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Biden lies: ‘We weren’t told they wanted more security’ in Benghazi

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Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#1 Oct 11, 2012
Biden lies:‘We weren’t told they wanted more security’ in Benghazi
Posted at 9:25 pm on October 11, 2012 by Twitchy Staff | View Comments
Ed [email protected]
Ruh-roh Biden says admin didn't know about security concerns in Benghazi -- evidence to contrary
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That’s not what State Department officer Eric Nordstrom told Congress. Via the Los Angeles Times:

A State Department officer who worked in Libya has told congressional investigators that he requested more security for the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi months before it came under terrorist attack but that he received no reply from Washington, according to documents and interviews.

Eric Nordstrom, a regional security official at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli until July, told investigators that he sent two cables to the State Department in March and July and asked that more diplomatic security agents be assigned to the lightly guarded compound in Benghazi.

Washington Post:

The State Department acknowledged Wednesday that it rejected appeals for more security at its diplomatic posts in Libya in the months before a fatal terrorist attack in Benghazi as Republicans suggested that lapses contributed to the deaths of the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans.



Security officials on the ground “repeatedly warned Washington officials of the dangerous situation” in Libya, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said in his opening statement.“Washington officials seemed preoccupied with the concept of normalization.”

Twitter calls B.S.:

Karl Rove
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@KarlRove
Why no protestors? Biden blames intelligence community, says "we" weren't told abt security concerns? Joe didn't hear abt cong hearings.
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Michael [email protected]_Michael
Biden: "We weren't told they wanted more security?" Really? Better check your facts VP!
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Brian [email protected]
Biden: "We weren't told they wanted more security there" A flat-out lie by the VP.#tcot #gop
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Jay [email protected]
Biden:'We weren't told there was a need for extra security' will haunt him into tomorrow and beyond.
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[email protected]
What a lie...RT @RedAlert: Biden "We weren't told they wanted more security."
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D [email protected]
So far the news headline coming out of the debate will be Biden, "We weren't told they wanted more security?"
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[email protected]
Biden: "We weren't told they wanted more security." Good God, man!
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Update:

Via AP:

Charlene R. Lamb, a deputy assistant secretary for diplomatic security, told lawmakers she refused requests for more security in Benghazi, saying the department wanted to train Libyans to protect the consulate.“Yes, sir, I said personally I would not support it,” she said.

Megyn Kelly says Biden’s statement is “directly contrary” to what State officials told Congress.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#2 Oct 11, 2012
Enzyte Bob wrote:
Biden lies:‘We weren’t told they wanted more security’ in Benghazi
He meant himself and the mouse in his pocket.

Since: Sep 09

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#3 Oct 12, 2012
You guys may wish to check a few things which compounded problems. Such as the Republican congress cutting funding for embassy security. Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz said on CNN this week that House Republicans 'absolutely' voted to cut funding for embassy security. He said, "Look, we have to make priorities and choices in this country".

Here is an important part poster #1 is leaving out.

The embassy requests for added security personnel was made in March and August. The attack occurred up in September. Those requests had nothing to do with the day of the attacks. The man who made the requests, Eric Nordstrom, stated to congressional investigators that he made the requests not to receive more men, but sought to prevent any reduction in staff due to cutbacks (which was a result of the Republican congress, not Obama).

Because of the Republican congress cutting funding for embassy security everyone had been told to 'normalize operations and reduce security resources'. Nordstrom hoped by him asking for more men the embassy would possibly get to keep the men it already had. Again, the requests were long before the attacks and had nothing to do with it. It was about the Republican reduction in funds for security.
Tim

