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Mom

United States

#85 May 28, 2011
Anastacia Penwell wrote:
Yea we know it wont ever bring Chris back..but what I ment by shes doing it for the kids is that she is showing them that she is willing 2 fight for the wrong doing of what they did 2 Chris..she is teaching them by this 2 stand up for their belives..Maybe you should have fought the hospital for what the wrong doings they did to your mother,exspecailly if their the reason that she past.Kim is doing what she belives is right fighting back for her husband since he isnt here to do it himself.I will stand by her for that and I agree weverything she is doing.
. Does anyone really know what happened hospitals do make mistakes horrible ones that cost people there lives all the time.my friends husband was taken to the hospital for a sprained ankle a nurse came in and gave him a morphine shot,unfortunately minutes later so did another nurse, he died hours later from a drug overdose she did sue and she did win.Read up on the lawsuits hospitals have mistakes r made that shouldn't b maybe to stop it more people should sue.
Karen

Hilliard, OH

#86 May 28, 2011
I do not have health insurance. I can tell you from personal experience that yes, hospitals do have an uncompensated care program. However, there are a lot of things that uncompensated care DOES NOT cover. I have also experienced this personally. So, you still cannot get the same care as you would if you had insurance. YOU ARE NOT TREATED THE SAME IF YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE. Until you all have been in this woman's position, stop judging her and realize she has rights too. You all keep saying hospitals and doctors treat you the same if you don't have insurance....it is NOT TRUE!
Amee-RN

United States

#87 May 28, 2011
Aunt Bea wrote:
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It might be fairly interesting to follow your posts and try to understand the story, IF you could spell.
I certainly hope when she posts she gets some help..Have someone clean up her spelling..I agree! Hard to make sense of the posts!
Treating the symptoms

Oberlin, OH

#88 May 28, 2011
Karen wrote:
I do not have health insurance. I can tell you from personal experience that yes, hospitals do have an uncompensated care program. However, there are a lot of things that uncompensated care DOES NOT cover. I have also experienced this personally. So, you still cannot get the same care as you would if you had insurance. YOU ARE NOT TREATED THE SAME IF YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE. Until you all have been in this woman's position, stop judging her and realize she has rights too. You all keep saying hospitals and doctors treat you the same if you don't have insurance....it is NOT TRUE!
Have you ever thought that you were treated differently because of any other reason then insurance status? Maybe you were loud and belligerent? Maybe you were disrespectful to those trying to take care of you? Maybe your expectations were not the same as the expectations of the physician/nurse treating you??? Example: You thought you should be treated with antibiotics because you had a sore throat/ear ache and one of your friends was recently treated with antibiotics for something similar, and the doctor--after listening to you tell your symptoms and perform an exam--did not believe you needed antibiotics because they performed a test and/or it was based strictly on your symptoms and exam. You may look at that and believe "the doctor didn't give me antibiotics (or perform some test) because I don't have insurance", when really, you didn't NEED antibiotics...and maybe your friend didn't need antibiotics either. People are treated OR are not treated based on their symptoms. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH INSURANCE!
Nickels

The Plains, OH

#89 May 28, 2011
Karen wrote:
I do not have health insurance. I can tell you from personal experience that yes, hospitals do have an uncompensated care program. However, there are a lot of things that uncompensated care DOES NOT cover. I have also experienced this personally. So, you still cannot get the same care as you would if you had insurance. YOU ARE NOT TREATED THE SAME IF YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE. Until you all have been in this woman's position, stop judging her and realize she has rights too. You all keep saying hospitals and doctors treat you the same if you don't have insurance....it is NOT TRUE!
Actually you're only partially correct. If you don't have insurance you can have hospital charges waived but you will still often have to pay to see non hospital physicians, ie someone who is not a hospitalist or in patient physician. This is because doctors became tired of being abused by hospitals and overworked while the boards and ceo's made all the money. So now the majority of physicians belong to a physicians group rather than belonging to the hospital. They often have their own separate staff and offices and often are not on call. They also often do a lot of their own billing. This is why you might come to a hospital and then see a doctor for out patient care and be on a charity program and still get a bill for care that you will have to pay. I wouldn't complain though since the bulk of your medical costs are from hospital based activities (labs, x-rays, testing, operations) and the lighter costs are exams and outpatient visits. You can also do a payment plan with hospitals to pay off anything you owe and if you do so in good faith you can get 0% interest. Also any money you pay for care without insurance is tax deductible. If you are that strapped for cash without insurance that you have a charity program and still can't pay the physicians fees then most likely you qualify for Medicaid.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just trying to explain how the system works and correct the crap people are spewing saying that they don't get the same care as everyone else on insurance. They are painting it in a totally untrue manner. Healthcare is a business. There is no denying it. Those of us who have practices opened practices to treat patients, control our own hours, and guess what to make a living as well. Healthcare seems to be the only damn business that you are expected to give your product away for $0 and be happy about it or else youre the devil.

