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Enzyte Bob

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Sep 30, 2013
 
Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>Like Bob said, without her, McCain was heading for Dole numbers. And she was a better pick than Joe Biden, who has embarrassed his boss and the American people too many times to count. That man is mentally ill. She was also a better pick than Dan Quayle, a guy I like personally, but a true airhead who should have become a PGA Tour golfer.
Again, we get into this issue of how do you define the word smart? There are so many different kinds of intelligence and so many different factors.

I would put Palin in the same category as Barry intellectually, as both are smart in the talking category. I don't think they're that smart or curious intellectually otherwise. In other words, they both excel as performers, though both are too boring for TV.

The big difference between the two, however, is that Palin has her ear to the ground more real world. Her husband runs a business, and she at least has some idea how stuff gets to point B from point A. That's why the stuff she says resonates so well with middle America, even if she wouldn't be the right person as President.

I still say Sarah Palin is a small market TV personality. Barry would be a black gay Ron Burgandy. They're out of their depth when they get too far removed from those jobs.

I see Dan Qualye as a tad smarter than either of those two. He has a law degree and has been around high-level dinner table discussions his entire life. He was on the board of his family's newspapers. The family dumped both the Phoenix and the Indianapolis paper to Gannett for top dollar before the newspaper business tanked so he can't be that stupid. He was smarter than the Wolfes and the Grahams and the Sulzbergers.

Quayle does look like your local bank VP or somebody high level who sells big, expensive machines for GE. But that shouldn't fool anybody.

I put W. Bush, Poppy and Jeb in the same category as Quayle intellectually, but their talent lies in politics. I'm not so sure they're such whizzes when it comes to business, but you never know what those people still own. Bush's family had Buckeye Steel and Barbara's family had textile mills. I'm sure the family fortune is still there.

I think their skill set with the Quayles and the Bush;s is fine. The thing is though, all of them grew up with a silver spoon. Nothing wrong with that, as I wouldn't mind having one myself. Trouble is that they don't really have a lot of experience living the life of the little guy. While that may be overrated, it is one reason Clinton was able to connect with people and they weren't.

Palin had the right talk and the right pulse of what people care about. Trouble is, she is a lightweight and didn't have the temperament.(I would never vote for a bitchy woman just on principle.) Too bad, because she absolutely does say the right things.
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Oh I totally agree. Obama won the election based on the charisma
Be careful when you say this, because I don't see the charisma. I see a guy who is actually kind of boring when he speaks, not to mention that he neither resonates with anybody nor does he know the subject matter well enough to impress. He just thinks he can talk and things get done.

I think he definitely was the beneficiary of white elites too in competition with each other to show off who had the most white guilt.

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Sep 30, 2013
 
Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Be careful when you say this, because I don't see the charisma. I see a guy who is actually kind of boring when he speaks, not to mention that he neither resonates with anybody nor does he know the subject matter well enough to impress. He just thinks he can talk and things get done.
I think he definitely was the beneficiary of white elites too in competition with each other to show off who had the most white guilt.
Understand what you're saying. What I mean by charisma is that the democrats used in similarly the way McCain used Palin. He was the right guy at the right time, and he was able to use his youth, race, and liberal politics combined with the right words ("hope and change") at the right moments. He can't work without a teleprompter, but he was also obviously well-coached and well-managed by the DMC.

I totally agree with your statement that he was the beneficiary of white elitists.

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Again, we get into this issue of how do you define the word smart? There are so many different kinds of intelligence and so many different factors.
I've been saying this for years. You can have a sky high IQ but be dumb as a rock emotionally and people-wise. I don't think Palin had much going for her intellectually or emotionally. She didn't have the guts of steel someone needs in that role. She did have the "people" factor in that she is able to relate well to specific segments of the population, but not to those outside of her scope of influence (white redneck or middle aged men and grandmas). Just the way I saw it.
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Palin has her ear to the ground more real world. Her husband runs a business, and she at least has some idea how stuff gets to point B from point A. That's why the stuff she says resonates so well with middle America, even if she wouldn't be the right person as President.
I'm not sure about that. She really doesn't have her "ear to the ground" when it comes to anything outside her scope of experience. I doubt she would be great when it comes to foreign diplomacy or being understanding to the problems of urban violence. She's too far removed and never exposed to that.
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Trouble is, she is a lightweight and didn't have the temperament.(I would never vote for a bitchy woman just on principle.) Too bad, because she absolutely does say the right things.
We agree about the temperament issue, but not the SAME temperament issue. I don't think Palin could be a big enough bitch in honesty to be a good politician. It's how Hillary got where she is, it's how Maggie Thatcher got as far as she did. When women are viewed as sexy, it doesn't bode well for them politically. When women are viewed primarily as mothers, it doesn't bode well for them politically... Bitchy doesn't necessarily mean impolite or nasty a la Che, it does mean having the guts and nerves of steel to be able to see beyond your limited personal interests (and I think that was Palin's downfall) and be able to push for and support an agenda that is good politically, even if it is not immediately popular.(Thatcher was totally able to do that, why she got the name "Iron Lady"--she was uncompromising with the values she set forth.)
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Sep 30, 2013
 
