Scouting’s suicide

[Pam]

VADoc wrote:

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Sorry I am an Eagle Scout and far from gay.
I don't mind the Boy Scouts letting gays into scouting or allowing gay scout masters.
Scouts already have rules in place to prevent any molestation. Scouts and scout masters never sleep in the same tents or quarters.
I think the more scouts the better. If more kids were involved in scouting we'd have less teenagers gang banging, doing drugs, and causing trouble.
The problem is many Mormons are scouts. The Mormon church has threatened in the past that if gays are allowed in scouting that they will pull out of Boy Scouts and start their own organization.

After what closet gay Jerry Sandusky did to little boys in the Penn State showers it is foolish to expose little boys to this sort of behvior.

Just say no before we have more Jerry Sandusky's preying on children.

[FKA Reader]

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Oh...and the above post applies to you, too -- you, who believes the Dispatch's single series on teacher sex offenders equates with the decade-long, search-and-destroy assault on the Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church is a good bit larger than any individual school system, possibly even than the entire Ohio School System. And the Catholic Church has not always been wholly cooperative with making changes or providing records.

There are individuals within the Catholic Church who HAVE taken the systemic abuse quite seriously. 60 Minutes did a piece not long ago about a Bishop who agreed to meet with abuse victims.

I would also hold that much of the behavior of the Catholic Church was typical of thinking in a good many places--that it was best to make the least fuss possible. If nobody said anything perhaps the kid would forget and that once caught the abuser would learn from mistakes. This happened over and over again in families, in schools, and in Protestant churches, as well as the BSA. But, there is a difference between smaller organizations who got rid of the abuser without taking any formal legal action and those who were large enough to foster geographic cures by moving the abuser to another site.

[FKA Reader]

-tip- wrote:

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Until you acknowledge the known larger problem existing among teachers and Muslims, nothing you say has any credibility.
You and your split-personality, Che, are Catholic-haters of the first degree.

You got any current data on Muslim pedophilia?

[FKA Reader]

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The children of conservatives don't spend their lives trying to discover who they are.
They were taught from birth who they are and how important that is in the grand plan.

You saying that there are no gay offspring of conservatives?

LOL!

[FKA Reader]

Pam wrote:

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After what closet gay Jerry Sandusky did to little boys in the Penn State showers it is foolish to expose little boys to this sort of behvior.
Just say no before we have more Jerry Sandusky's preying on children.

Questionable whether or not Sandusky was gay. Many pedophiles don't discriminate but prey on available and vulnerable children of an attractive age.

But, Jerry Sandusky certainly never presented as gay. He looked to most of the world like a married man and father.

Exactly what would have kept him out of the BSA?

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FKA Reader wrote:

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The Catholic Church is a good bit larger than any individual school system, possibly even than the entire Ohio School System. And the Catholic Church has not always been wholly cooperative with making changes or providing records.
There are individuals within the Catholic Church who HAVE taken the systemic abuse quite seriously. 60 Minutes did a piece not long ago about a Bishop who agreed to meet with abuse victims.
I would also hold that much of the behavior of the Catholic Church was typical of thinking in a good many places--that it was best to make the least fuss possible. If nobody said anything perhaps the kid would forget and that once caught the abuser would learn from mistakes. This happened over and over again in families, in schools, and in Protestant churches, as well as the BSA. But, there is a difference between smaller organizations who got rid of the abuser without taking any formal legal action and those who were large enough to foster geographic cures by moving the abuser to another site.

Public school students -- the overwhelming majority of America's children -- spend 7-9 hrs., 5 days/wk, 36 wks/yr...under the control of public school employees.

You're just a Catholic-hater, too, eh?

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FKA Reader wrote:

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You got any current data on Muslim pedophilia?

Ask 8-yr old Aisha.
Her husband was and is the model Muslims follow.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php...

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FKA Reader wrote:

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You saying that there are no gay offspring of conservatives?
LOL!

Ever heard of the prodigal son?
Some choose the broken road.
But they have no excuse for it.

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FKA Reader wrote:

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Questionable whether or not Sandusky was gay. Many pedophiles don't discriminate but prey on available and vulnerable children of an attractive age.
But, Jerry Sandusky certainly never presented as gay. He looked to most of the world like a married man and father.
Exactly what would have kept him out of the BSA?

Enough of your ridiculous defense of homosexuals.
Same-sex acts are classified as homosexual.
The End.

[Che Reagan Christ]

Seriouslady wrote:

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Really brilliant to paint everyone with the same brush. Doesn't mommy have a play date scheduledd for you today, Che?

You are extraordinarily slow on the uptake.

[Che Reagan Christ]

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Oh...and the above post applies to you, too -- you, who believes the Dispatch's single series on teacher sex offenders equates with the decade-long, search-and-destroy assault on the Catholic Church.

You object, not to the rape of children, but that someone finally pulled back the curtain on the Church's dirty little secret. Marone.

[Che Reagan Christ]

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The children of conservatives don't spend their lives trying to discover who they are.
They were taught from birth who they are and how important that is in the grand plan.

Sex objects for authority figures?

[Che Reagan Christ]

gokeefe wrote:

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I suggest you learn about what happened in the Toledo Diocese. While it took years for prosecution to occur, it did. One priest is in prison. More were de-frocked and removed.
In the general population, coverup also occurs.
Penn State ring a bell?
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/29/world/europ...
http://ktla.com/local-news/stories/lausd-teac...
Need more? Google, it's your friend.

Well, that makes it A-Ok then. I wonder if all of those confessions given to and communions taken from that rapist priest are void.

[Che Reagan Christ]

6was9 wrote:

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Your mad eh....LOL

My what?

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Che Reagan Christ wrote:

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You object, not to the rape of children, but that someone finally pulled back the curtain on the Church's dirty little secret. Marone.

What I object to is the blatantly biased reporting, considering the proven greater risk within the public schools, which are also guilty of cover-ups, transfers and early retirements.

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Che Reagan Christ wrote:

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Sex objects for authority figures?

Did Sister Mary Frances beat your butt with a Bible...for your vile mouth?

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What I object to is the blatantly biased reporting, considering the proven greater risk within the public schools, which are also guilty of cover-ups, transfers and early retirements.

And, of course...the automatic pass given to Islamists [i.e., "it's a cultural thing"].

Stand on principle. Or don't. Simple as that.

[gokeefe]

Che Reagan Christ wrote:

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Well, that makes it A-Ok then. I wonder if all of those confessions given to and communions taken from that rapist priest are void.

I don't think anyone said it was ok or condoned it, Ms. Thick Skull.

I do think that a few of us are trying to tell you that pedophilia occurs across a broad swath of society and that coverups happen through a broad swath of society. The Catholic Church, being an organization composed of humans, isn't immune from it.

So should Penn State be eliminated from existence because it covered up Jerry Sandusky? Should we condemn Penn State as an educational institution because of Sandusky? No. So the same applies to the church. Now go crawl back into your pit of self misery and wallow in it.

[gokeefe]

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Did Sister Mary Frances beat your butt with a Bible...for your vile mouth?

She probably called the priest for an exorcism...

[6was9]

Che Reagan Christ wrote:

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My what?

ROTFLMAO....try to keep up......