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Enzyte Bob

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I've often wondered how the "escape" to Cuba worked out for those people. The poverty line there is much more obvious than it is here.
My dad's best man escaped back home. Preferable to him over the drudgery of working on the line in a Ford plant. Dumb move, financially, for sure. He probably would have been a millionaire had he stayed at Ford with all the goodies those guys used to get. My point is that there is more to the myth about "freedom" than meets the eye.

Don't get me wrong. Our country is GREAT compared to those countries, especially when you consider the fact that everybody in some of those countries is subject to some kind of surveillance and know everything you do. My point is that if you are a normal person, it's not so bad in most other places either. That includes Cuba.

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Enzyte Bob wrote:
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That's true. NPR once had a blurb about a book where some professor tracked people's ethnicities and his take was even when you get to the third or fourth generations, people don't completely assimilate. Cultures are very strong and they live on - especially when there is a religious component involved. I lost the title, but it sounded interesting to read.
"Culture" is not boundary-defined, as in nation or even a religion. Culture can be found in any group that shares similar values or traditions. That's all I was trying to say. Is there an "American" culture? I suppose there is, in that we tend to eat similar foods, practice similar everyday things (work, family, etc.), and have some common holidays (Independence Day, Memorial Day, Thanksgiving, etc.). Other than that, no. Corporations and organizations even have "cultures" wherein an attitude, set of values, and goals are accepted and indoctrinated as a norm. Are "cultures" somewhat indoctrinated by its members? I'd guess so.

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rowdy01 wrote:
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I've often wondered how the "escape" to Cuba worked out for those people. The poverty line there is much more obvious than it is here.
Mostly they have been well treated and granted asylum status.Political bonus points to regard them as having escaaped political persecution by the US.

But poverty is very different in acountry committed to 100% employment, universal health care and the like.

I just saw elsewhere that Joanne Chesimard aka Assata Shakur has just been put on a domestic terrorist list. Political points countering by the US.
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FKA Reader wrote:
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Mostly they have been well treated and granted asylum status.Political bonus points to regard them as having escaaped political persecution by the US.
But poverty is very different in acountry committed to 100% employment, universal health care and the like.
I just saw elsewhere that Joanne Chesimard aka Assata Shakur has just been put on a domestic terrorist list. Political points countering by the US.
Oh my, dear. Do you have time to do a little reading?

Splendor Amid Poverty: Gallery Nights With Cuba's Gilded Elite

A photographer's inside look at the secret lives of Havana's super-rich, just down the street from its many poor, are a reminder that this supposed communist paradise is anything but equal.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/arch...

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Mrs Cleaver wrote:
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Oh my, dear. Do you have time to do a little reading?
Splendor Amid Poverty: Gallery Nights With Cuba's Gilded Elite
A photographer's inside look at the secret lives of Havana's super-rich, just down the street from its many poor, are a reminder that this supposed communist paradise is anything but equal.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/arch...
Where did I say that they were all equal, George?

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Mrs Cleaver wrote:
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Oh my, dear. Do you have time to do a little reading?
Splendor Amid Poverty: Gallery Nights With Cuba's Gilded Elite
A photographer's inside look at the secret lives of Havana's super-rich, just down the street from its many poor, are a reminder that this supposed communist paradise is anything but equal.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/arch...
Speaking of reading, you may want to check in on the words of Assata Shakur herself, a refugee in Cuba since the mid 1970s. http://www.democracynow.org/2013/5/3/assata_s...
Mrs Cleaver

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Where did I say that they were all equal, George?
Your eyes seem to gloss over at the thought of it all. By the way, dear, I'm not George or any other of his aliases.

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Mrs Cleaver wrote:
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Your eyes seem to gloss over at the thought of it all. By the way, dear, I'm not George or any other of his aliases.
Yeah, so you say.

If you actually bear no relationship to him, then I sincerely apologise for linking your name to his. However, you did pop up with the screen name of "Mrs. Cleaver" in the midst of a discussion in which George was extolling the virtues of being Mr. Cleaver.

And you both hail from Hilliard.

George claims you are different people, also. But then George is a well-know prevaricator.

BTW--did you read the piece by Assata Shakur? I didn't exactly get the impression that she is pining away for life back in the states.

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And you both hail from Hilliard.
And you hail for "location hidden", like so many others. I wonder if all the others with that IP get free pizzas too.
Mrs Big Johnson

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GlitterSucks wrote:
<quoted text>And you hail for "location hidden", like so many others. I wonder if all the others with that IP get free pizzas too.
Only if my super sleuth husband Bob knows their names.

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