It Always Starts With The DemonRats

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Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#1 Jun 12, 2013
When did your phone habits become easy pickings for the government? In 1979.

The recent revelations about the NSA’s spying on Americans has prompted a great deal of justifiable hand-wringing over the PATRIOT Act, which first passed in 2001.

But the real problem predates that law by more than 20 years. The reason the PATRIOT Act could ever give the government an easy channel to the “business records” that show all the numbers you dial or take calls from on your phone is that Justice Harry Blackmun (who had earlier authored the Roe v Wade decision based on a “right to privacy”) wrote a majority Supreme Court opinion 34 years ago that those records aren’t protected by the Constitution.

If you’re upset that FBI agents can obtain records on all phone users by merely pretending in a court document that your grandmother’s phone habits (and those of tens of millions of other Americans who never fell under any suspicion) are somehow relevant to a terrorism investigation, then turn your ire here. Blackmun’s 1979 opinion in Smith v. Maryland continued a dangerous trend toward toward giving government access to all corporate information — including the information you give corporations when you do business with them.

Aren’t universal orders for phone and Internet logs precisely the kind of “general warrant” that inspired so much fear and loathing in the Framers of the Constitution?

Unfortunately, as the NSA dragnet’s defenders are quick to point out, that’s not how the Supreme Court sees things. In its earliest Fourth Amendment decisions, the court held that business records were as protected as any other private papers. But as the modern regulatory state grew in the early 19th century, the court changed its tune — not because there was any principled reason to think the Fourth Amendment hadn’t been meant to protect business papers, but because such protection “would practically nullify” the growing body of new federal laws regulating businesses.

At first, this didn’t seem to pose much threat to personal privacy: These were corporate files, not personal diaries, after all. Then, in a 1976 case called United States v. Miller, the court extended that logic to individual financial records that had been entrusted to banks.

Three years later, in Smith v. Maryland, telephone records were found to be unprotected as well. When you used technology that left traces of your activity in the phone company’s files, the court reasoned, you “assumed the risk” that the company would reveal that information — even if they had explicitly promised not to — and waived your “reasonable expectation of privacy” under the Fourth Amendment.

So just to be clear: The “right to privacy” protects the taking of human life through abortion, but not the phone call of the mother who sets the appointment.
- See more at: http://conservativeintel.com/2013/06/12/when-...

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#2 Jun 12, 2013
Let's see...

---Housing Crisis: Demonrats (CRA of 1977)
---Islamic terrorism against the US: Demonrats (Iran, 1978)
They cannot kill a Spook

Toledo, OH

#3 Jun 12, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
Let's see...
---Housing Crisis: Demonrats (CRA of 1977)
---Islamic terrorism against the US: Demonrats (Iran, 1978)
Carter and now we're in his third term
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#4 Jun 12, 2013
With such finely honed analytical skills, you should seek employment with Glenn Beck.

woof

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#5 Jun 12, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
With such finely honed analytical skills, you should seek employment with Glenn Beck.
woof
History doesn't lie in these cases. Carter got the ball rolling on the most pressing crises of the 21st century.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

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#6 Jun 12, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
So just to be clear: The “right to privacy” protects the taking of human life through abortion, but not the phone call of the mother who sets the appointment.
Amazing standards.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#7 Jun 12, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>History doesn't lie in these cases. Carter got the ball rolling on the most pressing crises of the 21st century.
Oh boy.

Explain that, professor.

woof

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#8 Jun 12, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
With such finely honed analytical skills, you should seek employment with Glenn Beck.
woof
No, you see, Conservatives hire the best and brightest, so they don't need as many of them. Liberals hire the lazy and stupid, so need more to get any real work done.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#9 Jun 12, 2013
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Oh boy.
Explain that, professor.
woof
It's self explanatory to any think American, especially those old enough to remember how Carter set the Middle East aflame.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#10 Jun 12, 2013
Meet the true father of the Islamic Revolution: Jimmy Carter
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/arti...

