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Obama defends mosque planned for ground zero | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 374 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Aug 14, 2010, titled Obama defends mosque planned for ground zero | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

President Barack Obama forcefully endorsed building a mosque near ground zero, saying yesterday that the country's founding principles demand no less.

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Mount Hope, OH

#384 Sep 6, 2010
Sharia for Dummies and Islamists spewing taqiyya:

1- Jihad defined as “to war against non-Muslims to establish the religion” is the duty of every Muslim and Muslim head of state (Caliph). Muslim Caliphs who refuse jihad are in violation of Sharia and unfit to rule.

2- A Caliph can hold office through seizure of power meaning through force.

3- A Caliph is exempt from being charged with serious crimes such as murder, adultery, robbery, theft, drinking and in some cases of rape.

4- A percentage of Zakat (alms) must go towards jihad.

5- It is obligatory to obey the commands of the Caliph, even if he is unjust.

6- A caliph must be a Muslim, a non-slave and a male.

7- The Muslim public must remove the Caliph in one case, if he rejects Islam.

8- A Muslim who leaves Islam must be killed immediately.

9- A Muslim will be forgiven for murder of : 1) an apostasy 2) an adulterer 3) a highway robber. Making vigilante street justice and honor killing acceptable.

10- A Muslim will not get the death penalty if he kills a non-Muslim.

11- Sharia never abolished slavery and sexual slavery and highly regulates it. A master will not be punished for killing his slave.

12- Sharia dictates death by stoning, beheading, amputation of limbs, flogging and other forms of cruel and unusual punishments even for crimes of sin such as adultery.

13- Non-Muslims are not equal to Muslims and must comply to Sharia if they are to remain safe. They are forbidden to marry Muslim women, publicly display wine or pork, recite their scriptures or openly celebrate their religious holidays or funerals. They are forbidden from building new churches or building them higher than mosques. They may not enter a mosque without permission. A non-Muslim is no longer protected if he commits adultery with a Muslim woman or if he leads a Muslim away from Islam.

14- It is a crime for a non-Muslim to sell weapons to someone who will use them against Muslims. Non-Muslims cannot curse a Muslim, say anything derogatory about Allah, the Prophet, or Islam, or expose the weak points of Muslims. However, the opposite is not true for Muslims.

15- A non-Muslim cannot inherit from a Muslim.

16- Banks must be Sharia compliant and interest is not allowed.
tip

Mount Hope, OH

#385 Sep 6, 2010
17- No testimony in court is acceptable from people of low-level jobs, such as street sweepers or a bathhouse attendant. Women in such low level jobs such as professional funeral mourners cannot keep custody of their children in case of divorce.

18- A non-Muslim cannot rule even over a non-Muslims minority.

19- Homosexuality is punishable by death.

20- There is no age limit for marriage of girls under Sharia. The marriage contract can take place anytime after birth and consummated at age 8 or 9.

21- Rebelliousness on the part of the wife nullifies the husband’s obligation to support her, gives him permission to beat her and keep her from leaving the home.

22- Divorce is only in the hands of the husband and is as easy as saying:“I divorce you” and becomes effective even if the husband did not intend it.

23- There is no community property between husband and wife and the husband’s property does not automatically go to the wife after his death.

24- A woman inherits half what a man inherits.

25- A man has the right to have up to 4 wives and she has no right to divorce him even if he is polygamous.

26- The dowry is given in exchange for the woman’s sexual organs.

27- A man is allowed to have sex with slave women and women captured in battle, and if the enslaved woman is married her marriage is annulled.

28- The testimony of a woman in court is half the value of a man.

29- A woman loses custody if she remarries.

30- To prove rape, a woman must have 4 male witnesses.

31- A rapist may only be required to pay the bride-money (dowry) without marrying the rape victim.

32- A Muslim woman must cover every inch of her body which is considered “Awrah,” a sexual organ. Some schools of Sharia allow the face and some don’t.

33- A Muslim man is forgiven if he kills his wife caught in the act of adultery. However, the opposite is not true for women since he “could be married to the woman he was caught with.”

