we know your name

Westerville, OH

#201 Aug 9, 2011
Reader wrote:
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You would, Mr. Chappelle.
thankfully I just read your shortest post ever. You are normally a bloated windbag --typical fat mouth liberal.
Reader

Columbus, OH

#202 Aug 9, 2011
we know your name wrote:
<quoted text> thankfully I just read your shortest post ever. You are normally a bloated windbag --typical fat mouth liberal.
And a very nice evening to you, too!
we know your name

United States

#203 Aug 9, 2011
Reader wrote:
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And a very nice evening to you, too!
why thank you, Reader! I do believe the temperature is dropping. Should be ideal for a stroll. Care to join me?
1Enzyte Bob

Denver, CO

#204 Aug 9, 2011
Tea Farty wrote:
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I guess everyone needs a hobby.
Aren't we all juvenille delinquents at heart?
1Enzyte Bob

Denver, CO

#205 Aug 9, 2011
we know your name wrote:
<quoted text> why thank you, Reader! I do believe the temperature is dropping. Should be ideal for a stroll. Care to join me?
Using someone's name on an anonymous forum or even alluding to knowing someone's identity is an intimidation tactic. It is not cool.
we know your name

Westerville, OH

#206 Aug 9, 2011
Cmon Bob -- you're not dealing with a retard. I read your posts on here and you and Jefferson were on here sticking it to Reader that you guys saw her real name. I personally did not see it because I quit hanging out on the CD site when it cut off the Topix feed. If anyone was not being cool it was you.
1Enzyte Bob

Denver, CO

#207 Aug 9, 2011
we know your name wrote:
Cmon Bob -- you're not dealing with a retard. I read your posts on here and you and Jefferson were on here sticking it to Reader that you guys saw her real name. I personally did not see it because I quit hanging out on the CD site when it cut off the Topix feed. If anyone was not being cool it was you.
We have something of an understanding of sorts with Reader so I don't think she takes it personally from us. I made a mistake in cutting and pasting something once, but otherwise I have refrained from using her name. I do worry about others who use names to intimidate people, though. This forum is already a shell of its former self and it doesn't make sense to run people off who might want to come back. Intimidation runs people off. Get my drift?
1Enzyte Bob

Denver, CO

#208 Aug 9, 2011
P.S. She said the less said about it, the better and I have been trying to respect that. Again, my aim is not to chastise you, but to make sure we don't run off people who want to participate. It's boring without libs to argue with.
we know your name

United States

#209 Aug 9, 2011
1Enzyte Bob wrote:
P.S. She said the less said about it, the better and I have been trying to respect that. Again, my aim is not to chastise you, but to make sure we don't run off people who want to participate. It's boring without libs to argue with.
understand your meaning.

Since: Apr 10

Westerville, OH

#210 Aug 11, 2011
I was just reading through some of these boards on the recent Dispatch developments, and was thinking...

Many of the cries of censorship and the like are kind of unfounded.
The Dispatch is not a government agency (regardless of how they might try to act like one) and therefore don't really have to worry about "free speech".
It's their web page, their comment board, their ball.
If you want a chance to say whatever you want, it makes sense to tell you to get your own web page and message board or blog and you can put whatever you want on there.

The cries for free speech while riding on the coat tails of someone paying the bills smack of cried for entitlement.

This should get folks nice and fired up.

Since: Apr 10

Westerville, OH

#211 Aug 11, 2011
PotStirrer wrote:
This should get folks nice and fired up.
Or not.
the way I saw it

Reynoldsburg, OH

#212 Aug 11, 2011
PotStirrer wrote:
<quoted text>
Or not.
The "Report Abuse" button was used by many to get posts they disagreed with deleted. A concerted effort by anonymous trolls, libs, gays, PETANS, Repubs, Buckeye fans or whomever could make posts disappear and also make it look like the Dispatch had an agenda and would not tolerate differing points of view. Remember, there was no Name, E-mail, ID and Complaint form to be filled out. All you had to do was hit Report Abuse and click a second report prompt to flag a post. Enough flags and a post would be yanked or the thread moved from Dispatch Topix to Columbus, Ohio Topix. Lots of people never understood that the thread was moved and saw it as heavy-handed censorship by the Dispatch.
lurker

Columbus, OH

#213 Aug 11, 2011
the way I saw it wrote:
<quoted text>
The "Report Abuse" button was used by many to get posts they disagreed with deleted. A concerted effort by anonymous trolls, libs, gays, PETANS, Repubs, Buckeye fans or whomever could make posts disappear and also make it look like the Dispatch had an agenda and would not tolerate differing points of view. Remember, there was no Name, E-mail, ID and Complaint form to be filled out. All you had to do was hit Report Abuse and click a second report prompt to flag a post. Enough flags and a post would be yanked or the thread moved from Dispatch Topix to Columbus, Ohio Topix. Lots of people never understood that the thread was moved and saw it as heavy-handed censorship by the Dispatch.
It would be interesting to know the specific process, but one would hope that there was some consideration of the posting policy (and I know that there was one somewhere), rather than just being voted down by a number of clicks.

