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Mar 9, 2013
 
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Sounds good on paper, doesn't it? By "comprehensive gynecological coverage" did she mean free birth control? If so, that is one of the many reasons why premiums are going up in 2014 - allowed by law, as long as it covers expenses.
I must say that I ain't young and I have never, ever had an insurance company deny GYN care.
Agreed. OB/GYNs are typically considered primary care physicians. In all my years, I have NEVER had any gyn care denied or uncovered. Gynecologists are gateway docs for many women to other services.

The free birth control--that with no copay--is nonsense. No one was preventing women's access to it prior. Can I claim there is limited access to other necessary meds such as blood pressure meds, chemo, insulin, Synthroid, or other needed maintenance meds because there is a required copay? I don't have any heartburn paying a copay for any of these--and all are as expensive, sometimes much more expensive, as birth control.

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Disagree. I reviewed many posts of yours on the subject and never once did you show compassion for the woman. Instead, you focused on excusing those who committed the crime.
As far as political instability, I believe you were all for this new democracy in Egypt, were you not?
In her defense, I was duped by the MSM into thinking that the MB wasn't that popular and that democracy would lead to peace with Israel.

Should have listened to Thad McCotter instead.

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No, Karl.

There is nothing in any of those remotely resembling a belief that all Republicans (or even SOME Republicans) support rape.

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Sounds good on paper, doesn't it? By "comprehensive gynecological coverage" did she mean free birth control? If so, that is one of the many reasons why premiums are going up in 2014 - allowed by law, as long as it covers expenses.
I must say that I ain't young and I have never, ever had an insurance company deny GYN care.
Your insurance was probably never provided by an institution trying to make a public statement about contraception.

But, contraceptive coverage doesn't generally make rates go up--just the opposite. That's why insurance companies are willing to pick it up for church-related institutions with conscientious objections.
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Mar 9, 2013
 
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George, you are full of it.
Frankly I don't know anyone who brushes off Lara Logan's gang rape.
I, however, do balk when her rape is used as proof of some massive rape epidemic by Muslims in Scandinavia, however.
The Muslim rape in Scandanavia has been well documented as was Lora Logan's rape. White females are under assault to keep them from procreating the next generation of the culture that has done more than all cultures combined to promote Christianity, peace and the Great Commission of Jesus to take the gospel to the entire world. That is why men like Obama hate real sexually moral Christianity.
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Your insurance was probably never provided by an institution trying to make a public statement about contraception.
But, contraceptive coverage doesn't generally make rates go up--just the opposite. That's why insurance companies are willing to pick it up for church-related institutions with conscientious objections.
Seriously, Reader? For someone so knowledgeable about the health reform, do you deny that premiums will be increased due to those freebies?

Meanwhile, this is a hoot:

Donna Brazile wonders: Why are my health-care premiums going up?

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/27/donna-b...

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No, Karl.
There is nothing in any of those remotely resembling a belief that all Republicans (or even SOME Republicans) support rape.
"And this justifies denying a woman the right to make her own decision about whether to carry the pregancy to term. "

"Put it into the same category as the old "women just don't want to be inconvenienced" argument."

That comes eerily close to saying that the rape is "excused"

Look, I'll admit that I can't find a quote for now of you saying that the Rs support rape, even though in the first thread, two leftists did say that, which you didn't call them out on.
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Your insurance was probably never provided by an institution trying to make a public statement about contraception.
But, contraceptive coverage doesn't generally make rates go up--just the opposite. That's why insurance companies are willing to pick it up for church-related institutions with conscientious objections.
Your quote was for all insurance companies. Which is it, Reader?
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Your insurance was probably never provided by an institution trying to make a public statement about contraception.
But, contraceptive coverage doesn't generally make rates go up--just the opposite. That's why insurance companies are willing to pick it up for church-related institutions with conscientious objections.
And try keeping in your quote, why dontcha, instead of deleting your words?
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Your insurance was probably never provided by an institution trying to make a public statement about contraception.
But, contraceptive coverage doesn't generally make rates go up--just the opposite. That's why insurance companies are willing to pick it up for church-related institutions with conscientious objections.
OK, I'll bite. What's making it go up in 2014, then? Not the freebies?

"We compared the average premiums in states that already have ObamaCare-like provisions in their laws and found that consumers in New Jersey, New York and Vermont already pay well over twice what citizens in many other states pay. Consumers in Maine and Massachusetts aren't far behind. Those states will likely see a small increase.

By contrast, Arizona, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kentucky, Missouri, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah, Wyoming and Virginia will likely see the largest increases—somewhere between 65% and 100%. Another 18 states, including Texas and Michigan, could see their rates rise between 35% and 65%.

While ObamaCare won't take full effect until 2014, health-insurance premiums in the individual market are already rising, and not just because of routine increases in medical costs. Insurers are adjusting premiums now in anticipation of the guaranteed-issue and community-rating mandates starting next year. There are newly imposed mandates, such as the coverage for children up to age 26, and what qualifies as coverage is much more comprehensive and expensive. Consolidation in the hospital system has been accelerated by ObamaCare and its push for Accountable Care Organizations. This means insurers must negotiate in a less competitive hospital market.