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#12 Jun 12, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
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Oh, the grammar skills on you. Shameful.
You know, we might believe you if you said you were a graduate of Bob Jones University or Liberty University, but Colby? No.
You have the rigid thought patterns and victim mentality that would have been instilled in you at BJU or LU. For all intents and purposes, you are a Fundamentalist. You have far more in common with those Islamic Fundamentalists you rail against than you care to admit.
That's okay, though. It's obvious to everyone here, even if you can't see it yourself.
Because I hate Democrats who set this nation on the road to destruction? What ever you say, Porchy. We've already established that history is an alien subject to you.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#13 Jun 12, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
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Oh, the grammar skills on you. Shameful.
You know, we might believe you if you said you were a graduate of Bob Jones University or Liberty University, but Colby? No.
You have the rigid thought patterns and victim mentality that would have been instilled in you at BJU or LU. For all intents and purposes, you are a Fundamentalist. You have far more in common with those Islamic Fundamentalists you rail against than you care to admit.
That's okay, though. It's obvious to everyone here, even if you can't see it yourself.
"Oh, the grammar skills on you."

On you?

Yeah, that would make Miss Crabtree proud, wouldn't it?

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#15 Jun 12, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
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Haha. Two responses to the same post.
Have you ever heard of a colloquialism? Ever been to Jersey? I don't always use my fancy book-learnin' on the internets.
One of my sisters lives in Mahwah and her husband grew up in Edison and I've never heard your odd turn of phrase.
shanikwah

Middletown, OH

#16 Jun 12, 2013
Duke didn't live through watching Carter favor the "exiled" Khomeni in France. Decided the mean ole CIA had helped the Shah in unseemly ways and so now we have a crazed muzzie with a nuke. The Shah of Iran did the unforgivable. He brought Iran, "a muslim nation", into the 20th century. The media fawned over Khomeni. So lets argue the pure pure liberalism. Mean ole Shah with modern day economics pursuits and western style freedoms versus the 8th century mad men. I'd like to here more from liberal women's groups supporting the rule of Mohammed throughout the world. They probably don't care, their clitoris is safe here. For now.

“Hereeeeee'ssss UR Pizza”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#17 Jun 12, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
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Haha. Two responses to the same post.
Have you ever heard of a colloquialism? Ever been to Jersey? I don't always use my fancy book-learnin' on the internets.
silly troll.

You continue to be exposed as a moron; but hey, Y let that slow ya down huh.

I C you wussed out on your aids ridden pedophile avatar photo

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#18 Jun 12, 2013
shanikwah wrote:
Duke didn't live through watching Carter favor the "exiled" Khomeni in France. Decided the mean ole CIA had helped the Shah in unseemly ways and so now we have a crazed muzzie with a nuke. The Shah of Iran did the unforgivable. He brought Iran, "a muslim nation", into the 20th century. The media fawned over Khomeni. So lets argue the pure pure liberalism. Mean ole Shah with modern day economics pursuits and western style freedoms versus the 8th century mad men. I'd like to here more from liberal women's groups supporting the rule of Mohammed throughout the world. They probably don't care, their clitoris is safe here. For now.
Duke was in college then, sleeping with boys for coke money. He had no time for current events.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#20 Jun 12, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
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Don't pretend you're all fancy now. Your sister lives in Paterson and you know it.
Suuure, Porchy. Whatever you say.
I've had to go to Ramsey on business several times in the past, too. Believe me, I've never been to Paterson except for I-80.
Why do I suspect you're from some garden spot like Passaic.

“The One! The Only! RUKiddingme”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey, Baby!

#21 Jun 12, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
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Why do I suspect you're from some garden spot like Passaic.
Because you like to fantasize about me like that.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#22 Jun 12, 2013
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
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Because you like to fantasize about me like that.
Jealous of Mahwah, huh? That's pretty sad.

“The One! The Only! RUKiddingme”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey, Baby!

#23 Jun 12, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Jealous of Mahwah, huh? That's pretty sad.
Aaaaand another non-sequitur in a feeble attempt to create diversion.

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