The above are clear-cut laws in Islam decided by great Imams after years of examination and interpretation of the Quran, Hadith and Mohammed’s life. Now let the peaceful, learned Imam Rauf tell us what part of the above is compliant with the U.S. Constitution.
Thy Will Be Done

Columbus, OH

#386 Sep 6, 2010
Among them are illiterates who know not the Book, except from hearsay, and they do nothing but conjecture.--- Qur'an, 2:78.

Woe, then, to those who write the book with their hands and then say: "This is from Allah," so that they may take for it a small price; therefore woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.--- Qur'an, 2:79.

Allah created you and your brain wherein your corrupted mind presumes to think. Your disdain for Allah in that Allah created you is due to your own rebellion. Don't blame Allah, but blame yourself for your evil disposition. Your ability to reason and make good decisions is nonexistent. You are absent minded because your mind is weak.

Peace be upon Prophet Muhammad. HIs marriage to his youngest wife Aisha (May Allah be pleased with her) continues to be a source of controversy.

1: Not all sources agree with Imam Bukhari regarding Aisha's age; Bukhari's ahadith, verbally transmitted reports that were eventually put in writing were not collated until some 300-odd years after Muhammad's death (Peace be upon him). Other sources give Aisha's age as being 16 at marriage and 19 at consummation. Still other sources give a range of 12 to 15.

2: Now, even if her ages were 6 and 9 respectively, the custom of taking child brides was a part of Middle-Eastern culture. The Jews practised it as well as many of the other nations in the Middle-East. In fact, there are sources that give Mary (May Allah be pleased with her) the mother of Jesus (Peace be upon him) as probably being around the ages of 12 to 14 when she married Joseph. Sources give Joseph's age to be around 86 years when they wed.

You obviously like to consult and regurgitate sources other than the Qur'an such as Bukhari's collection of ahadith. Aisha, may Allah be pleased with her, in fact, is credited with providing numerous ahadith regarding the exalted character, veracity, kindness and selflessness of the Messenger of Allah. Upon him be peace.

The Qur'an proclaims time and time again that it is the Book of Guidance from Allah, for the believers. Collections of ahadith by Bukhari and others are a major source of disagreement and controversy.
tip wrote:
<quoted text>
If Allah has no opinion on anything, then he is irrelevant.
But then, thinking people already knew that.
So...Muhammad only molested his 9-year old "wife," but never beat her? How reassuring.
tip

Mount Hope, OH

#387 Sep 6, 2010
Hansolo

Dublin, OH

#388 Sep 6, 2010
Just a piece of paper wrote:
Our founding fathers would be very proud of the fact that we are ignoring the Constitution. Freedom to assemble only applies if you are Christian, right?
How are you feeling kid? You don't look so bad to me. You look strong enough to pull the ears off a gundark.
sue

United States

#389 Sep 6, 2010
bumper sticker wrote:
Qu'rock of qu'rap.
My God doesn’t command me to put explosives in my underpants.
LOL

Since: Jan 10

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#390 Sep 6, 2010
The Ground 0 mosque will be used as a recruiting tool. terrorist around the would will see this as a symbol of victory over the United States of America and will join the jihad. terrorist are into all this symbolism and building a mosque on the pulverized remains of Americans is wrong. no, they do not have the right to build this mosque on Ground 0.

You try to twist the intent of the Constitution to make this argument. You are wrong!

Hell no, no mosque on Ground 0. 70% of Americans say it is wrong. it is wrong.