Wellington, OH

#4 Oct 12, 2012
___Jenny___ wrote:
You guys may wish to check a few things which compounded problems. Such as the Republican congress cutting funding for embassy security. Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz said on CNN this week that House Republicans 'absolutely' voted to cut funding for embassy security. He said, "Look, we have to make priorities and choices in this country".
Here is an important part poster #1 is leaving out.
The embassy requests for added security personnel was made in March and August. The attack occurred up in September. Those requests had nothing to do with the day of the attacks. The man who made the requests, Eric Nordstrom, stated to congressional investigators that he made the requests not to receive more men, but sought to prevent any reduction in staff due to cutbacks (which was a result of the Republican congress, not Obama).
Because of the Republican congress cutting funding for embassy security everyone had been told to 'normalize operations and reduce security resources'. Nordstrom hoped by him asking for more men the embassy would possibly get to keep the men it already had. Again, the requests were long before the attacks and had nothing to do with it. It was about the Republican reduction in funds for security.
All the European embassies got Chevy Volts, I am estimating at least 100 Volts and charging stations went into around 6-8 embassies.

That is clearly enough to pay the salary of the Marines to guard the ambassador.
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#5 Oct 12, 2012
My heart is black and my lips are cold
Cities on flame with rock and roll
3000 guitars, they seem to cry
My ears will melt, and then my eyes

Let that girl
Let that girl
Rock and roll
Cities on flame now
WITH ROCK AND ROLL!

Repubs deny the truth

Vilonia, AR

#6 Oct 12, 2012
Tim wrote:
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All the European embassies got Chevy Volts, I am estimating at least 100 Volts and charging stations went into around 6-8 embassies.
That is clearly enough to pay the salary of the Marines to guard the ambassador.
The truth has been found out. The repubs in congress cut security funding to embassies.
Enzyte Bob

Blacklick, OH

#7 Oct 12, 2012
BLAME GAME: As Benghazi blame nears Hillary, Clintons grow furious.“With tensions between President Obama and the Clintons at a new high, former President Bill Clinton is moving fast to develop a contingency plan for how his wife, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, should react if Obama attempts to tie the Benghazi fiasco around her neck, according to author Ed Klein. In an exclusive interview with The Daily Caller, Klein said sources close to the Clintons tell him that Bill Clinton has assembled an informal legal team to discuss how the Secretary of State should deal with the issue of being blamed for not preventing the Benghazi terrorist attack last month.”

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/12/author-ed-k...

Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#8 Oct 12, 2012
Repubs deny the truth wrote:
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The truth has been found out. The repubs in congress cut security funding to embassies.
And how did they do that without the Senate and the president doing it? You people cry about the "obstructionist Republicans" until you find something to lie about.

Since: Sep 09

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#9 Oct 12, 2012
Cleavon Little wrote:
<quoted text>And how did they do that without the Senate and the president doing it? You people cry about the "obstructionist Republicans" until you find something to lie about.
They did vote to cut it. Republican Representative Jason Chaffetz just happened to be the one that spoke on CNN concerning it. After funding was reduced all the embassies were told to reduce security resources. Hey, you guys yelled for an investigation. you got one. It's being done. But one of the primary findings isn't what you wanted to hear is it?

Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#10 Oct 12, 2012
___Jenny___ wrote:
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They did vote to cut it. Republican Representative Jason Chaffetz just happened to be the one that spoke on CNN concerning it. After funding was reduced all the embassies were told to reduce security resources. Hey, you guys yelled for an investigation. you got one. It's being done. But one of the primary findings isn't what you wanted to hear is it?
You didn't answer my question. For the funding measure to pass, the Senate and the president had to give their OKs as well. You do understand that, do you not?

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#11 Oct 12, 2012
___Jenny___ wrote:
You guys may wish to check a few things which compounded problems. Such as the Republican congress cutting funding for embassy security.
An attempt to dodge the issue. The issue is not whether or not help could be provided, the issue is the fact that the administration LIED by claiming that the embassy didn't ASK for help.
imagine2011

Brentwood, TN

#12 Oct 12, 2012
"Tickle Me Biden's" Lies...

