Anti-pollution plan: Ban idling | The Columbus Dispatch

As central Ohio faces tougher federal restrictions on smog, some are proposing that Columbus and its suburbs outlaw idling vehicles. Full Story
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Sarah

Columbus, OH

#1 Feb 5, 2010
Burning 1 gallon of gasoline produces 19.4 pounds of carbon dioxide and about 1 pound of other pollutants, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

"Even if those numbers are half correct or a third correct, you're still seeing millions of dollars saved in central Ohio," Celebrezze said.

These people just make up numbers as they go along and expect us to believe them. Enough with the Nanny State. We live in Ohio, where the weather changes every 5 minutes and the traffic can be as bad as LA some days. This is just another Progressive proposal to gain more control over our lives because they think they are smarter than we are and have to take care of us. Just say "NO" to Progressives and their agendas.
Earl Fisher

Portsmouth, OH

#2 Feb 5, 2010
Its just another way for these BASTARDS to rip off the public.
CatInTheHat

Reynoldsburg, OH

#3 Feb 5, 2010
I just checked the calendar and it isn't April 1st. David Celebrezze should get a real job.
Sparky Dog

New York, NY

#4 Feb 5, 2010
Busy body government.
Hey Now

United States

#5 Feb 5, 2010
People like this who propose these sorts of laws were turned on their heads in N. Africa 1943, Italy 1944, Normandy 1944, and ultimately were crushed by May of 1945. The Japanese awakened the sleeping giant in 1941, and it is rising once again. People like these have perverted our system in an attempt to destroy it and their fun is quickly to be done away with.
Jason Thomas

Marysville, OH

#6 Feb 5, 2010
Since carbon dioxide is not a pollutant, maybe the people thinking of these laws should just quit breathing?

If people are stupid enough to idle their car and pay the price then so be it. We are already too far into the nanny state.
David Celebrezze

Columbus, OH

#8 Feb 5, 2010
I encourage folks to check out our fuel conservation fact sheet and website for the template we are using:
http://www.theoec.org/PDFs/FactSheets/FactShe...
This document has the formula for coming up with the fuel savings. Additionally, smog is formed from volatile organic compounds and NOx. Both gas and diesel vehicles are a major sources of these pollutants. There would be no more than 5 minutes of idling in a 60 minute time period (I think the story may have left that out).
We are also meeting with community groups to get their input.
http://www.theoec.org/AirDiesel.htm
Robert

United States

#9 Feb 5, 2010
As much as I hate to do this, I have to agree with the idea of banning idling cars.

News flash, the ability to drive is not a right, it is a privilege. I would have figured that most of the people on here screaming government is taking our rights are the same one demanding illegals not drive because it is not a right.

Secondly who cares if this is about all that green nonsense that hippies keep screaming about. Tell you what, if you don't think that car exhaust is bad for you tell me why you don't run a car in an enclosed garage. Frankly I could care less about saving the northeaster one legged albanian wood rat or what ever critter there is. Why don't we do this stuff one to save money and two to improve our own health. Heck, I am a smoker and I still hate car exhaust and pollution.
Secret Steve

Columbus, OH

#10 Feb 5, 2010
If we're providing exemptions for commercial vehicles with refrigeration units, etc., exemptions for periods of extreme temperature, and exemptions for vehicles in traffic jams, when exactly is all of this "illegal" idling taking place? Are people just letting their cars idle in their driveways because it is too much trouble to turn the key off?
Dana

New Smyrna Beach, FL

#11 Feb 5, 2010
I'm all for this, but the article failed to point out that the #1 offenders are POLICE CARS. I constantly see them idling for hours on end. I hope the first tickets they write are to themselves.
Reader

Columbus, OH

#12 Feb 5, 2010
Jason Thomas wrote:
Since carbon dioxide is not a pollutant, maybe the people thinking of these laws should just quit breathing?
If people are stupid enough to idle their car and pay the price then so be it. We are already too far into the nanny state.
The US Supreme Court disagrees with you. And what they think matters a whole lot more than what you think does.
Southern Ohio

Columbus, OH

#14 Feb 5, 2010
Secret Steve wrote:
If we're providing exemptions for commercial vehicles with refrigeration units, etc., exemptions for periods of extreme temperature, and exemptions for vehicles in traffic jams, when exactly is all of this "illegal" idling taking place? Are people just letting their cars idle in their driveways because it is too much trouble to turn the key off?
YES they are leaving vehicles idle in driveways - parking lots. That happens at my work place daily. To stupid to turn off becasue it's staying 'warm" in the winter and "cool" in the summer.
The end is near

Columbus, OH

#15 Feb 5, 2010
The government should regulate, fine, punish, control everything that YOU do that I don't like.
Nanny State Losers

Columbus, OH

#16 Feb 5, 2010
The only idling vehicles I ever see are police, or government employees hiding in their car napping on state or city time.

Environmentalism is the new totalitarianism.
Interested

Lexington, KY

#17 Feb 5, 2010
Secret Steve wrote:
If we're providing exemptions for commercial vehicles with refrigeration units, etc., exemptions for periods of extreme temperature, and exemptions for vehicles in traffic jams, when exactly is all of this "illegal" idling taking place? Are people just letting their cars idle in their driveways because it is too much trouble to turn the key off?
I see people idling at the grocery store all the time. People don't seem to realize that you're getting 0 mpg with your engine running and you not moving. You can listen to the radio with the engine off, it's really OK.

And if a "Nanny state" means I can have cleaner air, businesses won't be crippled by new regulations, and my asthma won't flare up as much, them I'm all for it.
TimH

Columbus, OH

#18 Feb 5, 2010
Dana wrote:
I'm all for this, but the article failed to point out that the #1 offenders are POLICE CARS. I constantly see them idling for hours on end. I hope the first tickets they write are to themselves.
Exactly, why do they need to keep their cars running while they sit inside and eat lunch??
Unrepentant Cynic

Pickerington, OH

#19 Feb 5, 2010
Let's make it a law you can only flush your toilet five times a day. One-hundred dollar fines for every extra flush. Why stop there?
Make it a law you can only change your underwear once a week.
Every Sunday we can get a nice clean pair of government issued whites for the week.
Think how much water that would save! All the water pollution we could eliminate.
Gee golly whiz!

It would really cut down on the sewer effluent and help the economy by getting plumbers some extra work which would increase the governments income tax receipts at the same time.

It's just common sense you know.

Think one thing doesn't lead to another?
You'd better think again.

Happy now?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Sue from Chillicothe

Chillicothe, OH

#20 Feb 5, 2010
I was just wondering how you manage to get 19 pounds of CO2 and one pound of other pollutants form an eight pound gallon of gas. When I took general science the rule was " matter can not be created or destroyed" As for CO2 being a pollutant, I think we should tax all the hot air coming out of the mouths in Washington. I've never figured out how something we all breath out and is vital for the life of plants can be a pullutant.
dopes

Columbus, OH

#21 Feb 5, 2010
stupid law that begs to be ignored and is almost completely unenforceable
Brice N Livingston

Reynoldsburg, OH

#22 Feb 5, 2010
David C, are we going to use your stopwatch or mine? Or will this be another item the police will have to carry?

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