$20k Govt Router installed in WV Library

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Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#1 Feb 27, 2013
Why a one-room West Virginia library runs a $20,000 Cisco router

Cisco, West Virginia wasted $5M on enterprise-class gear.

Marmet, West Virginia is a town of 1,500 people living in a thin ribbon along the banks of the Kanawha River just below Charleston. The town's public library is only open Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays. It's housed in a small building the size of a trailer, which the state of West Virginia describes as an "extremely small facility with only one Internet connection." Which is why it's such a surprise to learn the Marmet Public Library runs this connection through a $15,000 to $20,000 Cisco 3945 router intended for "mid-size to large deployments," according to Cisco.

In an absolutely scathing report (PDF) just released by the state's legislative auditor, West Virginia officials are accused of overspending at least $5 million of federal money on such routers, installed indiscriminately in both large institutions and one-room libraries across the state. The routers were purchased without ever asking the state's libraries, cops, and schools what they needed. And when distributed, the expensive routers were passed out without much apparent care. The small town of Clay received seven of them to serve a total population of 491 people... and all seven routers were installed within only .44 miles of each other at a total cost of more than $100,000.

In total,$24 million was spent on the routers through a not-very-open bidding process under which non-Cisco router manufacturers such as Juniper and Alcatel-Lucent were not "given notice or any opportunity to bid." As for Cisco, which helped put the massive package together, the legislative auditor concluded that the company "had a moral responsibility to propose a plan which reasonably complied with Cisco's own engineering standards" but that instead "Cisco representatives showed a wanton indifference to the interests of the public in recommending using $24 million of public funds to purchase 1,164 Cisco model 3945 branch routers."
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#2 Feb 27, 2013
Great picture of the Marmet Library at this link:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/02/wh...
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#3 Feb 27, 2013
LOL!

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The state of West Virginia has now weighed in with its own report on the routers, and it makes for mind-boggling reading. Consider, for instance, how routers were purchased for the state police. When the West Virginia State Police purchased their own routers a few years earlier, they chose Cisco model 2xxx machines at a cost of only $5,000 or so apiece, with only a single Cisco 3xxx model purchased for the largest deployment. In 2010, when the state received its grant money, no one asked the State Police what they wanted or needed; indeed, the police were "never contacted" at all by the Grant Implementation Team.(This was a widespread problem; the report notes no capacity or user needs surveys were ever done before the money was spent). Instead, the team simply ordered 77 Cisco 3945 routers at a cost of $20,661 apiece—that's one $20,000 router for every 13.7 state police employees—and sent them off to the police.(Each router can handle several hundred concurrent users.)

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#4 Feb 27, 2013
West Virginia, all Ds all the time.

But with Manchin's support for gun bans, none will be left standing by next year.
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#5 Feb 27, 2013
DOUBLE LOL!!!

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Ironically, the routers can't even be used for VoIP in some key cases. The state police already have a VoIP-based phone system, but the new 3945 series routers did not come with "the appropriate Cisco VoIP modules" to work with the system. The state now has to spend another $84,768 to purchase those modules; without them, the state police can't use the routers, only two of which are actually installed and operating.(For those keeping score at home, this means that 75 $20,000 routers are depreciating in a state police warehouse somewhere in West Virginia.)

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#6 Feb 27, 2013
According to Reader's "methodology," these fiscal abuses will not qualify as "waste."
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#7 Feb 27, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
West Virginia, all Ds all the time.
But with Manchin's support for gun bans, none will be left standing by next year.
Manchin's your boy, Timmy.

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#8 Feb 27, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Manchin's your boy, Timmy.
Projecting?

Is it not you who praises "ethnic Catholics" like

Andrew Cuomo
The Kennedys
Fatboy

And actually Manchin himself for that matter
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#10 Feb 27, 2013
-tip- wrote:
According to Reader's "methodology," these fiscal abuses will not qualify as "waste."
Not to mention the fact that buying a $99 router for the trailer-sized library instead of the $20,000 router that was originally budgeted would qualify as a "draconian cut" to essential government services "putting the most vulnerable members of our society at risk."
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#11 Feb 27, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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Projecting?
Is it not you who praises "ethnic Catholics" like
Andrew Cuomo
The Kennedys
Fatboy
And actually Manchin himself for that matter
Those guys are too far down the liberal chain to be my models of ethnic Catholics. My worldview is more consistent with Frank Lausche (Slovenian Catholic who marched to his own drummer) or Jack Sensenbrenner (Columbus mayor - German Catholic; ditto about marching to his own drummer).
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#12 Feb 27, 2013
^^^ P.S. I still don't have a problem with Fatboy.

Has anybody taken a look at the CPAC speaker list? Mitt Romney? Jeb Bush? LOL! And then you have all the RINO's in waiting like Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, and Paul Ryan?

These are the people who are going to fire me up and get excited about the Republican Party? LOL

The only person who even barely qualifies as being a member of my team is Sarah Palin, and she's only for show. No substance there.

LOL

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#13 Feb 27, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Those guys are too far down the liberal chain to be my models of ethnic Catholics. My worldview is more consistent with Frank Lausche (Slovenian Catholic who marched to his own drummer) or Jack Sensenbrenner (Columbus mayor - German Catholic; ditto about marching to his own drummer).
Fatboy does the same thing

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#14 Feb 27, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
^^^ P.S. I still don't have a problem with Fatboy.
Has anybody taken a look at the CPAC speaker list? Mitt Romney? Jeb Bush? LOL! And then you have all the RINO's in waiting like Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, and Paul Ryan?
These are the people who are going to fire me up and get excited about the Republican Party? LOL
The only person who even barely qualifies as being a member of my team is Sarah Palin, and she's only for show. No substance there.
LOL
You said that you were a RINO who liked socialism in your own neighborhood.

