Working at Kroger: The Need for EBT Reform

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Working at Kroger: The Need for EBT Reform
Published on July 26, 2012 by Justin in Featured, Virginia

Working at a large chain grocery store, you get used to dealing with EBT, WIC and other forms of welfare. Sometimes it is painfully obvious the person does need some sort of help. Other times, too often I believe, someone abusing their government benefits just makes you cringe and doubt the entire system. I find myself echoing an article from a former Wal-Mart employee at College Conservative, who says itís time for serious welfare reform. Here are some of my ideas for reform and why I believe it:

Make EBT Recipients Ineligible for Large Lottery PayoutsThere were several customers at Kroger who loved to play the lottery, to the tune of $10-$20 every single day, minimum. Iím not talking instant scratch-off tickets where they might recoup $10 of their invested cash, Iím talking the big games. Pick 3, Pick 4, MegaMillions and Powerball were their games of choice. Meanwhile, as they were dumping upwards of $300 into a loserís game a month, they were buying their food with EBT. It would be too much of a problem to force retailers to look up EBT status (if even possible) for small wins, but the large lottery payouts that require winners to go to the state offices should be off limits for EBT recipients. Maybe that would disincentivize their gambling on welfare.

Force Alcohol Purchases into Separate TransactionsI know we canít ban EBT recipients from drinking, nor should we as Iím sure many spend small amounts on alcohol and use it in moderation. In stores like Kroger which would automatically deduct EBT-eligible items when they swiped their card and leave a remaining balance however, I think alcohol should be forced into a separate transaction. I canít tell you how many times someone with an EBT card and $20 in cash would put back the milk, eggs or bread because the balance was getting low on their EBT and then still buy their beer. If forced into a completely separate transaction, maybe theyíd rethink buying the beer later instead.

Make High-Dollar Food Items Ineligible for EBTFor stores with computer systems as complex as Kroger or Wal-Mart have, this wouldnít be that difficult. Make high-end items like lobster, steaks above a certain dollar amount and other items ineligible for EBT usage. Candy should also be off the list. We do this effectively with WIC (the assistance program for pregnant women and small children) so I believe it could be done with EBT. WIC is so strict that you can only buy unsliced cheese, not the more expensive individually wrapped slices. Iím not saying EBT standards need to be that high, but you need to draw a line somewhere.

I donít know how else, aside from taking away the ease in which EBT recipients abuse their money and situations, we can combat this problem. We obviously canít have a government monitor review all purchases, but canít we reform a few things at a time and try to put an end to the abuse? If people need help, I get why weíre trying to give it to them, but they should at least grateful enough to their fellow citizens that they end their boozing and gambling while weíre paying for their food.
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You sound like a nutcase. Obviously if someone wins a big payout from the lottery they wont need EBT. Once their income tax is filed, they would become ineligible for EBT. You sound like one of those loonies who also want Welfare Recipients to be drug tested. Hey I have a great idea for you. You should try to RULE THE WORLD !!! HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!
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YOU ARE CRAZY wrote:
You sound like a nutcase. Obviously if someone wins a big payout from the lottery they wont need EBT. Once their income tax is filed, they would become ineligible for EBT. You sound like one of those loonies who also want Welfare Recipients to be drug tested. Hey I have a great idea for you. You should try to RULE THE WORLD !!! HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!
I agree no testing, and eliminate all EBT, WIC, Medicaid, Medicare etc to all welfare programs should be ended.
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Aug 17, 2012
 
YOU ARE CRAZY wrote:
You sound like a nutcase. Obviously if someone wins a big payout from the lottery they wont need EBT. Once their income tax is filed, they would become ineligible for EBT. You sound like one of those loonies who also want Welfare Recipients to be drug tested. Hey I have a great idea for you. You should try to RULE THE WORLD !!! HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!
Yeah, these shining beacons of liberal hope lose the millions as fast as they win it. WOW! So much for that supposed change for the better.
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The main problem with these programs are the people behind the office cubicle, and the managers that hired the bleeding heart cubicle thumpers in the first place. When they see a "oppressed brotha" or a "illegal criminal on its plight for a better future" they always have liberal guilt ridden erections, and give the scumbags instant approval. The other half consists of government senators, and representatives who double dip into the designated social security only funds to buy their bridges to nowhere, and solyndra scams.

