Mark Steyn: Secession is coming

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Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Is that why Canada is so desperate to get the Keystone Pipeline?
Canada wants to move its oil from the Oil Sands region. They're going to sell it to China, now. Your boy saw to that.
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<quoted text>Canada wants to move its oil from the Oil Sands region. They're going to sell it to China, now. Your boy saw to that.
That's why they need the pipeline. To get it to the Gulf to sell to China.

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Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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That's why they need the pipeline. To get it to the Gulf to sell to China.
Pipeline, UR excited huh

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That's why they need the pipeline. To get it to the Gulf to sell to China.
Che, you're lost...again. It's going to refineries in the Gulf, and that's just in Phase 3.

Do you even realize that two of the four phases are already complete?

The operational Keystone Pipeline system currently has the capacity to deliver up to 590,000 barrels per day (94,000 m3/d) of Canadian crude oil into the Mid-West refining markets.[4] In the summer of 2010 Phase 1 of the Keystone Pipeline was completed, delivering crude oil from Hardisty, Alberta to Steele City, Nebraska, and then east through Missouri to Wood River refineries and Patoka, Illinois. Phase 2 the Keystone-Cushing extension was completed in February 2011 with the pipeline from Steele City, Nebraska to storage and distribution facilities at Cushing, Oklahoma, a major crude oil marketing/refining and pipeline hub.[4]

Phase 3

This phase, known as Cushing MarketLink, is part of the Keystone XL pipeline. This proposed phase would start from Cushing, Oklahoma where American-produced oil would be added to the pipeline, then it would expand 435 miles (700 km) to a delivery point near terminals in Nederland, Texas to serve the Port Arthur, Texas marketplace.[1]

Also proposed is an approximate 47 miles (76 km) previous pipeline to transport crude oil from the pipeline in Liberty County, Texas to the Houston, Texas area.[1][39] Oil producers in the USA are pushing for this phase so the glut of oil can be distributed out of the large oil tank farms and distribution center in Cushing, Oklahoma.
Phase 4

This phase is part of the Keystone XL pipeline and would start from the same area in Alberta, Canada as the main pipeline.[11] The Canadian section would consist of 526 kilometres (327 mi) of new pipeline.[23] It would enter the United States at Morgan, Montana and travel through Baker, Montana where American-produced oil would be added to the pipeline, then it would travel through South Dakota and Nebraska, where it would join the existing Keystone pipelines at Steele City, Nebraska.[1]

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That's why they need the pipeline. To get it to the Gulf to sell to China.
And Che...if the goal were to sell Alberta oil to China, then why would you build a pipeline to the Texas Gulf then load supertankers which would have to sail across the Gulf, into the Atlantic around Cape Horn and across the breadth AND length of the Pacific when you could simply build a pipeline across BC to the Pacific?

You aren't too bright.

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All aboard!
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May 17, 2013
 
Nuthin like a good secession tale, I always say.

woof
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<quoted text>And Che...if the goal were to sell Alberta oil to China, then why would you build a pipeline to the Texas Gulf then load supertankers which would have to sail across the Gulf, into the Atlantic around Cape Horn and across the breadth AND length of the Pacific when you could simply build a pipeline across BC to the Pacific?
You aren't too bright.
You would think, being Canadian, you would know about this.

Is Canadian Oil Bound for China Via Pipeline to Texas?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energ...

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Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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You would think, being Canadian, you would know about this.
Is Canadian Oil Bound for China Via Pipeline to Texas?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energ...
HAHAHAHAHA

hey 0.0

get back when you understand economics 101 OK

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You would think, being Canadian, you would know about this.
Is Canadian Oil Bound for China Via Pipeline to Texas?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energ...
All I see is an tree-hugger who is as stupid as you are with baseless speculation:

Opponents contend instead that the pipeline's petroleum could largely bypass the American markets and be shipped to Asia.

"This is all about taking the oil that's coming into the Midwest and moving it down to the Gulf Coast, where they have access to China and other markets," the National Wildlife Federation's Jeremy Symons told Congress this summer.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energ...

No way is Alberta oil going to be shipped 20,000 miles rather than 5000 miles, kid.

