person. Unless it affects you personally, you have no right to be upset or express an opinion. Stop whining. Get on with your life!

Murder is universal. Murder is part of human nature. It is seen in all human societies. Even in ancient times the Romans practised murder.“Et tu, Brute?” It is completely natural. So there is nothing wrong with black people who murder.

It was the times! Blacks kill each other at an even higher rate than they kill whites. Proof that it is part of their culture, that they do not know any better. It is unfair to judge them by white moral standards.

And while we are at it, here are a few more, not modelled on slavery arguments, but on some of those made by whites in the wake of the Trayvon Martin case:

White American culture glorifies violence. Like all those Hollywood films about mobsters, cowboys and Dirty Harry.“Make my day!” Their history books too. Proof that violence and murder are acceptable in the white community. So why is black-on-white murder held up as this terrible thing in the white media? Why are blacks painted as the ones who are pathologically violent by nature? Whites need to look at themselves!

Whites do not protest white-on-white murder. So why the big deal about black-on-white murder?

Whites need to do something about their criminal element - if they want others to kill them less. They need to face up to the pathologies in their own community before they can expect others to see their worth as human beings.

Many black murderers are not pure black. So you cannot blame blacks for that!
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/04/19/what...
Oliver Twist

Lewis Center, OH

#12 May 2, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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The staggering reality is that the overwhelming majority of blacks are neither murderers nor murder victims. While looking for the exact numbers I stumbled on a blog that says it so much better (will post below).
I never said "ALL".

Here you go again with the straw man tactic.

I never said ALL blacks were murderers, I said 78.6% of murderers in Columbus, in 2010, were Black.

Oliver Twist

Lewis Center, OH

#13 May 2, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
Disclaimer: In no way am I excusing murder! Instead I am using its clear evilness to point out how morally broken white arguments about slavery are:
If blacks in America talked about black-on-white murder the way some whites talk about the much greater interracial crime of white-on-black slavery and racism, it would go something like this:
Go back to Europe! Europe has a lower murder rate. Go back to Europe if you do not like it here.
Whites kill their own. And in far greater numbers: for every white person a black person kills, whites kill at least six. If white people do it, it must be all right. Or at least not all that bad.
Arabs kill white people too! All the hijackers in 9/11 were Arabs. Fact! They killed at least 2,000 whites. Fact! Proof that blacks are not uniquely evil
!
No one in my family has ever murdered a white person. So why are you blaming me? Over 99.9% of blacks in the South have never killed a white person. So why blame blacks? Most blacks have nothing to do with it.
You have never personally experienced it, so get over it! Neither you nor anyone in your family, most likely, has ever been murdered by a black person. Unless it affects you personally, you have no right to be upset or express an opinion. Stop whining. Get on with your life!
Murder is universal. Murder is part of human nature. It is seen in all human societies. Even in ancient times the Romans practised murder.“Et tu, Brute?” It is completely natural. So there is nothing wrong with black people who murder.
It was the times! Blacks kill each other at an even higher rate than they kill whites. Proof that it is part of their culture, that they do not know any better. It is unfair to judge them by white moral standards.
And while we are at it, here are a few more, not modelled on slavery arguments, but on some of those made by whites in the wake of the Trayvon Martin case:
White American culture glorifies violence. Like all those Hollywood films about mobsters, cowboys and Dirty Harry.“Make my day!” Their history books too. Proof that violence and murder are acceptable in the white community. So why is black-on-white murder held up as this terrible thing in the white media? Why are blacks painted as the ones who are pathologically violent by nature? Whites need to look at themselves!
Whites do not protest white-on-white murder. So why the big deal about black-on-white murder?
Whites need to do something about their criminal element - if they want others to kill them less. They need to face up to the pathologies in their own community before they can expect others to see their worth as human beings.
Many black murderers are not pure black. So you cannot blame blacks for that!
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/04/19/what...
This answer is crazy!!!!!

Reader "Murder is universal." - Oliver Twist, "no it is not".

Reader, "Murder is part of human nature". Oliver Twist,- "no it is not".

Reader, "It is seen in all human societies".- Oliver Twist "especially Blacks".

Reader, Even in ancient times the Romans practised murder.“Et tu, Brute?”