Enzyte Bob wrote: "Quayle does look like your local bank VP or somebody high level who sells big, expensive machines for GE. But that shouldn't fool anybody."

animal control responds: Dan Quayle joined Cerberus Capital Management in 1999 and is chairman of the company's Global Investments Division.

Cerberus is named for the mythological three-headed dog and has more than US$20 billion under management in funds and accounts, Cerberus and about 100 other investors purchased an 80% stake in Chrysler for $7.4 billion in 2007.

Cerberus Acquired Bushmaster Firearms, Inc., from Windham, Maine native Dick Dyke for an undisclosed sum in April 2006, and purchased Remington Arms in April 2007. Under Cerberus direction, Bushmaster Firearms acquired Cobb Manufacturing, a manufacturer of large-caliber tactical rifles in August 2007. Cerberus also acquired DPMS Panther Arms December 14, 2007. Remington Arms acquired Marlin Firearms in January 2008. In October 2009, Remington Military products acquired silencer manufacturer Advanced Armament Corporation. These companies were combined into the Freedom Group.

Cerberus acquired 51 percent of GMAC, General Motors' finance arm, in 2006 for $7.4 billion.

also acquired bankrupt ANC Rental, then owner of the National and Alamo car rental chains, for $230 million in October 2003 and subsequently sold to Enterprise Rent-a-Car in 2007.[35] Purchased DaimlerChrysler's 45% share of debis AirFinance, an aircraft leasing business, in May 2005. Acquisition of debis AirFinance (later renamed AerCap) was completed in July 2005. AerCap completed its IPO in 2006. Cerberus also acquired North American Bus Industries, Optima Bus Corporation, and Blue Bird Corp. in the bus manufacturing sector.(Cerberus sold its commercial bus manufacturing assets to New Flyer Industries in 2013 but retained the Blue Bird school bus production line.)

Cerberus purchased 655 of the 2,500 Albertson's, Inc., grocery stores, forming Albertsons LLC of Boise, Idaho, in June 2006.

The company acquired MeadWestvaco's paper business for $2.3B in 2005 and renamed it NewPage. Cerberus also purchased, from Georgia Pacific Corporation, its Distribution Division/Building Products and all of its associated real estate. It renamed this new company BlueLinx Holdings, based in Atlanta.

http://www.cerberuscapital.com/

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Oct 1, 2013
 
One writes Cruz will have to denounce his Canadian citizenship in order to qualify to run for president.
Another writes simple paperwork will take care of his dual citizenship.
Excuse me, where was the gentleman born?

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Oct 1, 2013
 
dunadd wrote:
One writes Cruz will have to denounce his Canadian citizenship in order to qualify to run for president.
Another writes simple paperwork will take care of his dual citizenship.
Excuse me, where was the gentleman born?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz

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Oct 1, 2013
 
dunadd wrote:
One writes Cruz will have to denounce his Canadian citizenship in order to qualify to run for president.
Another writes simple paperwork will take care of his dual citizenship.
Excuse me, where was the gentleman born?
Calgary, to a US citizen mother.
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Oct 1, 2013
 
Being fast with my fingers and quick on my mind, I found the info I needed.
This gentleman born in Calgary, Alberta, having an American mother is similar to John McCain born in Canal Zone, which I know at the time was US property, and the present el chiefo born in Mombassa of an American mother. Why would Ted Cruz have to give up his dual citizenship to become president of the states?
If one wants to get technical which they didn't in 08 or 12, the first few presidents were born in the British colonies.
Realising this is before American history and even the US existed, it can still apply.
But being the past is neither here nor there, the present el chiefo was allowed to run but acknowledging he ran as a Democrat, is this not a case of dualism, different sets of rules for different people. The present el chiefo has an American mother as does Ted Cruz.
I have a marvelous idea. Let's do away with the Constitution and make up the rules for each individual. Has that idea already been taken, been applied?
Present el chiefo can run on his citizenship, Ted Cruz can't, why not nominate Arnold Schwarzenegger on the Democrat ticket and run as president. Hurry given Arnie his American citizenship so he can run as a Democrat.
Ted Cruz born in Calgary, Alberta of an American mother and he has to surrender his one half of dual citizenship. This country's politics is nuts.
Question-which i'll prolly find the answer myself, did Winston Churchill's mother cause Winnie to have dual citizenship? Don't fret folks I already know the answer. I just wanted to know if who else does.
Highlander forever!
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Oct 1, 2013
 
