Did Civil War Just Become Inevitable?

Did Civil War Just Become Inevitable?

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#1 Nov 12, 2012
http://tinyurl.com/bflzkj5

by Erik Rush

So… Barack Obama won re-election to the office of President of the United States, and Republican challenger Mitt Romney has slipped into obscurity faster than any candidate I’ve ever seen. Aside from futile, quasi-navel gazing posturing on the part of Congress over the “fiscal cliff” upon which the American economy is perched, news coverage since the election has been rife with diversion and non-issues.

We’re already sick of hearing autopsies of the Romney campaign. Suffice it to say that there is a host of reasons that Romney should not have been the GOP nominee, and that he could have run his campaign better. For years, conservatives have been driving home the point that when the Republican Party wants to win, it should advance conservative candidates, which Romney was most assuredly not. They have also rightly pointed out that Romney did not run on any of the party base’s core principles, thus failing to provide a distinction between him and Obama.

Generally, when someone cries foul after a defeat, more often than not the charge is simply sour grapes, thus it is not considered seemly to cry foul without good reason. When the evidence of cheating on the part of a victor is staring one in the face however, it becomes a moral obligation to at least discuss the matter – and the fact that two-thirds of the electorate aren’t aware that the Obama administration is a fundamentally nefarious one hardly matters in such a pursuit.

As we got increasingly closer to the 2012 general election, it was my assertion that Obama would not be re-elected without employing widespread fraud of one form or another. Given the character of the Obama campaign, I took it for granted that fraud would be rampant, but the extent to which it might affect the election was then unknown. Now, at a week out from the election, there are still US congressional races that remain in question, and voter turnout numbers that just don’t add up. From counties across America showing well over 100% voter turnout, to precincts reporting 99% voter turnout for Obama, to military ballots being delayed or destroyed in plane crashes, to the illegal ejection of Republican inspectors from polling places, and much more, we have scenarios that would have every Democrat operative in the country screaming from the rooftops if the shoe was on the other foot.
Now, it appears that Americans are being asked to presume that Obama “would have won anyway.”

After the election, we moved on – almost too quickly – to discussions of immigration reform, and subsequently the resignation of CIA Director David Petraeus, ostensibly over an extramarital affair, but also in the wake of the Benghazigate, which reeks of criminality on the part of the Obama administration. It is a shame that such a renowned military man is being brought down over a lurid scandal that might have threatened national security, but what’s really surprising is not that Petraeus resigned when he did, but that he isn’t getting fist bumps from Obama cabinet members in public for being such a stud.

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#2 Nov 12, 2012
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The pre-election data simply did not point to such a decisive win for Obama. Cyberspace is awash in verifiable reports of polling place and fraud complaints, as well as inordinate voter turnout. I don’t doubt for a nanosecond that technical tampering would be beneath this administration either, and with Obama’s affinity for technology, his connections in the high-tech industry, and available government resources, such tampering would have been child’s play.

For the same reasons that few in positions of power have been willing to pursue investigations of Obama on any level (whether it is on the issue of his eligibility, lifelong radical ties, the murder of former associates, unconstitutional executive orders, Fast and Furious, his hand in the Arab Spring, fraternization with the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist terror supporters, or Benghazigate), they will fail to do so now. As sad and sickening as it sounds, the reason is that many still don’t want to be associated with bringing down America’s first black President. As I said in my 2010 book Negrophilia: From Slave Block to Pedestal ~ America’s Racial Obsession, the power brokers on the left counted on this, knowing they would be able to make exponential gains with their agenda through Obama simply because he is black.

On the one hand, we have an election fraud conspiracy that will, despite all evidence, be put down to racism, paranoia, and wild, tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory even by much of the conservative press. On the other hand, we have more than enough evidence for a criminal investigation.

--Republican leadership in America is unwilling to investigate or prosecute, vote fraud--

I’m sure that I am not the only one who has noted the conspicuous disregard on the part of prominent Republicans for the instances of probable voter fraud and the prospect of a systemic compromise of balloting, and this raises a big red flag in my mind. In my humble opinion, if the Republican leadership in America is unwilling to investigate or prosecute this case for reasons of sheer cowardice, then they are willfully complicit after the fact. If however, as some have argued, their role has been window dressing, calculated to provide the illusion that patriotic, constitutionally-minded Americans have someone on their side, then their part has been no less than treason.