Fact Check: Top Ten Worst Lies by Joe Biden in VP Debate

by Joel B. Pollak 12 Oct 2012, 5:28 AM PDT 176 post a comment

Once again, Joe Biden lied his way through a Vice Presidential debate--just as he did in his contest with Sarah Palin in 2008. This time, the media caught a few of Biden's worst "malarkey" moments--as did his opponent, Paul Ryan, when he could get a word in edgewise.

Here are the top ten worst lies told by Biden during the debate:

Update - Honorable Mention: "There's not one Democrat who endorsed his...plan." Biden lied--as Ryan pointed out, amidst the Vice President's interruptions--about the fact that Ryan had worked with both Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon and former Clinton budget director Alice Rivlin in developing his entitlement reforms. While it's true that neither have endorsed the Romney-Ryan ticket's separate plan--which is different--Ryan's own plans, to which Biden referred, were endorsed by Democrats, and Biden knows it.

10. "With all due respect, that’s a bunch of malarkey....not a single thing he said is accurate." At the outset of the debate, Biden tried to paint Ryan as a liar--when Biden, in fact, was the one lying. Ryan had pointed out: 1) that the White House had distanced itself from the Cairo embassy's apologies on 9/11; 2) that Obama had failed to speak up for Iranian protestors in 2009; 3) that the Obama administration called Syria's dictator a "reformer"; 4) and that the Obama administration is imposing defense cuts and projecting weakness. All of that is true.

9. "The president has met with Bibi [Netanyahu] a dozen times....This is a bunch of stuff." While they have met several times--not a dozen--that includes a meeting at which Obama made the Israeli prime minister enter the White House through a back entrance, refused to take a picture with him, and left him on his own for dinner. Specifically, Ryan had criticized Obama's refusal to meet Netanyahu in New York last month, and to tape talk show interviews instead--a clear snub that sent the wrong signal, again, to Israel's enemies.

8. "Just let the taxes expire like they’re supposed to on those millionaires." Biden's "millionaires" are actually households earning more than $250,000 a year, which includes many middle-class families with two earners, and small business owners in particular who report business earnings as personal income. Biden and Obama have repeatedly labeled those earning over $250,000 as "millionaires and billionaires," distorting the actual impact of their tax plan on the non-millionaires it would hit hardest, who create a vast proportion of small business jobs.

7. "You know, I heard that death panel argument from Sarah Palin. It seems that every vice presidential debate, I hear this kind of stuff about panels." Biden's cheap shot against Palin was an attempt to diminish both her and the man sitting across from him. But Palin never talked about "death panels" in her debate with Biden, for the simple reason that Obamacare had not yet been proposed. Nor did Ryan mention "death panels"--he had addressed the undeniable fact that Obamacare proposes a board to impose cost controls.

6. "The congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for." Biden's lie about Ryan's budget was an attempt to dodge responsibility for lax embassy security--and to cover up that the Obama administration called for new cuts to embassy security just days after the 9/11 attacks. Ryan's proposal, which called for a 19% overall decrease in non-defense discretionary spending, does not even mention embassy security--the Obama campaign merely made up that number by applying 19% across the board.
imagine2011

Brentwood, TN

#13 Oct 12, 2012
5. "No, they are not four years closer to a nuclear weapon." Biden's attempt to lie about the glaring reality of the Iranian nuclear program fell flat. Iran is indeed four years closer to a nuclear weapon, and the Obama administration--believing it knew better than its predecessors--tried to reinvent the wheel on talks with Iran, causing frustration to our allies in Europe and the Middle East. Meeting after meeting this year has failed to produce results, and the loophole-filled sanctions, while hurting Iran somewhat, are not stopping its nuclear program.

4. "No religious institution, Catholic or otherwise...has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. That is a fact." No, it is not a fact--it is the opposite of a fact, and saying "that is a fact" does not make it any less a blatant lie. The Obama administration is forcing religious institutions to provide contraceptive and abortion drugs through their insurance policies. That is the reason several dozen religious institutions are suing the administration to defend their First Amendment freedom of religion.