It gets old hearing the same untrue BS. Makes me at times really think about leaving the medical field. I could make the same salary without all the BS I currently put up with.
Anon

Grove City, OH

#90 May 28, 2011
Merica wrote:
When you first come to the hospital, you sign a consent form that TELLS you that it's a teaching hospital, and you agree to be seen and treated by a resident - who is a doctor. I'm not sure why this lady thinks residents are not doctors, but there is one more problem with this case.
This lady will have to prove that when the first hospital sent her husband home, they deviated from the standard of care, i.e., a physician under the same/similar circumstances would have sent her husband home. Flu like symptoms always get sent home. Even if patients tested positive for H1N1 via nasal swab, they were still sent home, as most H1N1 patients are not admitted unless they are at high risk for developing severe disease; elderly, children, and pregnant women.
Standardized care is NO different than socialized medicine. The only difference being we let insurance companies in the middle make the money for nothing more than shuffling it around.

The Standardized Care mentality says that young healthy men don't die from the flu, so no need to run expensive tests. Trust me, I know, I've been there. Young healthy women don't get uterine cancer, so we'll spend 18 months trying to convince her she's just crazy, instead of treating cancer. Been there, done that.

I know the Mt. Carmel system intimately. I lost a mother and a cousin to the standardized care mentality at Mt. Carmel. Thanks to their radiology docs, I'm headed down that road, too.
Amee-RN

United States

#91 May 29, 2011
LLV wrote:
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That's very possible. If the hospital my mother was in would have done a few things differently, she wouldn't have died at such an early age. But I'm not going to sue the hospital.
I didn't say it was worse on the kids. I mean that it will be worse for HER if she drags this thing out. And how is she helping the kids by suing the hospitals? I don't understand that. You said she's doing it for the kids. No she isn't, because the kids don't know any better.
Look, I'm not trying to judge your friend. I'm sure she has her reasons. But don't use the kids as an excuse to justify her actions. She can sue the whole blasted state of Ohio, but that's not going to bring her husband back.
One conclusion in cases such as these: it all boils down to the almighty dollar. And that's all.
If you are not "allowed" to talk about it then stop...
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#92 May 29, 2011
Anon wrote:
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Standardized care is NO different than socialized medicine. The only difference being we let insurance companies in the middle make the money for nothing more than shuffling it around.
The Standardized Care mentality says that young healthy men don't die from the flu, so no need to run expensive tests. Trust me, I know, I've been there. Young healthy women don't get uterine cancer, so we'll spend 18 months trying to convince her she's just crazy, instead of treating cancer. Been there, done that.
I know the Mt. Carmel system intimately. I lost a mother and a cousin to the standardized care mentality at Mt. Carmel. Thanks to their radiology docs, I'm headed down that road, too.
So you are forced to go to Mt Carmel despite your misgivings? I had cancer and was unhappy with the way things were going at a local hospital - switched teams entirely. New hospital, new docs, new treatement plan. It's a free country.
Wait what

Dublin, OH

#93 May 29, 2011
Karen wrote:
I do not have health insurance. I can tell you from personal experience that yes, hospitals do have an uncompensated care program. However, there are a lot of things that uncompensated care DOES NOT cover. I have also experienced this personally. So, you still cannot get the same care as you would if you had insurance. YOU ARE NOT TREATED THE SAME IF YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE. Until you all have been in this woman's position, stop judging her and realize she has rights too. You all keep saying hospitals and doctors treat you the same if you don't have insurance....it is NOT TRUE!
The state has a program to get the uninsured health insurance. Have you looked into that? It was part of the reform.