Oliver Twist - "that was an assassination".

Reader, "It is completely natural" - Oliver Twist "evidently for some Blacks it is".

Reader, So there is nothing wrong with black people who murder.-

Oliver Twist, "Yes there is".

In summation, this answer is long and insane. Murder is not universal! You will go to any lengths to protect Black Murderers.

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#14 May 2, 2012
Oliver Twist wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said "ALL".
Here you go again with the straw man tactic.
I never said ALL blacks were murderers, I said 78.6% of murderers in Columbus, in 2010, were Black.
Twisty, the reality remains that only a VERY small percentage of blacks are either murderers or murder victims.

Now, we can argue that any death is too many and that we should be concern--and I will gladly go there with you.

But, when it comes to the statement that youth violence is a black problem, well, sorry, the justification falls short.

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#15 May 2, 2012
Oliver Twist wrote:
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This answer is crazy!!!!!
Reader "Murder is universal." - Oliver Twist, "no it is not".
Reader, "Murder is part of human nature". Oliver Twist,- "no it is not".
Reader, "It is seen in all human societies".- Oliver Twist "especially Blacks".
Reader, Even in ancient times the Romans practised murder.“Et tu, Brute?”
Oliver Twist - "that was an assassination".
Reader, "It is completely natural" - Oliver Twist "evidently for some Blacks it is".
Reader, So there is nothing wrong with black people who murder.-
Oliver Twist, "Yes there is".
In summation, this answer is long and insane. Murder is not universal! You will go to any lengths to protect Black Murderers.
Twisty--you really have to learn to read more carefully. What I pasted in there (and indicated in the preceding post, along the link at the bottom) was an essay from a blog.

It was recounting the way that it would sound if blacks talked about white on black murder in the way that whites talk about black on white murder.

Yes--the statements are ludicrous and easy to poke holes in.

That was the point. Get it?

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#16 May 2, 2012
sorry--that was if blacks talked about black-on-white murder the way some whites talk about white-on-black slavery and racism
Spookneverdies

Detroit, MI

#17 May 2, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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Nope. That is what EB and Twisty want us to believe.
The reality is more like this. You have 100 people on the island. 88 are women and 12 are men. Of the 100, there are four slackers who don't hunt or gather, but steal the food from the others. Of these four, two are men and two are women.
Given that reality, it would be inaccurate to say that the 12 men are responsible for half of the slacking and theft.
I see liberal math also means introducing variables into a simple set intersection. No wonder liberals are so bad at Mathematics and any applied Mathematics like physics or statistical analysis.

Since: Apr 12

Marengo, OH

#18 May 2, 2012
Spookneverdies wrote:
<quoted text>
I see liberal math also means introducing variables into a simple set intersection. No wonder liberals are so bad at Mathematics and any applied Mathematics like physics or statistical analysis.
When they do cheat their way into the physical sciences, they lie...just look at "Climate Change."

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#19 May 2, 2012
Spookneverdies wrote:
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I see liberal math also means introducing variables into a simple set intersection. No wonder liberals are so bad at Mathematics and any applied Mathematics like physics or statistical analysis.
If you understand anything at all about statistics then you would realize that the statement that 12% of the population commits 55% of the murders has a specific meaning. And that specific meaning would require that 12% of the population are murderers. This is a false statement.

Since: Apr 12

Marengo, OH

#20 May 2, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
If you understand anything at all about statistics then you would realize that the statement that 12% of the population commits 55% of the murders has a specific meaning. And that specific meaning would require that 12% of the population are murderers. This is a false statement.
But you have no problem with Spook's argument if it involves Catholic priest molestation or phony Klan membership numbers.
Spookneverdies

Detroit, MI

#21 May 2, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
If you understand anything at all about statistics then you would realize that the statement that 12% of the population commits 55% of the murders has a specific meaning. And that specific meaning would require that 12% of the population are murderers. This is a false statement.
No matter how many times you claim 2 plus 2 is 7 because if not it is racist to mark Leon's paper with an red x indicating a wrong answer. There is an old saying " figures don't lie but liars do figure"
Liars, democrats, commies, socialists,liberals, and progressives are and can be used interchangably.

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