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Adif understanding

United States

#833 Feb 8, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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I just wanted you to keep typing.
So, is it ok to "trample on the rights of some to protect" others or not?
It's done all the time. It seems to be the accepted practice. When it comes to children, I would say absolutely.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#834 Feb 8, 2013
Adif understanding wrote:
<quoted text>You should go back and check. I said it twice now. And it is not perjury, it is not having to tell the truth you said. You said married people don't have to testify against each other and that is a right gay couple don't have. So gay people are trying to get legal marriage recognizes in all states so they can avoid paying taxes, collect government money and not have to tell the truth about happenings their partner was involved in. That is the reality you are pushing.
You're nutty.

Gay people are asking to be treated the same under the law as heterosexuals.

Someone asks me for examples.

I then present a few.

You then claim I have a specific agenda based upon one of those examples.

Nutball.

woof
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#835 Feb 8, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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No.
same answer you will get with gun control
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#836 Feb 8, 2013
Adif understanding wrote:
<quoted text>It's done all the time. It seems to be the accepted practice. When it comes to children, I would say absolutely.
Fair enough. So that sauce is also good for gun regulations, right?

“animis opibusque parati”

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#837 Feb 8, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Fair enough. So that sauce is also good for gun regulations, right?
Guns are inanimate objects.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#838 Feb 8, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Guns are inanimate objects.
So what?

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#839 Feb 8, 2013
Adif understanding wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't say sex was just mechanical manipulation, I said outside of religious and biological procreation, it is.
As for attractive. define attractive.
As for religious functions of sex, it is specific to the religion. Most of them indicate it is for procreation.
So--let me be clear. Are you getting your rocks off for procreation or religious expression?

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#840 Feb 8, 2013
Adif understanding wrote:
<quoted text>Ever heard of a threesome?
Then you have engaged in same-sex enounters.
Adif understanding

United States

#841 Feb 8, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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You're nutty.
Gay people are asking to be treated the same under the law as heterosexuals.
Someone asks me for examples.
I then present a few.
You then claim I have a specific agenda based upon one of those examples.
Nutball.
woof
They already are treated the same under the law as heterosexuals are. They don't want equal rights, they want extra rights. They want the ability to do what no one else can do because of choices they made.

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#842 Feb 8, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
PS: in 2013 it will cost more in taxes to file married.
More per person than filing individually, or more than it cost to file married in the past?

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#843 Feb 8, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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I'm not sure you are getting it because of that terribley awkward post, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
So pick one. Is the "if it saves even one child" argument valid or not? I don't care which you pick. But it's either valid or it isn't.
Sometimes I suspect that Topix doesn't got well with other entertainments. Like drinking, perhaps.
Adif understanding

United States

#844 Feb 8, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Fair enough. So that sauce is also good for gun regulations, right?
Nope, there is this thing called the second amendment which limits government's ability to tred on certain rights.

Have you thought this through? I mean I saw your setup coming several posts ago and after stringing it out, I simply remind you of something that I know you are well aware of and completely blow your argument out of the water.

You see, it's all in the details. The details that allow you to act like a freaking idiot as the government likely would have sterilized your parents had Eugenics not fell out of favor.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#845 Feb 8, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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More per person than filing individually, or more than it cost to file married in the past?
It's easy to research under marriage tax penalty, and it's wrong. You should not be penalized for being married in this country. I realize you were a single mom but you can't ignore the fact that we are rewarding young people who are having baby after baby without benefit of marriage, often with different partners. And the mindset with that is different from those who choose to adopt IMO.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#846 Feb 8, 2013
Adif understanding wrote:
<quoted text>They already are treated the same under the law as heterosexuals are. They don't want equal rights, they want extra rights. They want the ability to do what no one else can do because of choices they made.
Legally, they're not and no matter where you land in this debate, you can't change that fact. It is sad that someone who has been there for another for years and years, through good and bad, ultimately cannot make serious choices in the hospital for another. OTOH, I've seen it happen with friends who take care of older adults and, in the end, it's the estranged family members who get the make the choices at the end, often not what the sick person wanted.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#847 Feb 8, 2013
Wait what wrote:
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Legally, they're not and no matter where you land in this debate, you can't change that fact. It is sad that someone who has been there for another for years and years, through good and bad, ultimately cannot make serious choices in the hospital for another. OTOH, I've seen it happen with friends who take care of older adults and, in the end, it's the estranged family members who get the make the choices at the end, often not what the sick person wanted.
and that is what power of attorney and living wills are for

everybody should have them
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#848 Feb 8, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
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and that is what power of attorney and living wills are for
everybody should have them
Agreed, but there are many younger people who are uncomfortable with facing their own mortality. I was thinking of a couple specific incidents when I wrote that. I realize it's common sense, but many people under 40 do not have their paperwork in order. Maybe even under 50, now that I think about it.

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#849 Feb 8, 2013
Wait what wrote:
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Agreed, but there are many younger people who are uncomfortable with facing their own mortality. I was thinking of a couple specific incidents when I wrote that. I realize it's common sense, but many people under 40 do not have their paperwork in order. Maybe even under 50, now that I think about it.
Another reason then that homosexuals shouldn't be in the BSA.
The motto, after all, is: "Be prepared!"
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#850 Feb 8, 2013
Wait what wrote:
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Agreed, but there are many younger people who are uncomfortable with facing their own mortality. I was thinking of a couple specific incidents when I wrote that. I realize it's common sense, but many people under 40 do not have their paperwork in order. Maybe even under 50, now that I think about it.
in a civil relationship it is a requirement if you are serious about it.

marriage it is automatic.

are homosexuals too lazy to draw up a living will; and grant power of attorney?

if so......to bad.

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#851 Feb 8, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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So what?
Guns don't target children.
Psychologically disordered people do.

Until 1973, homosexual behavior was listed in the APA Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders together with the other 547 forms of sexual deviancy [i.e., sexual paraphilias], as defined by the APA. And recently, the APA has been debating a change in the status of pedophilia from a DSM-listed mental illness to a sexual preference choice.

In 1995, the homosexual magazine "Guide" stated:

"We can be proud that the gay movement has been home to the few voices who have had the courage to say out loud that children are naturally sexual, that they deserve the right to sexual expression with whoever they choose ...[w]e must listen to our prophets. Instead of fearing being labeled pedophiles, we must proudly proclaim that sex is good, including children’s sexuality .... We must do it for the children’s sake."

A loud and proud declaration that homosexuals must molest children for the children's sake.

Just...wow.
Adif understanding

United States

#852 Feb 8, 2013
Wait what wrote:
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Legally, they're not and no matter where you land in this debate, you can't change that fact. It is sad that someone who has been there for another for years and years, through good and bad, ultimately cannot make serious choices in the hospital for another. OTOH, I've seen it happen with friends who take care of older adults and, in the end, it's the estranged family members who get the make the choices at the end, often not what the sick person wanted.
Legally, they are treated exactly the same. Any homosexual couple has exactly the same rights to marry someone of the opposite sex, of legal age, and only with their competent consent.

As for being there in the hospital, all they need to do is get a medical power of attorney and they can. However, it should be noted that others not married, even if heterosexual, have to do the exact same thing in order to get so called rights.

What homosexuals want is extra rights, they want the extra ability to have those same rights by marrying someone of the same sex instead of the opposite sex as is what society at large has directed.

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