The failure of the Republican leadership to pursue an investigation of the balloting almost suggests what some Americans have asserted for years. These folks are almost completely disenfranchised politically, and are regarded as fringe dwellers, even by most conservatives. Their assertion being that for many years, the job of the Republican leadership has essentially been to run interference for the Democrats’ advancement of socialism. Why? Because the interests of the power brokers on both sides transcend parties. They have decided that America – and probably the world, eventually – will be an oligarchical collective, a global slave state managed by narcissistic elites whose nests have long since been feathered.

In such a case, it will take nothing short of Divine Intervention or civil war to save America.
Jfa

Akron, OH

#3 Nov 12, 2012
Yes

The South is going to revolt, our people will rule again and the demographic threat will end, Mexico is back to Mexico, and Blacks are getting the Lincoln treatment.
imagine2011

Brentwood, TN

#4 Nov 12, 2012
Jfa wrote:
Yes
The South is going to revolt, our people will rule again and the demographic threat will end, Mexico is back to Mexico, and Blacks are getting the Lincoln treatment.
and the liberal white sl^ts can go with them...
Jfa

Akron, OH

#5 Nov 12, 2012
imagine2011 wrote:
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and the liberal white sl^ts can go with them...
All expenses paid one way, to California
Spookstillhere f trolls

Toledo, OH

#6 Nov 12, 2012
Jfa wrote:
Yes
The South is going to revolt, our people will rule again and the demographic threat will end, Mexico is back to Mexico, and Blacks are getting the Lincoln treatment.
I have no problems with Blacks that work. Where I grew up there was a nearly a.ghost town that had.been blacks back when every hollow had a coal mine in it. What was left by the time I was in school were two families one the kids were grown and gone but.the dadis still worked.at.one of the mines still going. The other there were three kids grandmother Mom and Dad. None of were lazy mouthing or anything like the African American trash you see on TV wanting their Obama phones. Of the three kids all earned top grades two went on to college the Youngest went to the Marines and now has.a logging business and is a strict Republican.
Not all blacks are bad you just have to sort out the good from the trash same for whites. I have no use for a meth head even if they are as.white as.new.snow. same goes for commies.
Jfa

Akron, OH

#7 Nov 12, 2012
Spookstillhere f trolls wrote:
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I have no problems with Blacks that work. Where I grew up there was a nearly a.ghost town that had.been blacks back when every hollow had a coal mine in it. What was left by the time I was in school were two families one the kids were grown and gone but.the dadis still worked.at.one of the mines still going. The other there were three kids grandmother Mom and Dad. None of were lazy mouthing or anything like the African American trash you see on TV wanting their Obama phones. Of the three kids all earned top grades two went on to college the Youngest went to the Marines and now has.a logging business and is a strict Republican.
Not all blacks are bad you just have to sort out the good from the trash same for whites. I have no use for a meth head even if they are as.white as.new.snow. same goes for commies.
95% vote for Obama, Bush got like 15% and that was the high water mark.

If you vote for Obama twice, GTFO. That is what will happen, if we can prove it then it's OK to stay, but this is very few people of dark skinned African descent.

If we don't have self-determination, we will be rolled into the history books, and remembered only as the oppressor that was slain by the glorious Obama, this really scares me.

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#8 Nov 12, 2012
imagine2011 wrote:
<quoted text>
and the liberal white sl^ts can go with them...
i--I am liberal and white, two things I have not shame in admitting.

But, if you are going to call me a sl*t, you need to be able to back that one up.

I'm waiting ...
Jfa

Akron, OH

#9 Nov 12, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
i--I am liberal and white, two things I have not shame in admitting.
But, if you are going to call me a sl*t, you need to be able to back that one up.
I'm waiting ...
Race
Traitor

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#10 Nov 12, 2012
In response to the question posed in the heading and the gist of the article, no, civil war is not inevitable. Frankly, I don't believe war is ever inevitable.

But, all I see in the article is yet another rehash of the firm belief of some on the right that there is no way that Obama can do anything without cheating. He must have gotten a boost into college, people only voted for him because he's black, and now, having won a second Presidential election it must be due to voter fraud.

Now, I will grant that the election process was a bit of a mess, particularly in Ohio and Florida, but there were other screw-ups as well. But, don't look for any Repubs to digging too deeply into that, because they know all the things that they were trying to pull.

