Agreement reached on future of Jesus portrait in Jackson schools

Jul 12, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Columbus Dispatch

The controversy over a portrait of Jesus that hung for decades in a southern Ohio high school apparently didn't end in April when the district took the portrait down.

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Leather and Lace

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In what way? Maybe you'd like to point me towards the Federalist papers written at that time that said Christianity was the basis for the Constitution. Or perhaps show ANY sort of writing for that matter from that time period that supports this.
I'm not doing you research for you. History proves your theory wrong.
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Im a god fearing, gun loving American. But saying some one is second class because of their beliefs is pure ignorance. When this great country was founded, our forefathers intended it to be one country under god. That god was not acknowledged by name just god. The pilgrims came here to avoid religious prosecution, and over the years we've become a melting pot. So to sit there and say your god is better then everyone else's is arrogant. There are hundreds of religions that predate Christianity, so saying its the one true religion is proving your arrogance and intollorence of others beliefs. So they took down a picture, it's a picture. If your truly a religious person you don't need a picture to prove it, what really matters is what is in your heart.
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Benjamin Frankiln was a Deist, look it up if you want, he once said he refrained from the dogma of Christianity, and he found lighthouses more useful then churches.
Leather and Lace

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America wrote:
Benjamin Frankiln was a Deist, look it up if you want, he once said he refrained from the dogma of Christianity, and he found lighthouses more useful then churches.
He said lots more. Research it. One liners don't work.
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Im a god fearing, gun loving American. But saying some one is second class because of their beliefs is pure ignorance. When this great country was founded, our forefathers intended it to be one country under god. That god was not acknowledged by name just god. The pilgrims came here to avoid religious prosecution, and over the years we've become a melting pot. So to sit there and say your god is better then everyone else's is arrogant. There are hundreds of religions that predate Christianity, so saying its the one true religion is proving your arrogance and intollorence of others beliefs. So they took down a picture, it's a picture. If your truly a religious person you don't need a picture to prove it, what really matters is what is in your heart.
Atheists are second class trash.
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Ignorance is bliss, and you appear very happy. You claim to be religious but you judge others. Remember Jesus was know to hang around the 2nd class trash, and he said judge not and ye shall not be judged. He who is without sin cast the first stone.
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Jul 18, 2013
 
America wrote:
Ignorance is bliss, and you appear very happy. You claim to be religious but you judge others. Remember Jesus was know to hang around the 2nd class trash, and he said judge not and ye shall not be judged. He who is without sin cast the first stone.
Really ??!!??

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Jul 19, 2013
 
Leather and Lace wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not doing you research for you. History proves your theory wrong.
So what you're saying is you have nothing. Here, I'll even get the ball rolling:

Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11 - As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

Reference: http://candst.tripod.com/tripoli1.htm
Leather and Lace

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Jul 19, 2013
 
The country was founded on religious principals was the topic. Remember?
You know it and I know it why do you try to hide the facts?
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Jul 19, 2013
 
America wrote:
Benjamin Frankiln was a Deist, look it up if you want, he once said he refrained from the dogma of Christianity, and he found lighthouses more useful then churches.
Benjamin Franklin
Belief - Episcopalian

"Here is my Creed. I believe in on God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped.

That the most acceptable service we render to Him is in doing good to His other Children. That the soul of Man is immortal, and will be treated with Justice in another Life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental points in all sound Religion, and I regard them as you do in whatever Sect I meet with them.

As to Jesus of Nazareth, my Opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the System of Morals and his Religion, as he left them to us, is the best the World ever saw, or is likely to see." March 9, 1790 in a letter to Ezra Stiles, President of Yale University

"Heavenly Father, May all revere Thee, And become They dutiful children and faithful subjects. May thy Laws be obeyed on earth as perfectly as they are in Heaven. Provide for us this day as Thou hast hitherto daily done. Forgive us our trespasses, and enable us likewise to forgive those that offended us. Keep us out of temptation and deliver us from Evil." Franklin's own version of the Lord's Prayer

