Mark Steyn: Secession is coming

Since: Jan 12

Ostrander, OH

#370 May 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>An independent California would be a third world nation after being abandoned by those with wealth and being overrun by Mexicans.
As for you remarks about Bush, your stupidity is noted.
So you're implying that people not from euro nations are inept and need whites to do anything good. You people need to grow up and return the stolen wealth and land so the people can be prosperous and free to determine their own lives. You people need to grow up.

Since: Jan 12

Ostrander, OH

#371 May 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>This is why you people will never be taken seriously...you think EVERY black has to be the same politically, socially and economically UNLESS they're an "entertainer" or an athlete.
You people need to grow up.
No, Bunker, it's your ilk who thinks poor blacks are no earthly good because they don't enjoy the standard of living most whites enjoy.

Politics aside, I doubt if any of your fellow ultra right wing 'patriots,' would ask who's a Conservative or Liberal if an armed assualt was waged against the urbanites in an attempt to 'take out the trash ' as you call it.

Minus a 3.1 from Colby and a 80k salary, liberal blacks are a burden for you 'good Conservatives'.

Since: Apr 13

Columbus, OH

#372 May 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>There you go again.
I don't recall Carter and Johnson as GOP presidents.
Who'd Carter get killed? I will never take Johnson's side but since him, it's Republicans who get the most of us killed for the dumbest reasons.

Since: Apr 13

Columbus, OH

#373 May 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Desert One, dummy. April 25, 1980. They didn't have enough aircraft at the start and they knew it.
So, if Bush is Hoover, then isn't Clinton Coolidge?
He did sign the Gramm, Leach, Bliley act so yes, he is culpable to some extent. He did get the budget in order and jobs were being created. Jobs were being lost at a huge rate at the end of Coolidge's term and union membership was down hugely.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#374 May 23, 2013
WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> So you're implying that people not from euro nations are inept and need whites to do anything good. You people need to grow up and return the stolen wealth and land so the people can be prosperous and free to determine their own lives. You people need to grow up.
OK, black man...we'll drop you in East LA and you can buddy up to MS 13.
They loooooove you people...to death.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#375 May 23, 2013
St of Circumstance wrote:
<quoted text>
Who'd Carter get killed? I will never take Johnson's side but since him, it's Republicans who get the most of us killed for the dumbest reasons.
The eight men who died in Iran on 25 April 1980 died because of Carter's bungling.
Unlike this current disgrace, Carter was a man of honor who took full responsibility.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#376 May 23, 2013
St of Circumstance wrote:
<quoted text>
He did sign the Gramm, Leach, Bliley act so yes, he is culpable to some extent. He did get the budget in order and jobs were being created. Jobs were being lost at a huge rate at the end of Coolidge's term and union membership was down hugely.
Ever read about Coolidge as governor of Massachusetts? There's a reason he wasn't fond of unions.

Since: Apr 13

Columbus, OH

#377 May 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>I gave you Bush's numbers. Five eighths of 8000 is not 8000.
Nixon wasn't impeached. Were you stoned during Watergate?
BTW, are you aware of the entire story of Hillary and Watergate?
How is Bush only responsible for 5/8's of the 100% that died at his hands or left to die after he left a war or two unfinished? His dad knew how to end a war. The little shrub is the new Johnson/Hoover combined.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#378 May 23, 2013
St of Circumstance wrote:
<quoted text>
How is Bush only responsible for 5/8's of the 100% that died at his hands or left to die after he left a war or two unfinished? His dad knew how to end a war. The little shrub is the new Johnson/Hoover combined.
Afghanistan body count under Bush: 630 (in 88 months)
Under Obama: 1506 (in 52 months)

Since: Apr 13

Columbus, OH

#379 May 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>The eight men who died in Iran on 25 April 1980 died because of Carter's bungling.
Unlike this current disgrace, Carter was a man of honor who took full responsibility.
See, that's how you think, 240 marines get blown up under Reagan and very poor security planning and you let that go. 3,000 die in the WTC when Bush ignored a briefing and left the VP in charge and it's their fault.

I know almost to a tee what happened with Carter's attempt, it was partial sabotage and partial bad luck, and that's from some who were on the ground when it occurred.

You will never blame a neocon for anything, will you?