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#1 Loss of various US government subsidies (Medicaid, Food Stamps) to support the underpaid workers.
#2 Immediate instability from the loss of US government border support--massive incursions of Mexican drug lords using Texas as a new launching point for export as well as use of agricultural land for production.
#3 How many US companies openly violate the Cuban embargo, despite the potential market for US made goods?
#4 Years of infighting as various groups vie for control of the new government.
1. Most of that demographic votes D, the new government would be trying to get rid of them by economic pressure. Blue states would get the "refgee problem"

2. The people of Texas are the best armed civilian population anywhere, the executive would call forth the militia.

3. Most foreign companies do violate the embargo

4. Bring it

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PS we are still pissed off at Cuba 50 years after Castro took over. Do you really think we would make it easy for companies to do business with the United States if they are located in NE state that seceded? Yep they would have to move and Texas would be just as impoverished as Cuba is 50 years from now
If the interior red states secede, they take with them most of the nukes.

Would the feds kill tens of millions of people to stop it?

Perhaps they would, after all the victims would be white.

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1. Most of that demographic votes D, the new government would be trying to get rid of them by economic pressure. Blue states would get the "refgee problem"
2. The people of Texas are the best armed civilian population anywhere, the executive would call forth the militia.
3. Most foreign companies do violate the embargo
4. Bring it
When the underpaid workers cannot survive they will die off or leave. Those subsidies benefit the folks who hire at artificially deflated wages.

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That's why they need the pipeline. To get it to the Gulf to sell to China.
He knows that for a fact! The only people that will reap hugely are those Conservatives who's positioning to buy stock.

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When the underpaid workers cannot survive they will die off or leave. Those subsidies benefit the folks who hire at artificially deflated wages.
Yes, that would be the goal. That's the D voters right there, the blue states would get the refugee problem.

A fitting reversal of the Californication of the Western states.

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<quoted text>And Che...if the goal were to sell Alberta oil to China, then why would you build a pipeline to the Texas Gulf then load supertankers which would have to sail across the Gulf, into the Atlantic around Cape Horn and across the breadth AND length of the Pacific when you could simply build a pipeline across BC to the Pacific?
You aren't too bright.
#1. The cost #2. Crossing Indian lands that's protected.#3. Cost of infrastructure on the BC government .

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WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text>#1. The cost #2. Crossing Indian lands that's protected.#3. Cost of infrastructure on the BC government .
Everyone wants a cut...that's all the disputes is about. And it's plenty cheaper to pay off the extortionists to build the Enbridge pipeline than it is to ship oil 20,000 miles.

EDMONTON - Premier Alison Redford won’t say if she will negotiate with British Columbia over Premier Christy Clark’s demands for a “fair share” of economic benefits flowing from new pipelines to the Pacific.

B.C. voters re-elected Clark’s Liberals to a surprise majority government in Tuesday’s provincial elections, reopening the debate about how the two provinces will break an impasse over construction of pipeline projects.

The relationship between Alberta and B.C. cooled last summer after Clark rebuked Redford’s Canadian Energy Strategy and laid out five conditions to secure B.C.’s support for new pipelines. In addition to a fair share of the economic benefits from the pipeline, Clark said any project must also have a top-notch oil spill response strategy for both water and land and be of benefit to B.C.’s aboriginal communities.

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1. Most of that demographic votes D, the new government would be trying to get rid of them by economic pressure. Blue states would get the "refgee problem"
2. The people of Texas are the best armed civilian population anywhere, the executive would call forth the militia.
3. Most foreign companies do violate the embargo
4. Bring it
Yep, the Mexican drug organizations are well armed, and don't forget about the MS13's who are former El Salvadorian army soldiers, who joined the Cartels. Texas would be a real third world hell hole.

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<quoted text> Yep, the Mexican drug organizations are well armed, and don't forget about the MS13's who are former El Salvadorian army soldiers, who joined the Cartels. Texas would be a real third world hell hole.
No, it wouldn't because Texans would enforce the laws, including defending their border with Mexico. Think gunships and guard towers.

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<quoted text> Yep, the Mexican drug organizations are well armed, and don't forget about the MS13's who are former El Salvadorian army soldiers, who joined the Cartels. Texas would be a real third world hell hole.
Note the military hardware in Texas, the Occupier ain't getting all of it in a split.

President Perry of the "New Confederacy" would call forth the militia and clean up the cartels.

Born.from.fighters.

Cartel gunmen have never faced a real army, and if they cower before Mexican militias armed with hunting rifles, just wait til they meet the Texas good ol' boys with AR-15s.

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