3. "It came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card...I was there. I voted against him." Biden voted for both the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war. He did not vote for George W. Bush's plan to extend coverage of Medicare to prescription drugs (though he voted for an earlier, similar proposal), nor did he vote for the Bush tax cuts. But he voted for both of the wars he derided last night. To quote Bill Clinton's speech to the Democratic National Convention: "It takes some brass to attack a guy for doing what you did."

2. "What we did is we saved $716 billion and put it back -- applied it to Medicare." Biden repeated the lie the Obama administration has been telling since before Obamacare passed in 2010: that cuts to Medicare today were savings that extend the life of the program. They would be--if the same $716 billion wasn't also being used to pay for Obamacare. As Ryan pointed out in 2010, and again last night, you can't double-count the same cuts. Taking $716 billion out of Medicare means exactly that--and hurts, not helps, the program's solvency.

1. "Well, we weren’t told they wanted more security again." Biden lied through his teeth about the fact that the administration--specifically, the State Department--had been told again and again that security on the ground in Libya, and in Benghazi in particular, was inadequate. The day before, in Congressional hearings on the Libya attacks, former regional security director Eric Nordstrom described his frustration with having those requests turned down by the government bureaucracy: "For me the Taliban is on the inside of the building."
give it up

Vilonia, AR

#14 Oct 12, 2012
Cleavon Little wrote:
<quoted text>You didn't answer my question. For the funding measure to pass, the Senate and the president had to give their OKs as well. You do understand that, do you not?
I don't think you're smart enough to get it. The repubs proposed and pushed to cut money for embassy security and they got it. If you're looking for bad guys to blame then it's your own party.
Reality speaks

Columbus, OH

#15 Oct 12, 2012
This country is so divided, that maybe in the best interests of all, we divide into red and blue states.

2 Presidents, 2 tax systems paid only to color of region of residence. red or blue.

the military be funded and recognized by all to protect the entire country
The military bills each region $450,000,000 a year for the service provided.

every census year people vote as to which color blue or red for the state; and exit or entry of another state.

thoughts please

Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#16 Oct 12, 2012
give it up wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think you're smart enough to get it. The repubs proposed and pushed to cut money for embassy security and they got it. If you're looking for bad guys to blame then it's your own party.
No, you don't get it, moron. Spending originates in the House. The bill must then pass the Senate. If it does, it goes to the president for a signature or a veto.
Now, tell me again how I don't get it.

Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#17 Oct 12, 2012
Reality speaks wrote:
This country is so divided, that maybe in the best interests of all, we divide into red and blue states.
2 Presidents, 2 tax systems paid only to color of region of residence. red or blue.
the military be funded and recognized by all to protect the entire country
The military bills each region $450,000,000 a year for the service provided.
every census year people vote as to which color blue or red for the state; and exit or entry of another state.
thoughts please
We're way past that. It's time for two NATIONS. If it can't be peacefully negotiated, civil war is in our kids future.
imagine2011

Brentwood, TN

#18 Oct 12, 2012
Cleavon Little wrote:
<quoted text>No, you don't get it, moron. Spending originates in the House. The bill must then pass the Senate. If it does, it goes to the president for a signature or a veto.
Now, tell me again how I don't get it.
The Senate is Democrat controlled as well as the Presidency, so the last two sections to sign and approve this bill are majority DEMOCRAT.
imagine2011

Brentwood, TN

#19 Oct 12, 2012
Reality speaks wrote:
This country is so divided, that maybe in the best interests of all, we divide into red and blue states.
2 Presidents, 2 tax systems paid only to color of region of residence. red or blue.
the military be funded and recognized by all to protect the entire country
The military bills each region $450,000,000 a year for the service provided.
every census year people vote as to which color blue or red for the state; and exit or entry of another state.
thoughts please
"Hopelessly" divided.

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