Personally I saw WAAAAAAAY too many really ugly and ignorant remarks of a racial nature--and too many by folks who were really "drive-bys," that is folks who did not maintain any consistency to their username over time.

Certainly there will always be some subjectivity to this stuff--but there were some times when I really appreciated the moderation.
1Enzyte Bob

Denver, CO

#214 Aug 11, 2011
the way I saw it wrote:
<quoted text>
The "Report Abuse" button was used by many to get posts they disagreed with deleted. A concerted effort by anonymous trolls, libs, gays, PETANS, Repubs, Buckeye fans or whomever could make posts disappear and also make it look like the Dispatch had an agenda and would not tolerate differing points of view. Remember, there was no Name, E-mail, ID and Complaint form to be filled out. All you had to do was hit Report Abuse and click a second report prompt to flag a post. Enough flags and a post would be yanked or the thread moved from Dispatch Topix to Columbus, Ohio Topix. Lots of people never understood that the thread was moved and saw it as heavy-handed censorship by the Dispatch.
I agree that in many cases the system was being gamed, but I disagree that the Dispatch wasn't responsible. First, if they know people are gaming the system it is their responsibility to make sure proper controls are in place. Second, someone had to physically delete my previous accounts, IP Address and even my unregistered "Enzyte Bob". That didn't just happen on its own.
the way I saw it

Reynoldsburg, OH

#215 Aug 11, 2011
1Enzyte Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree that in many cases the system was being gamed, but I disagree that the Dispatch wasn't responsible. First, if they know people are gaming the system it is their responsibility to make sure proper controls are in place. Second, someone had to physically delete my previous accounts, IP Address and even my unregistered "Enzyte Bob". That didn't just happen on its own.
Topix has its own paid staff of moderators. Customer sets up parameters of allowable behavior and mods see that the rules are followed or the user is banned. Not that hard to do. If an ongoing trouble maker is identified it might be as simple as setting up a few "IF/THEN" conditions and the system does the work itself.
Burgermeister

United States

#216 Aug 19, 2011
Kosmik wrote:
<quoted text>
So you think your points are more valid when no one is around to disprove them with facts? Talk about wanting dissent stifled.
Have fun by yourself on the Dispatch site.
No, but more people will see my comments now, so they'll have more impact.

What's stopping people from contradicting me? Oh yeah, they don't want to give their name.
Common Sence

Westerville, OH

#217 Aug 20, 2011
Burgermeister wrote:
<quoted text>
No, but more people will see my comments now, so they'll have more impact.
What's stopping people from contradicting me? Oh yeah, they don't want to give their name.
Thomas Paine's name has been used many times on this forum for reasons I feel are valid, if noit justifiable. There are people in this world who disagree vehemently with others and want to destroy those with whom they disagree. And that's why saul Alinsky's name has been used in these forums, too.
Anonymous

Columbus, OH

#218 Aug 20, 2011
Burgermeister wrote:
<quoted text>
No, but more people will see my comments now, so they'll have more impact.
What's stopping people from contradicting me? Oh yeah, they don't want to give their name.
I stopped using the Dispatch postings when 1) they published my name without my knowledge or permission--immediately changed to an invented name; and 2) did not immediately respond to a glitch that has resulted in giving out email addresses at random to others when they log in.

Since I stopped posting, however, I have noticed that someone is regularly posting with my username and invented name.

Over time I have often sent "letters to the editor" for publication using my real name. These have always been vetted by calling to confirm my identity and that I wrote the letter. Frankly, in such public letters I exercise a greater level of care about such things as the impact on family members and my employer.

The current Dispatch posting system does nothing to prevent anonymous posting, it simply gathers sufficient information to be able to block anyone who poses a problem. And in so doing it has carelessly put honest posters at risk.
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#219 Aug 20, 2011
Burgermeister wrote:
What's stopping people from contradicting me? Oh yeah, they don't want to give their name.
Well Mr. Burgermeister (interesting real name by the way) nothing is preventing me from registering under a fake name. On the other hand, I do not feel like providing an email address to be spammed and sold. The Dispatch has run off the many to placate the few. That is an unusual business model, good luck with that.
change names often

Westerville, OH

#220 Aug 20, 2011
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
I stopped using the Dispatch postings when 1) they published my name without my knowledge or permission--immediately changed to an invented name; and 2) did not immediately respond to a glitch that has resulted in giving out email addresses at random to others when they log in.
Since I stopped posting, however, I have noticed that someone is regularly posting with my username and invented name.
Over time I have often sent "letters to the editor" for publication using my real name. These have always been vetted by calling to confirm my identity and that I wrote the letter. Frankly, in such public letters I exercise a greater level of care about such things as the impact on family members and my employer.
The current Dispatch posting system does nothing to prevent anonymous posting, it simply gathers sufficient information to be able to block anyone who poses a problem. And in so doing it has carelessly put honest posters at risk.
^^^ nicely stated position. And that is why the aforementioned Mr. Paine has been mentioned. There was great risk publishing under real identities back in the time of tyranny and suppression of free speech. And that has come full circle with this current political climate. The media are in the bag and most reasonable people realize that -- hell even the raging libs realize it. But it's their pig getting fed so what do they care?

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