Since: Mar 11

Marion, OH

#94 May 29, 2011
Not even going to waste my time reading the comments on this one. I believe that most law suits of this nature are brought about by the surviving spouse is to lazy to work and provide for the family. Then they wonder why hospital costs and insurance are so damn high.
KCwildguy

Independence, MO

#95 May 30, 2011
Ignorance wrote:
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I hope someday you will have to go on Medicaid or Medicare, and end up in a hospital, rehab facility or nursing home and find out for yourself what they really pay for. And see the "nice care" that you are given. I believe you will then remember how ignorant you are. Better yet, I hope you lose your insurance and really, really need medical help. It will be only then when you realize how ignorant you are.
Ignorance, your name really fits. Health professionals give the best care they can every single time, no matter what. Those are caring, compassionate people that do a job you would never be able to hope to do. Administrators care about the cost, but the doctors and nurses only want you treated properly. Since your name is Ignorance, you probably voted for the idiot Obama to get your free health care too, without having to work for it, or pay for it, didn't you? Let's see how good your care is when the government is responsible for it.
HateLawyers

Independence, MO

#96 May 30, 2011
Hey, her husband died. I feel for her, but she is sure SOMEONE is responsible. These things never, ever just happen, even to good people. I am sorry she lost her husband, but sometimes bad things happen to good people. Either she started thinking of the money, or some shyster lawyer got hold of her, and put the idea of a big pay day in her head. I don't believe for one minute the stupid "I just want to make sure this never happens to anyone else", since the hospital won't ever pay a dime. That is why they have insurance. All you are doing is making sure you get a lot of publicity and a big pay day. She needs to deal with her grief, accept that sometimes, stuff happens, and get away from whatever scumbag lawyer is telling her it is "For her husbands memory".
Amee-RN

United States

#97 May 30, 2011
Nickels wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually you're only partially correct. If you don't have insurance you can have hospital charges waived but you will still often have to pay to see non hospital physicians, ie someone who is not a hospitalist or in patient physician. This is because doctors became tired of being abused by hospitals and overworked while the boards and ceo's made all the money. So now the majority of physicians belong to a physicians group rather than belonging to the hospital. They often have their own separate staff and offices and often are not on call. They also often do a lot of their own billing. This is why you might come to a hospital and then see a doctor for out patient care and be on a charity program and still get a bill for care that you will have to pay. I wouldn't complain though since the bulk of your medical costs are from hospital based activities (labs, x-rays, testing, operations) and the lighter costs are exams and outpatient visits. You can also do a payment plan with hospitals to pay off anything you owe and if you do so in good faith you can get 0% interest. Also any money you pay for care without insurance is tax deductible. If you are that strapped for cash without insurance that you have a charity program and still can't pay the physicians fees then most likely you qualify for Medicaid.
I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just trying to explain how the system works and correct the crap people are spewing saying that they don't get the same care as everyone else on insurance. They are painting it in a totally untrue manner. Healthcare is a business. There is no denying it. Those of us who have practices opened practices to treat patients, control our own hours, and guess what to make a living as well. Healthcare seems to be the only damn business that you are expected to give your product away for $0 and be happy about it or else youre the devil.
It gets old hearing the same untrue BS. Makes me at times really think about leaving the medical field. I could make the same salary without all the BS I currently put up with.
Well said Nickels...Thank you for taking the time to print the very thorough explanation.
Dis-Likes this hospital

Jackson, OH

#98 May 30, 2011
That is not news to anyone that lives here in Washington Court House, where Fayette County Memorial Hospital (fayette county)...this is an ongoing thing for this hospital...it really doesn't matter how much that you complain to them, even to the right people, they just DO NOT care. The hospital (fayette) sent my close friend home when a migraine (one of the reason I went to take her), I had asked if it could of triggered a mini-stroke...the doctor just overed looked what i had said to him and told us that he didn't think it was..then sent us home just to go to an eye doctor cause she couldn't see out of her right eye ... come to find out ... SHE DID HAVE a mini-stroke and her doctor was furious that the ER Dept. didn't even run 'ANY' type of tests for it..she even had high blood pressure and they STILL SENT HER HOME!!!!!!!!!!
I miss him

Portsmouth, OH

#99 Jan 26, 2014
He was my favorite uncle. My moms little brother. Yesterday was his bday. And his girls remembered that day. I love and miss you uncle chris. We know your looking down on all of us. R.I.P. the girls went outside and yelled happy birthday daddy.

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