“God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel”– Constitutional Convention of 1787, original manuscript of this speech
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llDayo wrote:
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So what you're saying is you have nothing. Here, I'll even get the ball rolling:
Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11 - As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
Reference: http://candst.tripod.com/tripoli1.htm
Like the treaty of 1797, this treaty showed the government of the United States to be impartial in matters of religion,--that it had no established religion, and that the question of religion and religious opinion was not to be considered in national affairs. It showed that it was not the policy of this government to compel those within its jurisdiction, who are not Christians, to act as though they were.*

http://candst.tripod.com/tripoli1.htm
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America wrote:
Ignorance is bliss, and you appear very happy. You claim to be religious but you judge others. Remember Jesus was know to hang around the 2nd class trash, and he said judge not and ye shall not be judged. He who is without sin cast the first stone.
Any sinful act which is made clear in God's Word can and should be judged. Why? Why should Christians "stick out their necks" and judge others when Jesus will undoubtedly do it when He returns? Think about it. Do you truly care for others? Do you want them saved or condemned at that last day? If you rightly judge those sinful acts now, that gives the one who commits them the opportunity to be aware that the act is, indeed, sinful. This gives the offender the opportunity and choice of whether or not to continue sinning or to repent–the opportunity to choose between life and death. The purpose in judging isn't actually to condemn, it is to hopefully, eventually save!

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Leather and Lace wrote:
<quoted text>Like the treaty of 1797, this treaty showed the government of the United States to be impartial in matters of religion,--that it had no established religion, and that the question of religion and religious opinion was not to be considered in national affairs. It showed that it was not the policy of this government to compel those within its jurisdiction, who are not Christians, to act as though they were.*
http://candst.tripod.com/tripoli1.htm
O...k...
So you just reaffirmed my position.

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The country was founded on religious principals was the topic. Remember?
You know it and I know it why do you try to hide the facts?
Lol, it wasn't! In fact, one of the main reason Thomas Jefferson wrote the separation clause was due to concerns from Baptists (a religious minority) being dominated by Congregationalists. So it was Christians being concerned that religion does not play a part in politics.
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Lol, it wasn't! In fact, one of the main reason Thomas Jefferson wrote the separation clause was due to concerns from Baptists (a religious minority) being dominated by Congregationalists. So it was Christians being concerned that religion does not play a part in politics.
History proves you wrong no matter how you throw it out there, LOL
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Leather and Lace wrote:
<quoted text> Benjamin Franklin
Belief - Episcopalian
"Here is my Creed. I believe in on God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped.
That the most acceptable service we render to Him is in doing good to His other Children. That the soul of Man is immortal, and will be treated with Justice in another Life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental points in all sound Religion, and I regard them as you do in whatever Sect I meet with them.
As to Jesus of Nazareth, my Opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the System of Morals and his Religion, as he left them to us, is the best the World ever saw, or is likely to see." March 9, 1790 in a letter to Ezra Stiles, President of Yale University
"Heavenly Father, May all revere Thee, And become They dutiful children and faithful subjects. May thy Laws be obeyed on earth as perfectly as they are in Heaven. Provide for us this day as Thou hast hitherto daily done. Forgive us our trespasses, and enable us likewise to forgive those that offended us. Keep us out of temptation and deliver us from Evil." Franklin's own version of the Lord's Prayer
“God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel”– Constitutional Convention of 1787, original manuscript of this speech
"Here is my Creed," Franklin wrote to Stiles. "I believe in one God, Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That he ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable Service we render to him, is doing Good to his other Children. That the Soul of Man is immortal, and will be treated with Justice in another Life respecting its Conduct in this ... As for Jesus of Nazareth ... I think the system of Morals and Religion as he left them to us, the best the World ever saw ... but I have ... some Doubts to his Divinity; though' it is a Question I do not dogmatism upon, having never studied it, and think it is needless to busy myself with it now, where I expect soon an Opportunity of knowing the Truth with less Trouble."

The narrative was classic Franklin, witty and to the point. Religion was worthless unless it promoted virtuous behavior. Jesus was the greatest moral teacher who ever lived, but he was not God.

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.p...

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<quoted text>History proves you wrong no matter how you throw it out there, LOL
So it should be no trouble for you to find a document supporting the idea that the Constitution and the founding of the US was done so using Christian principles. I'll keep waiting for this evidence.
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So it should be no trouble for you to find a document supporting the idea that the Constitution and the founding of the US was done so using Christian principles. I'll keep waiting for this evidence.
Read slowly. OUR county was FOUNDED on religious PRINCIPALS.principals get it??? I didn't think so.
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principal (&#712;pr&#618;ns& #618;p &#601; l)

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1. first in importance, rank, value, etc; chief
Leather and Lace

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I don't recall anyone saying Jesus was God. We all know that fact.

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