But these things can be challenged by folks outside the two major parties. I believe it was Bob Fitrakis (of the Green Party) who led the case against Ken Blackwell back in 2004. So, if you think you have something provable, I say go for it. Just don't be surprised when you find out exactly who was up to what.

“Where did I put my tiara?”

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#11 Nov 12, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
i--I am liberal and white, two things I have not shame in admitting.
But, if you are going to call me a sl*t, you need to be able to back that one up.
I'm waiting ...
Where did imagine call you and/or infer you're a sl*t? I'm white and a sl*t in bed for my hubby. But, if you're going to call me a liberal, you need to be able to back that one up.

Delusional, paranoid post from you Reader.
Jfa

Akron, OH

#12 Nov 12, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
In response to the question posed in the heading and the gist of the article, no, civil war is not inevitable. Frankly, I don't believe war is ever inevitable.
But, all I see in the article is yet another rehash of the firm belief of some on the right that there is no way that Obama can do anything without cheating. He must have gotten a boost into college, people only voted for him because he's black, and now, having won a second Presidential election it must be due to voter fraud.
Now, I will grant that the election process was a bit of a mess, particularly in Ohio and Florida, but there were other screw-ups as well. But, don't look for any Repubs to digging too deeply into that, because they know all the things that they were trying to pull.
But these things can be challenged by folks outside the two major parties. I believe it was Bob Fitrakis (of the Green Party) who led the case against Ken Blackwell back in 2004. So, if you think you have something provable, I say go for it. Just don't be surprised when you find out exactly who was up to what.
Blah Blah Blah

Whitey is so evil and wants to keep the black man down

The left has been gloating that the day of the white male is over in this nation.

If that is true, and it appears it is, I'm done with this nation, and we are going to split the country and let the remaining states fail.

We made this country and the Marxists want it destroyed.

NO

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#13 Nov 12, 2012
Jfa wrote:
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Blah Blah Blah
Whitey is so evil and wants to keep the black man down
The left has been gloating that the day of the white male is over in this nation.
If that is true, and it appears it is, I'm done with this nation, and we are going to split the country and let the remaining states fail.
We made this country and the Marxists want it destroyed.
NO
By, have fun.

Not quite so simple as the day of the white male being over. Plenty of white males on the Dem side. But, the Repubs have marginalized themselves through their overreliance on a shrinking demographic. They have been promising a return to an earlier era (which didn't exactly ever exist the way they've been picturing it) in which white males got an extra helping all the way around. Folks who were there and experienced something different than the utopia that they promise don't buy it, and some others are savvy enough to realize the fallacy through a study of history. So long as there were plenty of believers (and those who wanted it to be true), the story worked.

What the Republicans need to begin to do is to start defining themselves based on real issues, and abandon the illusory protection of white males, or staving off armageddon from the liberals. They don't have enough buyers.
Jfa

Akron, OH

#14 Nov 12, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
<quoted text>
By, have fun.
Not quite so simple as the day of the white male being over. Plenty of white males on the Dem side. But, the Repubs have marginalized themselves through their overreliance on a shrinking demographic. They have been promising a return to an earlier era (which didn't exactly ever exist the way they've been picturing it) in which white males got an extra helping all the way around. Folks who were there and experienced something different than the utopia that they promise don't buy it, and some others are savvy enough to realize the fallacy through a study of history. So long as there were plenty of believers (and those who wanted it to be true), the story worked.
What the Republicans need to begin to do is to start defining themselves based on real issues, and abandon the illusory protection of white males, or staving off armageddon from the liberals. They don't have enough buyers.
Obama racked up more debt than Bush in half the time.

If that isn't scaring you, I really don't know what will.

Even if I was a Muslim (the "moderate" kind) I could not vote for Obama unless I honestly wanted fiscal suicide.

They need big cuts and big tax hikes, Obama targets "the rich" who are mostly white males. Wonder why.

The sole reason that I think that minorities vote Obama in huge numbers is to permanently kick out white male conservatives forever from power.

It isn't like we don't have minority officeholders, it's that as long as the GOP is the party of the white man, most minorities will hate it because they don't want color blind, they want their own spoils system.

And plenty of white males voted for Obama, UAW members of the Santa Claus brigade.

Traitors, all of them, to their people.

Gloves are off, we are playing for keeps.

