Prosecutor: Report would end Ohio death penalty

There are 20 comments on the Apr 10, 2014, The Marion Star story titled Prosecutor: Report would end Ohio death penalty. In it, The Marion Star reports that:

Retired appeals court judge James Brogan, right, chairman of the Ohio Supreme Court death penalty review committee, addresses concerns about the layout of the panel's 71-page report as committee vice chairman, Franklin County Judge Stephen McIntosh, examines the document on Thursday, April 10, 2014, in Columbus.

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Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#1 Apr 10, 2014
Too many of Obama's sons are killing innocent people, Jane Jurgens stabbed to death while she jogged at Blendon Woods, Rikki Witaker was stabbed in the parking lot at LA Fitness in West Columbus, a female student in raped in the bathroom at Columbus State and an 80 year old woman was killed today in Mount Vernon, Ohio. These males should be given the death penalty immediately like the Bible says in Genesis 9:6 Whoever sheds man's blood by man shall his blood be shed."

Put these thugs to death and obey the Word of God and make the community safe from these savages who are nothing but scourges in our community, a blight upon civilization.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#2 Apr 10, 2014
Over a dozen people in this country have been executed then subsequently shown to have been innocent. What are we supposed to tell their families, "Oops! Sorry."?

Is it REALLY acceptable to get it wrong once in awhile?

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#4 Apr 11, 2014
And when you consider that "the government: is "us"...
ms jj - justina johnson

Reynoldsburg, OH

#5 Apr 11, 2014
Lyndsay Woodrum wrote:
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That's what made me change my mind about the death penalty. If the government can't get it right and kills someone who didnt deserve it, how is the government any better then a murderer?
all die will of god
These are People

Fort Worth, TX

#6 Apr 12, 2014
"Add die will of God." you say. Where in the world do you get the idea that it is God's will for innocent people to die?

God help you if it is ever a loved one of yours who gets the death penalty and is innocent. I am sure you will not be saying it is God's willl then.
ms jj - justina johnson

Reynoldsburg, OH

#7 Apr 13, 2014
These are People wrote:
"Add die will of God." you say. Where in the world do you get the idea that it is God's will for innocent people to die?
God help you if it is ever a loved one of yours who gets the death penalty and is innocent. I am sure you will not be saying it is God's willl then.
just fact all die god will
Sarah

Bronx, NY

#8 Apr 13, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
Over a dozen people in this country have been executed then subsequently shown to have been innocent. What are we supposed to tell their families, "Oops! Sorry."?
Is it REALLY acceptable to get it wrong once in awhile?
Excuse me, but please name them, including legitimate documented sources. Thanks.
Sarah

Bronx, NY

#9 Apr 13, 2014
Lyndsay Woodrum wrote:
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That's what made me change my mind about the death penalty. If the government can't get it right and kills someone who didnt deserve it, how is the government any better then a murderer?
Please don't confuse "murder" with "execution." Murder is the extrajudicial ending of the life of a human being. Execution is the lawful act of a government. Obviously, there are cases where the state is the criminal -- Nazi Germany; Iran; Iraq. Blissfully, however, the United States is a republic, with a democratic form of government that does not use executions to rid itself of political enemies or people with bad substance abuse habits. The people who live in the states which allow capital punishment have overwhelmingly voted in favor of the death penalty. That is their right.

For the record, I am not the biggest fan of capital punishment. But whereas murder is always illegal, execution is always legal. There is far too much use of the term "execution" in inaccurate contexts. "Gangland execution," for example. That's misleading. Execution is a sovereign, fully legal act of the state.
They cannot kill a Spook

Detroit, MI

#10 Apr 13, 2014
The death penalty needs expanded.
Break into a home the guilty should be hung on the front lawn.
Steal a car the guilty should be necklaced Mandela style.
Attack a old person or a cripple the guilty should have their legs smashed with a sledge hammer and left to starve.
All invading trash should be taken to the border with Mexico and impaled on a fence post and left to rot.
Oh Really

Reynoldsburg, OH

#11 Apr 13, 2014
Sarah wrote:
<quoted text>
Please don't confuse "murder" with "execution." Murder is the extrajudicial ending of the life of a human being. Execution is the lawful act of a government. Obviously, there are cases where the state is the criminal -- Nazi Germany; Iran; Iraq. Blissfully, however, the United States is a republic, with a democratic form of government that does not use executions to rid itself of political enemies or people with bad substance abuse habits. The people who live in the states which allow capital punishment have overwhelmingly voted in favor of the death penalty. That is their right.
For the record, I am not the biggest fan of capital punishment. But whereas murder is always illegal, execution is always legal. There is far too much use of the term "execution" in inaccurate contexts. "Gangland execution," for example. That's misleading. Execution is a sovereign, fully legal act of the state.
Tell that to the Indians.
Sarah

Bronx, NY

#12 Apr 13, 2014
Oh Really wrote:
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Tell that to the Indians.
I'm sorry, did you mean "native Americans?"

I'm not denying that European colonizers rolled right over them, or that treaties were unilaterally abrogated or ignored. There were plenty of wars, large and small, and the colonizers did not win all of them all of the time.