Thanks good people for alerting me. I had looked at it. But am going to study his life and career because what little bit I know of him I like the gentleman.
Again, thanks

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Oct 1, 2013
 
This is is argument that will be used (successfully, IMO) if Cruz runs for president:

Anyone who is a citizen at birth — as opposed to someone who becomes a citizen later (“naturalizes”) or who isn’t a citizen at all — can be president.

So the one remaining question is whether Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth. That’s an easy one. The Nationality Act of 1940 outlines which children become “nationals and citizens of the United States at birth.” In addition to those who are born in the United States or born outside the country to parents who were both citizens — or, interestingly, found in the United States without parents and no proof of birth elsewhere — citizenship goes to babies born to one American parent who has spent a certain number of years here.

That single-parent requirement has been amended several times, but under the law in effect between 1952 and 1986 — Cruz was born in 1970 — someone must have a citizen parent who resided in the United States for at least 10 years, including five after the age of 14, in order to be considered a natural-born citizen. Cruz’s mother, Eleanor Darragh, was born in Delaware, lived most of her life in the United States, and gave birth to little Rafael Edward Cruz in her 30s. Q.E.D.

So why all the brouhaha about where Obama was born, given that there’s no dispute that his mother, Ann Dunham, was a citizen? Because his mother was 18 when she gave birth to the future president in 1961 and so couldn’t have met the 5-year-post-age-14 residency requirement. Had Obama been born a year later, it wouldn’t have mattered whether that birth took place in Hawaii, Kenya, Indonesia, or anywhere else.(For those born since 1986, by the way, the single citizen parent must have only resided here for five years, at least two of which must be after the age of 14.)
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/y...

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Enzyte Bob wrote:
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Christie is a flash in the pan. I supported him up until he went neocon recently. Whatever anybody thinks about foreign intervention, it's time to call a "time out" right now. If Christie doesn't have his pulse on that, that means he probably doesn't have his pulse on a lot of other things either. As much as I pick on Palin, she captures the pulse of mainstream America almost 100%
For that matter, Cruz might also be a flash in the pan. I would like to have seen some more administrative experience, but then again the last two presidents haven't had any either.
Rand Paul, however, is the stealth candidate who is going places. People are so wussie these days, they won't vote for someone they don't perceive as being "nice". He didn't sound so nice to me in a recent magazine interview, until his wife came around to take some of the edge off, but they say he's a nice guy and that's what people want.
I like Paul because just about everybody says he's not in it for himself. We need more people like him. He might only make it to VP because he does seem kind of goofy on TV, but there is still a place for him.
Maybe that's what it's going to take at this point. Someone who has no interest in money or power and can't be bought off.
The lemmings on the Right are for the most part lock- step automatons when the drums for war are beat. They don't care about the "real reason" war is being declared, as long as they're in the fog of being a 'patriot' and "supporting our troops" mantra, the dummies will follow a politician off a cliff not realizing HE has a parachute and they do not.
Cruz talks a good game but he's dry and too "lawyer like" for the liking of Independents and "modern Republicans". They're looking for a firebrand that can go toe- to- toe with any potential Democrat like Hillary. Also, they're looking for a smart strategist and a fiscal hawk. The Republican party has no one with those combinations as of yet.
Paul looks too funny and he's to "protectionist" and ultra freedom (drugs, prostitution, porn) for soccer moms in the suburbs.

America's love affair with Hollywood "movie star" looks and style, along with 'confident swag' is what the changing demographic likes best.

I don't see any Republicans that can make the case! It's even worse for them now because of attacking the ACA with such relentless vigor.

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dunadd wrote:
Question-which i'll prolly find the answer myself, did Winston Churchill's mother cause Winnie to have dual citizenship? Don't fret folks I already know the answer. I just wanted to know if who else does.
Highlander forever!
sincerely,
dunadd
Dual citizenship was not a recognized status at the time of Churchill's birth.

