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#2 Mar 18, 2013
Oh may, but so many things are suggested.

LL dealt for 90 more days in rehab.

Not sayin' she doesn't need it, but rehab must be quite the industry out there.

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#3 Mar 18, 2013
Lohan, no desire to clean up her act.

One thing I do agree on with Reader: rehab is an industry. Most not reputable and ply the "patient" further with the idea that they are "helpless" to overcome their "illness" with the idea that they are always in "recovery." Hence, they believe they are expected to "fall off the wagon."

Why do we even waste internet bits and bytes and the airwaves over someone as meaningless as Lohan?

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#4 Mar 18, 2013
gokeefe wrote:
Lohan, no desire to clean up her act.
One thing I do agree on with Reader: rehab is an industry. Most not reputable and ply the "patient" further with the idea that they are "helpless" to overcome their "illness" with the idea that they are always in "recovery." Hence, they believe they are expected to "fall off the wagon."
Why do we even waste internet bits and bytes and the airwaves over someone as meaningless as Lohan?
Lohan's charms elude me as well.

And there are probably rehabs that shouldn't be in the biz (like Charlie Sheen's self-styled at-home rehab center, for instance) and some may well be charging way more for cushy surroundings for their more elite clientele. But, in-patient rehab, followed by extended outpatient care has a track record better than the alternative of no treatment.

I believe that they physiology of addiction has also been revealing that addict brains respond differently to various brain chemicals that are triggered by various drugs--either due to irreversable changes from use, or possibly due to some innate differences.

Takes some pretty profound behavioral changes to not only give up the substance, but also to retrain into new ways of dealing with any and all things that the substance was being used for--whether recreation, anaesthesia or whatever. Being "in recovery" really is just about maintaining the ongoing support to be able to do that, particularly within the context of a society that is pretty reliant on substance cures.

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#5 Mar 18, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Lohan's charms elude me as well.
And there are probably rehabs that shouldn't be in the biz (like Charlie Sheen's self-styled at-home rehab center, for instance) and some may well be charging way more for cushy surroundings for their more elite clientele. But, in-patient rehab, followed by extended outpatient care has a track record better than the alternative of no treatment.
I believe that they physiology of addiction has also been revealing that addict brains respond differently to various brain chemicals that are triggered by various drugs--either due to irreversable changes from use, or possibly due to some innate differences.
Takes some pretty profound behavioral changes to not only give up the substance, but also to retrain into new ways of dealing with any and all things that the substance was being used for--whether recreation, anaesthesia or whatever. Being "in recovery" really is just about maintaining the ongoing support to be able to do that, particularly within the context of a society that is pretty reliant on substance cures.
Agreed, regarding the various brain chemicals and reactions. There is also probably a pre-disposition to addictive behaviors. Some can have a few drinks, call it an evening, go home, and don't crave. Some can't quit. And other substances are more addictive. Many people who "self-medicate" do so to cope with stressors and depression.

There is nearly always an underlying mental health issue driving an addiction. While I don't disagree with the need for support to overcome an addiction, I will always support the idea that the traditional underlying models of thoughts about addictions need to be trashed. Even AA itself will state that the addict needs to WANT recovery and needs to change his/her behaviors and perceptions of what is occurring to them. Unfortunately, AA (and its model of thought) fails a lot of people. Bill W. was one abusive person if you ever read anything about him. He substituted one addiction -- his alcoholism -- for others -- women and abusing his wife. Healthy behaviors need to be learned, unfortunately this is IMHO why so many addictions are not only cyclical but familial. No one learns to incorporate and consciously apply healthy behaviors and how to take good care of themselves. We could write dissertations on this stuff here, but not a good idea. Unfortunately, been there, done that with an ex-husband and am too close to it with a kid who is doing a dissertation on this stuff in clinical psych. Kid's given me a lifetime's education with listening to her.(And who's ever said the parents were the kid's teachers? LOL)

Long and short, Lohan has no reward to be gained going through these rehab stints. Most those rehabs, as you pointed out with Sheen, are just there to take in money from desperate families, often without medical supervision or any supportive psychological or psychiatric support. And yes, it takes a long time with a lot of support to "recover."

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