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Created by Oliver Canterberry on Mar 25, 2013

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“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

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#336 Apr 4, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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NAFTA was started by George HW. Clinton just didn't do anything about it.
Clinton could have vetoed it. It would have been the wrong thing to do.

Rust Belt manufacturing was in decline due to unions and taxation.

Thanks to the GOP, MI and IN are right-to-work and cut taxes, manufacturing is coming back. An oil boom certainly helped even more, which the Ds are blocking in New York.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#337 Apr 4, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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NAFTA was started by George HW. Clinton just didn't do anything about it.
A Democrat House, a Democrat Senate and a Democrat President passed NAFTA in 1993. That is a fact.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Westerville, OH

#338 Apr 4, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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They would cost far more. You obviously forgot about comparative advantage.
With a more stable economy and people working and earning decent wages, people would be able to afford more. If you take away the costs of shipping and packaging, that would cut down on costs considerably.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Westerville, OH

#339 Apr 4, 2013
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>A Democrat House, a Democrat Senate and a Democrat President passed NAFTA in 1993. That is a fact.
Soooo...you're saying George HW Bush did not sign NAFTA on December 17, 1992? An act that he designed and fought for?

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Westerville, OH

#340 Apr 4, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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Clinton could have vetoed it. It would have been the wrong thing to do.
Rust Belt manufacturing was in decline due to unions and taxation.
Thanks to the GOP, MI and IN are right-to-work and cut taxes, manufacturing is coming back. An oil boom certainly helped even more, which the Ds are blocking in New York.
Having lived in MI for the last three years, that place is not doing well. It may be doing better than it was four years ago, but jobs are still scarce there and the jobs that are available don't pay much.

There are still people in the UP who have to rely on trade and barter. The job I had up there paid three times less than the same job I have where I am now. The roads are crappy, there's Detroit which speaks for itself and just a whole mess of problems. I lived close to West Bloomfield, one of the most affluent areas (not far from Birmingham and Bloomfield Hills) in Michigan. On my drive to work I drove by dozens of mansions that sat empty and foreclosed.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#341 Apr 4, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Having lived in MI for the last three years, that place is not doing well. It may be doing better than it was four years ago, but jobs are still scarce there and the jobs that are available don't pay much.
There are still people in the UP who have to rely on trade and barter. The job I had up there paid three times less than the same job I have where I am now. The roads are crappy, there's Detroit which speaks for itself and just a whole mess of problems. I lived close to West Bloomfield, one of the most affluent areas (not far from Birmingham and Bloomfield Hills) in Michigan. On my drive to work I drove by dozens of mansions that sat empty and foreclosed.
MI was run into the ground by the unions for decades. It will take time to drag it out of the hole.

But they are doing better unemployment wise than all D Illinois.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#342 Apr 5, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Soooo...you're saying George HW Bush did not sign NAFTA on December 17, 1992? An act that he designed and fought for?
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1993-11-08/n...

Obama Knocks Clinton, But Wouldn't Ax NAFTA
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story...

Unions Overlook Clinton Stand On Nafta For Marriage's Sake
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-10-11...

Remarks on Naming William M. Daley as NAFTA Task Force Chairman and an Exchange With Reporters
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/...

Bill Clinton's True Legacy: Outsourcer-in-Chief
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-white/bill...

Bill Clinton on Free Trade
http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Bill_Clinton...

Clinton Won Nafta, But He Had Better Listen To Labor
http://www.businessweek.com/stories/1993-12-2...
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#343 Apr 5, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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With a more stable economy and people working and earning decent wages, people would be able to afford more. If you take away the costs of shipping and packaging, that would cut down on costs considerably.
I guarantee you that most people would pay the $1.00 at the dollar store for the pencil holder, rather than the $9.99 it would cost to make it here in America by providing a decent wage (plus health insurance, BWC payments, Social Security contributions, etc., etc., etc.).
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#344 Apr 5, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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http://chevrontoxico.com/
I don't want companies from the US going overseas period. We don't have a hand in civilizing China. And we're only interested in countries that can offer something for us. There are lots of "uncivilized" nations out there that America could care less about. And moving into a country, setting up shop and paying a pittance in wages isn't really helping these people.
China's manufacturing is largely driven by America. Many of the products we consume are from there. We could very easily manufacture some of these items ourselves and create jobs here.
Actually, you can't do it easily. The EPA is pretty restrictive when it comes to factories - something you don't find in smoggy China.
Oliver Canterberry

New Albany, OH

#346 Apr 5, 2013
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> NAFTA helped destroy our US workers...damn Clinton for that! While it is true many Black men have a felony, it shouldn't be expected for them to starve because a bigot won't hire them.
I've done contract work in a lot of companies, and I know for sure many of the whitemen in those places are felons! The prison tats on their necks, forearms, and fingers tell the story.
Drugs! I'll bet a dollar to a donut that if urine test were done randomly in Corporate jobs as they are in blue collar ones, 1/4 of the workforce would be unemployed. And it's your Republican governors and mayors that have allowed Mexicans to slide into this country at boarder states. The business community loves that slave wage labor! It's the whiteman's fault once again.
It's the Whiteman's fault once again?