Since: Apr 13

Columbus, OH

#380 May 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Ever read about Coolidge as governor of Massachusetts? There's a reason he wasn't fond of unions.
It doesn't matter, unions, when kept in check, are a great service and protection for workers. Coolidge failed Americans overall by focusing on the wrong class. Just as Romney spoke of the 47%, the policies of his, which were continued under Hoover lead to a meltdown.

If you can't see that, than you are blind beyond comprehension.

A rising tide lifts all boats.

When you structure the tide to only lift a few, well, disaster is soon to follow.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#381 May 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text> Afghanistan body count under Bush: 630 (in 88 months)
Under Obama: 1506 (in 52 months)
And the saddest thing is, I believe the number of military personnel who have died stateside either through accident or crime exceeds both of those numbers.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#382 May 23, 2013
St of Circumstance wrote:
<quoted text>
See, that's how you think, 240 marines get blown up under Reagan and very poor security planning and you let that go. 3,000 die in the WTC when Bush ignored a briefing and left the VP in charge and it's their fault.
I know almost to a tee what happened with Carter's attempt, it was partial sabotage and partial bad luck, and that's from some who were on the ground when it occurred.
You will never blame a neocon for anything, will you?
Nobody is letting anybody go. You bash Reagan and Bush while at the same time refusing to admit that Carter, Clinton and Obama screwed up.
You want things to your way only...the leftist way.

BTW, neo-con is code for "Jew," or if a Christian, "Christian Zionist."
Bob would appreciate your attitude.

Since: Apr 13

Columbus, OH

#383 May 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text> Afghanistan body count under Bush: 630 (in 88 months)
Under Obama: 1506 (in 52 months)
In 88 months, after giving Osama a 3 month headstart and allowing most of the Taliban to cross over into Pakistan, um, poor Commander-in-Chiefing.

Had Bush approached Afghanistan the way his father approached Kuwait, well, different story.

Obama gets high marks for getting Osama and the deaths there under him are from his action to actually fight the war and not strut around.

Those are Bush's casualties.
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#384 May 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text> Afghanistan body count under Bush: 630 (in 88 months)
Under Obama: 1506 (in 52 months)
Tell us more, Georgie girl.

How many American deaths in Iraq under Bush, and how many under President Obama?

How many deaths in America by Islamic terrorists under Bush, and how many under President Obama?

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#385 May 23, 2013
St of Circumstance wrote:
<quoted text>
It doesn't matter, unions, when kept in check, are a great service and protection for workers. Coolidge failed Americans overall by focusing on the wrong class. Just as Romney spoke of the 47%, the policies of his, which were continued under Hoover lead to a meltdown.
If you can't see that, than you are blind beyond comprehension.
A rising tide lifts all boats.
When you structure the tide to only lift a few, well, disaster is soon to follow.
So, you never knew about the Boston Police strike of 1919.
Public sector unions are unnecessary and work against the public.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#386 May 23, 2013
Big Johnson wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell us more, Georgie girl.
How many American deaths in Iraq under Bush, and how many under President Obama?
How many deaths in America by Islamic terrorists under Bush, and how many under President Obama?
The Iraq War was over a year and a half after Obama took over.
Clinton is responsible for 9/11.

Deaths after 9/11...

Bush (88 months): 27
Obama (52 months): 22

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#387 May 23, 2013
St of Circumstance wrote:
<quoted text>
In 88 months, after giving Osama a 3 month headstart and allowing most of the Taliban to cross over into Pakistan, um, poor Commander-in-Chiefing.
Had Bush approached Afghanistan the way his father approached Kuwait, well, different story.
Obama gets high marks for getting Osama and the deaths there under him are from his action to actually fight the war and not strut around.
Those are Bush's casualties.
A three month head start?

Time between September 11, 2001 and October 7, 2001: 26 DAYS.

If Obama 'got' bin Laden, then Clinton is responsible for dropping the 9/11 ball.

And what of Extortion 17?

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#388 May 23, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
And the saddest thing is, I believe the number of military personnel who have died stateside either through accident or crime exceeds both of those numbers.
Certainly by suicide.
Big Johnson

Columbus, OH

#389 May 23, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>The Iraq War was over a year and a half after Obama took over.
Clinton is responsible for 9/11.
Deaths after 9/11...
Bush (88 months): 27
Obama (52 months): 22
I knew I could count on you. That Clinton!

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