Since: Jan 10

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#391 Sep 6, 2010
Thy Will Be Done wrote:
Among them are illiterates who know not the Book, except from hearsay, and they do nothing but conjecture.--- Qur'an, 2:78.
Woe, then, to those who write the book with their hands and then say: "This is from Allah," so that they may take for it a small price; therefore woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.--- Qur'an, 2:79.
Allah created you and your brain wherein your corrupted mind presumes to think. Your disdain for Allah in that Allah created you is due to your own rebellion. Don't blame Allah, but blame yourself for your evil disposition. Your ability to reason and make good decisions is nonexistent. You are absent minded because your mind is weak.
Peace be upon Prophet Muhammad. HIs marriage to his youngest wife Aisha (May Allah be pleased with her) continues to be a source of controversy.
1: Not all sources agree with Imam Bukhari regarding Aisha's age; Bukhari's ahadith, verbally transmitted reports that were eventually put in writing were not collated until some 300-odd years after Muhammad's death (Peace be upon him). Other sources give Aisha's age as being 16 at marriage and 19 at consummation. Still other sources give a range of 12 to 15.
2: Now, even if her ages were 6 and 9 respectively, the custom of taking child brides was a part of Middle-Eastern culture. The Jews practised it as well as many of the other nations in the Middle-East. In fact, there are sources that give Mary (May Allah be pleased with her) the mother of Jesus (Peace be upon him) as probably being around the ages of 12 to 14 when she married Joseph. Sources give Joseph's age to be around 86 years when they wed.
You obviously like to consult and regurgitate sources other than the Qur'an such as Bukhari's collection of ahadith. Aisha, may Allah be pleased with her, in fact, is credited with providing numerous ahadith regarding the exalted character, veracity, kindness and selflessness of the Messenger of Allah. Upon him be peace.
The Qur'an proclaims time and time again that it is the Book of Guidance from Allah, for the believers. Collections of ahadith by Bukhari and others are a major source of disagreement and controversy.
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Here's a clue, dim wit, it is 2010 and this is America.
all this is irrelevent bull s h i t.

This Land is my Land, this Land is your land....stop trying to f it up.
tip

Mount Hope, OH

#392 Sep 6, 2010
I Love Ohio 2010 wrote:
The Ground 0 mosque will be used as a recruiting tool. terrorist around the would will see this as a symbol of victory over the United States of America and will join the jihad. terrorist are into all this symbolism and building a mosque on the pulverized remains of Americans is wrong. no, they do not have the right to build this mosque on Ground 0.
You try to twist the intent of the Constitution to make this argument. You are wrong!
Hell no, no mosque on Ground 0. 70% of Americans say it is wrong. it is wrong.
Correct. Just last month....

(AP)– BERLIN — German authorities say they have closed a Hamburg mosque used by the Sept. 11 attackers as a meeting place before they moved to the United States.

A statement by Hamburg officials says the Taiba mosque was shut down and its cultural association was banned on Monday. The prayer house, formerly known as al-Quds mosque, used to be a meeting and recruiting point for some of the Sept. 11 attackers.

Weekly news magazine Focus cites a report by a local intelligence agency branch in saying the mosque has again become the city's "main center of attraction for the jihad scene." It says some members who belonged to the Taiba group and prayed at the mosque have moved on to a radical training camp in Uzbekistan.

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Prayer and jihad go hand-in-hand in the Islamic death cult.
Oliver Canterberry

Chillicothe, OH

#394 Apr 21, 2013
If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, its a duck.
Anne

Sparta, MO

#395 Apr 21, 2013
Why do you hate America wrote:
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You have to wonder why the person who posted this hates America so much?
Did you grow up under Communism where the government says what you can believe?
Are you a North Korean where you've got to follow the great dictator?
What part of Freedom of Religion don't you understand?
I happen to agree that they should not be allowed to build their mosque, particularly on ground zero. To me that is an insult to everyone who was killed or injured in that tragedy. Our country is getting way to soft in letting immigrants do whatever they want here. I don't care if we hurt their poor little feelings, call it hate if you like. I say it's just common sense not to let them do it, and stupidity if we do.
Oliver Canterberry

Chillicothe, OH

#396 Apr 22, 2013
Anne wrote:
<quoted text> I happen to agree that they should not be allowed to build their mosque, particularly on ground zero. To me that is an insult to everyone who was killed or injured in that tragedy. Our country is getting way to soft in letting immigrants do whatever they want here. I don't care if we hurt their poor little feelings, call it hate if you like. I say it's just common sense not to let them do it, and stupidity if we do.
I agree Anne. We are soft on immigrants, even convicted terrorist who murder children in cold blood.
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#397 Jan 14, 2015
Didn't Obama say the "future does not belong to those that slander the prophet?"

I see a pattern and wonder just whose side this "president" is on.
Duke for Mayor

Kent, OH

#398 Jan 14, 2015
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
Didn't Obama say the "future does not belong to those that slander the prophet?"
I see a pattern and wonder just whose side this "president" is on.
Go read that speech you moron.

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