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<quoted text>Calgary, to a US citizen mother.
We demand to see his 'Long Form', medical and dental records, credit rating score, his college transcript and any articles or papers he wrote on Constitutional matters . We want to know if he pledged to a "secret society" frat. We want to know if he's ever ate green eggs and ham!
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as long as Ophara will vouch for ya',
you don't need any birth record to run for prez in americha'.....Baby!

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WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> We demand to see his 'Long Form', medical and dental records, credit rating score, his college transcript and any articles or papers he wrote on Constitutional matters . We want to know if he pledged to a "secret society" frat. We want to know if he's ever ate green eggs and ham!
I'm betting Cruz would supply all of that information.
What's your boy's excuse?
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WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text>The lemmings on the Right are for the most part lock- step automatons when the drums for war are beat. They don't care about the "real reason" war is being declared, as long as they're in the fog of being a 'patriot' and "supporting our troops" mantra, the dummies will follow a politician off a cliff not realizing HE has a parachute and they do not.
Cruz talks a good game but he's dry and too "lawyer like" for the liking of Independents and "modern Republicans". They're looking for a firebrand that can go toe- to- toe with any potential Democrat like Hillary. Also, they're looking for a smart strategist and a fiscal hawk. The Republican party has no one with those combinations as of yet.
Paul looks too funny and he's to "protectionist" and ultra freedom (drugs, prostitution, porn) for soccer moms in the suburbs.
America's love affair with Hollywood "movie star" looks and style, along with 'confident swag' is what the changing demographic likes best.
I don't see any Republicans that can make the case! It's even worse for them now because of attacking the ACA with such relentless vigor.
In support of our troops, it is time they vacate the middle east completely.
we are putting men and women in harms way.
bring them home to clean up our cities like Chicago.

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Diamond Eugene wrote:
This is is argument that will be used (successfully, IMO) if Cruz runs for president:
Anyone who is a citizen at birth — as opposed to someone who becomes a citizen later (“naturalizes”) or who isn’t a citizen at all — can be president.
So the one remaining question is whether Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth. That’s an easy one. The Nationality Act of 1940 outlines which children become “nationals and citizens of the United States at birth.” In addition to those who are born in the United States or born outside the country to parents who were both citizens — or, interestingly, found in the United States without parents and no proof of birth elsewhere — citizenship goes to babies born to one American parent who has spent a certain number of years here.
That single-parent requirement has been amended several times, but under the law in effect between 1952 and 1986 — Cruz was born in 1970 — someone must have a citizen parent who resided in the United States for at least 10 years, including five after the age of 14, in order to be considered a natural-born citizen. Cruz’s mother, Eleanor Darragh, was born in Delaware, lived most of her life in the United States, and gave birth to little Rafael Edward Cruz in her 30s. Q.E.D.
So why all the brouhaha about where Obama was born, given that there’s no dispute that his mother, Ann Dunham, was a citizen? Because his mother was 18 when she gave birth to the future president in 1961 and so couldn’t have met the 5-year-post-age-14 residency requirement. Had Obama been born a year later, it wouldn’t have mattered whether that birth took place in Hawaii, Kenya, Indonesia, or anywhere else.(For those born since 1986, by the way, the single citizen parent must have only resided here for five years, at least two of which must be after the age of 14.)
http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/y...
Why doesn't Ed use his first name- Raaafael instead of his middle "European" name, huh? Was Rafael ashamed to use his Latino first name for fear of being haggled by his white peers in grade school and college?!
Is little Rafael ashamed of his Mexican heritage? I would believe he is, or was.
He's just another fake ass wannabe who's ashamed of his roots and wants to be king of the US to rub it in the faces of all those hostile whites who castigated him as a child. Look at him, he purposely avoids the sun so he can look as pale as possible. Really sad.

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Diamond Eugene wrote:
<quoted text>I'm betting Cruz would supply all of that information.
What's your boy's excuse?
Asked the hospital in Nairobi.

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WISE AMERICAN wrote:
<quoted text> Why doesn't Ed use his first name- Raaafael instead of his middle "European" name, huh? Was Rafael ashamed to use his Latino first name for fear of being haggled by his white peers in grade school and college?!
Is little Rafael ashamed of his Mexican heritage? I would believe he is, or was.
He's just another fake ass wannabe who's ashamed of his roots and wants to be king of the US to rub it in the faces of all those hostile whites who castigated him as a child. Look at him, he purposely avoids the sun so he can look as pale as possible. Really sad.
Or, his family did what a lot of families do when the father and son have the SAME first name, you moronic racist.

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