This problem works itself both directions.
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Welfare should FOAD

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I'm fine with reform. Candy and lobster? Yup, take them off the list.

As for gambling and alcoholism, those addictions are not going to be addressed by the programs concerned here. You would have to created a new law and enforcement apparatus to have people inform on the situation, and then have them prosecuted and ajudicated. You don't want to pay for that. You really don't want reform. You want all the programs concerned here abolished.

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George, not sure where this blogger is getting his or her facts. It would be interesting to really learn if purchases via EBT cards are really tracked (somehow, I doubt it).

I can't speak to the candy and junk food issue. But pretty sure you can't buy liquor with food stamps in a lot of place. I know at one time, the Kroger in Galloway actually had a sign in its liquor store that stated clearly one couldn't purchase liquor with the EBT card (don't know if it's still there, they're remodeling).

I've also been being a welfare queen in the Giant Eagle in Hilliard before attempting to buy wine and beer with a purchase, it was rejected. Don't know if it was because it exceeded the limit or an ineligible purchase was detected. I hope it was the latter. If you're on foodstamps, you're there because you can't feed your family and it's a pretty damn poor choice to buy alcohol if you can't feed your kids.

It seems part of this is up to how the business rings up its purchases (if they do indeed take an EBT card).

On the "factual side"--here is the official client brochure of the ODJS: https://www.ebt.acs-inc.com/pdf/OH_Client_Bro...

Oddly, it doesn't provide guidelines on the types of purchases one can make.

On the humorous side: http://www.vice.com/read/food-stamp-beer-revi... -- makes me wonder about the insanity of the far left.

I can't wait to get my big red lips and flame icons. Bring it on!

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^^been behind a welfare queen^^^

Darn auto-spell checker fixers !

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The Lord of Life wrote:
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You sound like one of those loonies who also want Welfare Recipients to be drug tested.
And what's wrong with that, being drug tested before getting Welfare? If your on illegal drugs why should you get Welfare?
You're contradictory. Damning someone for possibly believing drug testing welfare recipients is a good idea in the first sentence and then in the next sentence, you're supporting drug testing?

What are you ingesting or smoking today?

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The Lord of Life wrote:
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YES, I'd support all jobs to enforce Drug Testing of all Employees too. Let's get America back on top where it should be! There are plenty of unemployed people who could use any type of a job to help ends meet instead of those on drugs who only work to support their drug, booze, smoking habits.
Agreed. I just read that as contradictory, unsure of what you meant.

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The Lord of Life wrote:
What are you ingesting or smoking today?
I wish it was Fresh Air, instead of breathing in your Filth!
My filth? I'm not sure I said anything disgusting, pornographic, or that I even have bad breath. Heck, I didn't even eat garlic yet today.

Rope? I give it out in lengths long enough for weirdos to hang themselves....
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Jan 29, 2013
 
Yup my mom.works at kroger too and oftens tells me about them buying big party trays and pumpkins and gourds to decorate their homes in the fall.
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Jan 29, 2013
 
YOU ARE CRAZY wrote:
You sound like a nutcase. Obviously if someone wins a big payout from the lottery they wont need EBT. Once their income tax is filed, they would become ineligible for EBT. You sound like one of those loonies who also want Welfare Recipients to be drug tested. Hey I have a great idea for you. You should try to RULE THE WORLD !!! HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!
Untrue. Those programs are based on income not total assets. Hence why the woman in Michigan won the jackpot and still collected welfare and food stamps.

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