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#15 Nov 12, 2012
-tip- wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/bflzkj5
by Erik Rush
So… Barack Obama won re-election to the office of President of the United States, and Republican challenger Mitt Romney has slipped into obscurity faster than any candidate I’ve ever seen. Aside from futile, quasi-navel gazing posturing on the part of Congress over the “fiscal cliff” upon which the American economy is perched, news coverage since the election has been rife with diversion and non-issues.
We’re already sick of hearing autopsies of the Romney campaign. Suffice it to say that there is a host of reasons that Romney should not have been the GOP nominee, and that he could have run his campaign better. For years, conservatives have been driving home the point that when the Republican Party wants to win, it should advance conservative candidates, which Romney was most assuredly not. They have also rightly pointed out that Romney did not run on any of the party base’s core principles, thus failing to provide a distinction between him and Obama.
Generally, when someone cries foul after a defeat, more often than not the charge is simply sour grapes, thus it is not considered seemly to cry foul without good reason. When the evidence of cheating on the part of a victor is staring one in the face however, it becomes a moral obligation to at least discuss the matter – and the fact that two-thirds of the electorate aren’t aware that the Obama administration is a fundamentally nefarious one hardly matters in such a pursuit.
As we got increasingly closer to the 2012 general election, it was my assertion that Obama would not be re-elected without employing widespread fraud of one form or another. Given the character of the Obama campaign, I took it for granted that fraud would be rampant, but the extent to which it might affect the election was then unknown. Now, at a week out from the election, there are still US congressional races that remain in question, and voter turnout numbers that just don’t add up. From counties across America showing well over 100% voter turnout, to precincts reporting 99% voter turnout for Obama, to military ballots being delayed or destroyed in plane crashes, to the illegal ejection of Republican inspectors from polling places, and much more, we have scenarios that would have every Democrat operative in the country screaming from the rooftops if the shoe was on the other foot.
Now, it appears that Americans are being asked to presume that Obama “would have won anyway.”
After the election, we moved on – almost too quickly – to discussions of immigration reform, and subsequently the resignation of CIA Director David Petraeus, ostensibly over an extramarital affair, but also in the wake of the Benghazigate, which reeks of criminality on the part of the Obama administration. It is a shame that such a renowned military man is being brought down over a lurid scandal that might have threatened national security, but what’s really surprising is not that Petraeus resigned when he did, but that he isn’t getting fist bumps from Obama cabinet members in public for being such a stud.
Run a true-blue conservative next time and see him put McGovern in 2nd place.

Every time.

The country's not going that way. Ever.

Give it up. Your way is DONE!
Jfa

Akron, OH

#16 Nov 12, 2012
Kemosahbe wrote:
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Run a true-blue conservative next time and see him put McGovern in 2nd place.
Every time.
The country's not going that way. Ever.
Give it up. Your way is DONE!
They aren't true blue in this country.

Canada, UK yes.

A conservative Dem would win but the species is extinct, some think it remains hidden underground waiting to emerge, especially in the South, but the Jeffersonians/Jacksonians are dead they are in the party of Hamilton/Lincoln by conveience, but in the New Confederacy the Jacksonian Party will be the new dominant force.

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#17 Nov 12, 2012
Jfa wrote:
<quoted text>
They aren't true blue in this country.
Canada, UK yes.
A conservative Dem would win but the species is extinct, some think it remains hidden underground waiting to emerge, especially in the South, but the Jeffersonians/Jacksonians are dead they are in the party of Hamilton/Lincoln by conveience, but in the New Confederacy the Jacksonian Party will be the new dominant force.
Just have plenty of lube on your hand as you jack to your wet dream.

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#18 Nov 12, 2012
Jfa wrote:
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They need big cuts and big tax hikes, Obama targets "the rich" who are mostly white males. Wonder why.
You pose an interesting question. Why do you think that "the rich" are mostly white males?

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#19 Nov 12, 2012
FKA Reader wrote:
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You pose an interesting question. Why do you think that "the rich" are mostly white males?
Because whites are the majority. Simple math.

But, since I know you're pulling the race card -- not the math card -- why do you think that fact hasn't changed, in spite of government-mandated affirmative action and other race-based policies?

Cleavon Little

Since: Sep 12

Hilliard, OH

#21 Nov 12, 2012
John Oliver wrote:
<quoted text>
Old white dinosaurs with narrow minds, overstuffed bellies, and red necks are the majority in most trailer parks.
Young black animals with no education, copious hate and thuggy tattoos are the primary occupants of most prisons.

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