Although President Obama repeatedly claimed that health-insurance premiums for a family would be $2,500 lower by the end of his first term, they are actually about $3,000 higher—a spread of about $5,500 per family."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788...

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Your insurance was probably never provided by an institution trying to make a public statement about contraception.
But, contraceptive coverage doesn't generally make rates go up--just the opposite. That's why insurance companies are willing to pick it up for church-related institutions with conscientious objections.
Wrong, Reader. The "institutions" were not making a public statement, they were stating they should not be forced to violate the tenants of their faith.

And no again, insurance companies are not willing to pick it up for church-related institutions. Obama had to back down after the controversy.

Flip flop in both of your paragraphs. You wanted to lash out at the Catholic Church and then make the "insurance" companies the good guys here. Contraceptive coverage was in effect all along for most policy holders, just not in effect for a very small portion of the population. That small slice of a population isn't large enough to make a dent in anything. The number of Catholic institutions with employees is such a small population compared to the overall population of those who are employed in secular industries there is no cost savings.

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#121
Mar 11, 2013
 
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Tough call, WA.
Protection of women has far too often been used to enforce or justify subservience.
Explain what you mean by that.

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The Muslim rape in Scandanavia has been well documented as was Lora Logan's rape. White females are under assault to keep them from procreating the next generation of the culture that has done more than all cultures combined to promote Christianity, peace and the Great Commission of Jesus to take the gospel to the entire world. That is why men like Obama hate real sexually moral Christianity.
The only thing that is stopping white females from procreating are whitemen and females! If you want to come on here and talk biblical, then you'd better know what the Christian doctrine has said concerning women for centuries. You are supposed to be homemakers raising children... Proverbs 31. You are suppose to have multitudes of children and be subservient to your husbands... Gen.3:16 , 1Corth.11:3 and Eph 5:22 says "Wives submit to your husbands as to the Lord".

It is this evil "system" that has caused both parents to work in order to survive financially, and causing mostly white women, to forgo having children and instead attend college, start a career, then maybe get married and have one child. Even the economy and societal 'norms' of not having children until your halfway in the grave, has affected the Catholics as well, who were the poster perfect example of "Be fruitful and multiply". The Mormons are attempting to keep up what 'traditional' Catholics used to do.

This system that the monied elite created is unfriendly and punishing to normal family and child creation which God commanded! It is evil! It's the system that's the problem, not women who are on assistance. The Devil has fooled the lot of you into believing HIS insanity is normal, when in fact it's diametrically opposed to the words of God as they relate to family and procreation.

Some of you white women have screwed yourselves by challenging your biological clocks and putting off childbearing until your too damn old and unhealthy from stress to carry a child full term! Why do you think white women have more complications with having children than any other group...STRESS!

WAKE UP and stop allowing this system to brainwash you into destruction and obscurity.

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<quoted text> Explain what you mean by that.
Well, you could read Sojourner Truth's Ain't I a Woman speech for the essence. But basically, the notion of women as the "weaker sex" in need of protection has frequently been used to bar women from professions considered too stressful for them, from the intellectual drain supposedly associated with voting, from the rigors of higher education and so forth and so on.

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Seriously, Reader? For someone so knowledgeable about the health reform, do you deny that premiums will be increased due to those freebies?
Meanwhile, this is a hoot:
Donna Brazile wonders: Why are my health-care premiums going up?
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/27/donna-b...
The overall cost of health care has been on a steady increase for decades.

If anything, in the most recent several years, it has slowed.

One feature of Obamacare to help guard against increased insurance costs based on hysteria or what the market will bear, are caps on combined adminstrative cost/profit.

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The Muslim rape in Scandanavia has been well documented as was Lora Logan's rape. White females are under assault to keep them from procreating the next generation of the culture that has done more than all cultures combined to promote Christianity, peace and the Great Commission of Jesus to take the gospel to the entire world. That is why men like Obama hate real sexually moral Christianity.
I believe that you are confusing oft-repeated with well-documented.

I have traced those particular rumors around several times. Each time they rely on a faulty interpretation of a small slice of a more comprehensive report on the topic.

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Well, you could read Sojourner Truth's Ain't I a Woman speech for the essence. But basically, the notion of women as the "weaker sex" in need of protection has frequently been used to bar women from professions considered too stressful for them, from the intellectual drain supposedly associated with voting, from the rigors of higher education and so forth and so on.
In the 21st century? Who says those things other than southern political goofballs?

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<quoted text> In the 21st century? Who says those things other than southern political goofballs?
Comes close when you are talking about women journalists not reporting in certain countries where women do not have equal treatment.

Like I said, it's a judgment call, not always straight-forward. Journalists of both genders face a lot of dangers in the course of reporting on stories, particularly in war-torn areas. And mob conditions are always particularly dangerous.

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