Then again, the United States continues to attempt to redress the injustice. Must be a nice life, not having to pay federal taxes, receive a government stipend and get to monopolize the private casino business.

Of course it's a gruesome episode in American history. But you really compare it to Nazi Germany, or the Khmer Rouge? I don't think so.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#13 Apr 13, 2014
Sarah wrote:
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Excuse me, but please name them, including legitimate documented sources. Thanks.
I was mistaken about the number. I was confusing it with the numere released from death row.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exonerat...

Two have been absolutely exonerated

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Garrett

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Tafero

One was legislatively exonerated

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipita_Rodrigue...

and one is strongly suspect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Wil...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Wil...
Late to the discussion

Reynoldsburg, OH

#14 Apr 13, 2014
Sarah wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry, did you mean "native Americans?"
Yeah, Indians.
They cannot kill a Spook

Detroit, MI

#15 Apr 13, 2014
Late to the discussion wrote:
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Yeah, Indians.
Injuns. Indians are the people you call when your laptop dies while under warranty.
These are People

Fort Worth, TX

#16 Apr 16, 2014
It is not God's will for an innocent man to die. That is man's will and too many times it is from a prosecutor who is more interesting in making a name for himself than in making sure the correct person is charged.. Why do so many DA's fight like heck to keep DNA from being tested that might save a person's life\? If they are so sure the person did the crime, then why would they want to prevent the testing that might free an innocent person?

Money and fame have become too important in some people's lives.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#17 Apr 16, 2014
We may never know the extent of wrongful executions, as the state has no interest in investigating a crime they have already determined to be solved.
These are People

Fort Worth, TX

#18 Apr 16, 2014
So true TonyD2. So true.

The Innocence Project is more concerned with saving the lives of those still alive that are innocent. They do not have enough funds to even cover all of those needing help to spend money proving those innocent that have already died.

I can't believe the number of people that seem to feel since we now have DNA testing that no innocent person is being put to death anymore.

Too many of us feel this can never happen to us or our families that this only happens to other people. I have read no cases where anyone facing this situation thought this would someday happen to them.

We all need to realize this can happen to us.
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#19 Apr 16, 2014
How about this for statistics.

There was a murder today on the north side at the YWCA, right in the parking lot.

A woman was murdered last week in Mount Vernon, Ohio 80 years old in a nursing home.

Jane Jurgens was murdered while she jogged at Blendon Woods last year.

Rikki Witaker was stabbed in the parking lot of LA Fitness 4 weeks ago.

A woman was raped in the Columbus State Community College bathroom.

All of these perpetrators would look like Obama's son (if he had one) just like Trayvon Martin.

All of these crime occurred in broad day light or public places not ghettos.

All of these crimes were committed by the demographic that commits the majority of murderers in this nation. The listing I have provided is proof that females are especially vulnerable to this horror.

The ONLY reason people are against the death penalty is because the majority of those put to death are Black but that is because they commit the majority of the crime.

If anything it is time to increase the use of the death penalty and for all persons as risk to obtain their conceal carry permit and learn how to use deadly force, brute force which is the only thing this generation of savages understand.

"He who sheds the blood of man by man shall his blood be shed" Genesis Chapter 9.
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#20 Apr 16, 2014
These are People wrote:
So true TonyD2. So true.
The Innocence Project is more concerned with saving the lives of those still alive that are innocent. They do not have enough funds to even cover all of those needing help to spend money proving those innocent that have already died.
I can't believe the number of people that seem to feel since we now have DNA testing that no innocent person is being put to death anymore.
Too many of us feel this can never happen to us or our families that this only happens to other people. I have read no cases where anyone facing this situation thought this would someday happen to them.
We all need to realize this can happen to us.
The innocent are the joggers like Jane Jurgens, or Rikki Witiker stabbed in the parking lot of LA Fitness. There is a crime wave going on and the last thing that needs to happen is the government to stop putting Obama supporters to death just because it eliminates Democrat votes.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#21 Apr 17, 2014
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
How about this for statistics.
There was a murder today on the north side at the YWCA, right in the parking lot.
A woman was murdered last week in Mount Vernon, Ohio 80 years old in a nursing home.
Jane Jurgens was murdered while she jogged at Blendon Woods last year.
Rikki Witaker was stabbed in the parking lot of LA Fitness 4 weeks ago.
A woman was raped in the Columbus State Community College bathroom.
All of these perpetrators would look like Obama's son (if he had one) just like Trayvon Martin.
All of these crime occurred in broad day light or public places not ghettos.
All of these crimes were committed by the demographic that commits the majority of murderers in this nation. The listing I have provided is proof that females are especially vulnerable to this horror.
The ONLY reason people are against the death penalty is because the majority of those put to death are Black but that is because they commit the majority of the crime.
If anything it is time to increase the use of the death penalty and for all persons as risk to obtain their conceal carry permit and learn how to use deadly force, brute force which is the only thing this generation of savages understand.
"He who sheds the blood of man by man shall his blood be shed" Genesis Chapter 9.
And when someone is wrongfully executed what do we do? Say "Oh well."?

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