Why am I not surprised?

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#347 Apr 5, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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MI was run into the ground by the unions for decades. It will take time to drag it out of the hole.
But they are doing better unemployment wise than all D Illinois.
I don't deny there are problems with unions. But I also see the benefit in them as well. I also don't think unions are the sole reason that Michigan is in the state it is.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#348 Apr 5, 2013
Wait what wrote:
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http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1993-11-08/n...
Obama Knocks Clinton, But Wouldn't Ax NAFTA
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story...
Unions Overlook Clinton Stand On Nafta For Marriage's Sake
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-10-11...
Remarks on Naming William M. Daley as NAFTA Task Force Chairman and an Exchange With Reporters
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/...
Bill Clinton's True Legacy: Outsourcer-in-Chief
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-white/bill...
Bill Clinton on Free Trade
http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Bill_Clinton...
Clinton Won Nafta, But He Had Better Listen To Labor
http://www.businessweek.com/stories/1993-12-2...
Instead of posting articles that I'm not going to read because I don't have that kind of time, why don't you come out and say what you're trying to portray here?

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#349 Apr 5, 2013
Wait what wrote:
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I guarantee you that most people would pay the $1.00 at the dollar store for the pencil holder, rather than the $9.99 it would cost to make it here in America by providing a decent wage (plus health insurance, BWC payments, Social Security contributions, etc., etc., etc.).
We'll probably never know. There are a lot of ways to make costs of living go down. America's just not interested in them. Other countries seem to do fine with providing decent wages, health insurance and social security. True, we are a larger nation, but when less people are on welfare and actually working, our debt goes down. We can export our goods to other countries. America got lazy when it started to allow other countries to build our products.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

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#350 Apr 5, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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I don't deny there are problems with unions. But I also see the benefit in them as well. I also don't think unions are the sole reason that Michigan is in the state it is.
Michigan had the highest rate of unionization in the country for a few decades, though I think it no longer is.

A certain George Romney bears fault for starting many of the problems that his successors exacerbated. Not to mention Coleman Young's ruin of Detroit.

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Hightstown, NJ

#351 Apr 5, 2013
Wait what wrote:
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Actually, you can't do it easily. The EPA is pretty restrictive when it comes to factories - something you don't find in smoggy China.
China is on the precipice of changing its energy solutions and working toward a lower-pollution way of life. Many other countries have already done this. They are beginning to tighten their pollution policies and are actually much more interested in environmental issues than we are, likely because theirs is at a crisis level. When you rely on coal and other dirty energy sources, you're of course going to have an environmental crisis that also affects people. When you begin to rely on cleaner, more efficient energy, you can still produce without damaging the environment.

I've been watching China closely for a little while. Although it won't happen overnight, they will change how things are done. They are closing factories and halting future projects. I will say they are proactive about the issue.

When I see what other third-world countries are subjected to because of a lack of restrictions on pollutants, I'm glad I live where I live.

The diversion of certain rivers has all but eliminated the Aral Sea, causing serious consequences for the people who live nearby. These people have a 70% rate of esophageal cancer and scientists have found that their DNA is permanently mutated, which means when they have children of their own, their children's chances of getting cancer are that much more increased.

Is this what we really want?

Since: Jan 12

Dayton, OH

#352 Apr 5, 2013
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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It's the Whiteman's fault once again?
Why am I not surprised?
Because you're a white man.

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#353 Apr 5, 2013
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text>Because you're a white man.
And that's why we must send you all back to Africa.

Since: Jan 12

Columbus, OH

#354 Apr 6, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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And that's why we must send you all back to Africa.
After you, sir :-)

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

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#355 Apr 6, 2013
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> After you, sir :-)
Colonialism wasn't received well the first time, I doubt it will be the second time.

We'll find out once the Chinese take over.

Since: Jan 12

Columbus, OH

#356 Apr 11, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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Colonialism wasn't received well the first time, I doubt it will be the second time.
We'll find out once the Chinese take over.
How's your Mandarin?

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