As far as I knew, your favorite pol was Rick Snyder.

Who is a WASP
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#15 Feb 27, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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Fatboy does the same thing
Fatboy has at least cut a budget. What have any of the rest of those guys done? Deadbeat Rubio can't even cough up $8,000 to pay off one of his personal debts.

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#16 Feb 27, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Fatboy has at least cut a budget. What have any of the rest of those guys done? Deadbeat Rubio can't even cough up $8,000 to pay off one of his personal debts.
Not a fan of the Designated Amnesty Shiller, Fatboy

-Ripped the GOP House Speaker and the GOP majority
-Gave Obama a virtual endorsement
-Gave Mitt the cold shoulder
-Cancelled the tunnel, even when billions were already spent
-Demanded more gun bans, New Jersey is already one of the strictest

Cuomo has cut a budget as well, Fatboy says he agrees 98% with him...
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#18 Feb 27, 2013
You cannot kill a Spook wrote:
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Fatboy Christie and Cuomo should hang from the same tree.
Come on! You're a results kind of guy.

Would you rather have:

1. A "moderate" that has actually cut back spending to 2008 levels (Christie), and doesn't back down from whiny government employees; or

2. People who talk a good game but keep spending out the wazoo (most Republicans).

They have been talking about this sh^t since we were in high school. 30 years is long enough to sh^t or get off the pot.

What about that idiot Ryan? 40 years to balance a budget and people couldn't stop whining about that?

I AM SICK OF THESE IDIOTS FLAPPING THEIR GUMS. I WANT SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING!!!

I would rather have a "liberal" like Fatboy who is actually going to have the guts to do something about the budget and spending and the economy, than another one of these idiots whose only qualifications are that they say cute things on Fox News.

It's time to light a fire underneath their asses! ALL OF THEM!

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#19 Feb 27, 2013
Enzyte Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Come on! You're a results kind of guy.
Would you rather have:
1. A "moderate" that has actually cut back spending to 2008 levels (Christie), and doesn't back down from whiny government employees; or
2. People who talk a good game but keep spending out the wazoo (most Republicans).
They have been talking about this sh^t since we were in high school. 30 years is long enough to sh^t or get off the pot.
What about that idiot Ryan? 40 years to balance a budget and people couldn't stop whining about that?
I AM SICK OF THESE IDIOTS FLAPPING THEIR GUMS. I WANT SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING!!!
I would rather have a "liberal" like Fatboy who is actually going to have the guts to do something about the budget and spending and the economy, than another one of these idiots whose only qualifications are that they say cute things on Fox News.
It's time to light a fire underneath their asses! ALL OF THEM!
http://grossman4nj.com/2013/02/25/just-got-ch...

Check out what the GAO said about his canning the tunnel, unlike the slow trains here, that actually made sense.

In 2009, the Rs didn't take control of the state legislature, where the real power is. Again in 2011, they won no more seats.

Due to the electoral system here, a Beppe Grillo style movement is near impossible.

Supposedly I read that he's your kind of guy, hates the Jews a lot.
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#21 Feb 27, 2013
You cannot kill a Spook wrote:
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The problem is if anti constitutionalists like christie hold enough offices then how long before they rule like Stalin Mao or Pol Pot? Sure Christie cut some spending now nut would he as president of an unarmed nation? I doubt it.
Listen, Jersey is pretty densely populated and has places like Newark and Camden. There is an argument that you don't want people in such close confines all being armed. To the extent the constitution allows reasonable limitations, that's how the Consititution has been interpreted. I don't know if any of this is right or wrong, but it seems like these places already have a lot of guns, legal or not, and they aren't places most people want to be.

In Fairfield County gun laws would be stupid, though.

I think if you are a true Reagan Republican, you would allow these things to be decided at the community level because what's appropriate for New Jersey isn't appropriate for Ohio

Remember last year or two when Arizona passed its immigration law and all the yahoos in Ohio were screaming for the same law here? We don't have the same problems here ... nobody is swimming across Lake Erie to get into America. No need for it here. Arizona - different story.

But I agree with the right to bear arms generally.

And I also like someone with common sense and enough stones to do the right thing.

We could do worse than Christie when it comes to getting our finances in order. At least he won't back down when challenged.

Once the economy is humming again, then we can go back to arguing over the stupid things people argue about like abortions and whatnot.

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#23 Feb 27, 2013
You cannot kill a Spook wrote:
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Taking handouts and praising obama is not acceptable for a future president no more than having Charles Manson as Chief Justice.
Before the primary starts picking a fat commie as the sefacto nominee is just wrong. When the constituion is blatantly ignore, hell even sh1t on picking someone who supports doing so is wrong no matter what budgets are like.
Besides Christie nor Ny candidate as yet has had the backbone to call for the elimination of social programs or to call for a declaration of war against Mexico and all Central American countries even though they have declared war on the US.
Fatboy likes his rice & beans.

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#24 Feb 27, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Fatboy likes his rice & beans.
He loves his eggs and bacon...

Done "Buddy the elf" style!

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