created by: Sharia rising | Oct 12, 2011

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Do you support the banning of pork in Ohio prisons?

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Sharia rising

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COLUMBUS (AP)— A decision by Ohio officials to remove all pork products from prison menus in response to a lawsuit by Muslim inmates is not sitting well with the state’s pork producers and processors.
Both promise action of their own, including a possible counter lawsuit, to address what they consider an unfair and illogical decision.
“We really think it’s not in the best interest, frankly, of the whole prison system,” said Dick Isler, executive director of the Ohio Pork Producers Council.“It seems like we’re letting a small group make the rules when it really isn’t in the best interest of the rest of prisoners.”
Pork is inexpensive and nutritious and compares well with other lean meats, he said.
Ironically, the inmates’ lawsuit doesn’t involve pork at all; it demands that non-pork meats like beef come from animals slaughtered according to Islamic law. But the prisons system responded by simply removing pork as an option altogether.
Assistant prisons director Steven Huffman has spoken with Isler, but the system isn’t changing its mind, spokeswoman JoEllen Smith said Wednesday.
She said she couldn’t comment on the lawsuit specifically, but said removing pork assures that inmates’ religious practices aren’t jeopardized by pork coming into contact with other food during preparation.
The prison system first took pork off the menu in 2009 after, in a money-saving attempt, it closed the pig farm and processing facility it operated to provide meat for inmates.
Last year, after lobbying by pork producers, the system added pork rib patties back to the menu twice a month.
The prison system couldn’t immediately say Wednesday how much it spent on pork. But Kristin Mullins, who lobbies for Ohio pork processors, said the move last year actually saved Ohio money because pork was less expensive at the time than other meats.
“Let’s service the entire prison population and not let one portion dictate what’s being served,” said Mullins, who also represents processors in Kentucky and Tennessee.
In a federal lawsuit, death row inmate Abdul Awkal complains that the state is restraining his religious freedoms by not providing meals prepared according to Islamic law, known as halal, while at the same time supplying Jewish prisoners with kosher meals.
Awkal, joined by a second inmate not on death row, says the vegetarian and non-pork options aren’t good enough. The inmates say food must be prepared in specific fashion, such as ensuring that an animal is butchered by slitting its throat and draining its blood, to conform to Islamic beliefs.
Prison guidelines for Muslim inmates already provided that meals will be “free of all pork and products containing or derived from pork.”
As a result, the decision to remove pork from menus won’t affect the lawsuit, which will continue, said David Singleton, executive director of the Ohio Justice and Policy Center, which is suing on behalf of the two inmates.
A judge has given lawyers and inmates for the state until next month to finish filing documents bolstering their arguments, ahead of an expected January trial.
Ohio says requiring halal meals could mean new dietary plans for as many as 2,000 inmates, while Awkal’s lawyers believe the figure is lower because not all Muslims eat halal meals.

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givem bread and water

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Yes. Why should convicts be eating better than me?
Antagonist

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I've heard that in some contries, they don't feed prisoners at all. If you are in prison, you have to depend on freinds or family to bring you food daily.
I'd say for those who object to what is served in prison, this should be their only option.
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The Federal Humane Slaughter Act states that animals should be stunned into unconsciousness prior to their slaughter to ensure a quick, relatively painless death. An animal is considered properly stunned when there is no "righting reflex"; that is, the animal must not try to stand up and right itself. Only then can it be considered fully unconscious. The "halal" method as practiced by Muslims clearly do NOT meet this standard, however with Obama in the White House, Muslims can do as they please and once again our laws become subject to Sharia, never the reverse. Our State is on a slippery slope as our leaders seek to appease Muslims at the expense of everyone else and sharia law grows like a malignant tumor.
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I support this ban. I don't think the prisoners should be allowed to pork one another.
Tim Horton

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Ben Dover wrote:
I support this ban. I don't think the prisoners should be allowed to pork one another.
Donut quit your day job!
Porky Pig

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W-w-w-w-w-w-w-hy y-y-y-y-y-y-e-s I d-d-d-d-d-o-o-o-o!
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Force feed the Muslims a pork chop, and put a dog in their cell too. Maybe that'll keep 'em outta jail next time.
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givem bread and water wrote:
Yes. Why should convicts be eating better than me?
bread & water only!!!!!
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put bcon grease on the prayer rugs.
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If the muslims don't want it...that's what they need for dinner.Sausage links for breakfast,stuffed porkchop for lunch and fried porkchops for dinner.Bada-Bing.
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Fried pork rinds for snacks.See above.
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Just give them cold cereal three times a day and then they'll be begging for pork.
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tents, bread & water, chain gangs
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1. these are prisons, not mosques. 2. nobody is forcing the muslim inmates to eat the pork. 3. why should every body else miss out on a good pork dinner because of a religion that has nothing to do with them ?(muslims make up a small minority of inmates). 4. if they had been good muslims they would not be in prison. they are in prison because they are convicted criminals and are there to repay their debt to society and not to worry about a halal menu. 5. last but not least leave religion out of the correctional system, the us is not an islamic republic yet.
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We should not be basing our government policies upon the Stone Age practices of Moo Slums.
George Jefferson Hilliard

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We are all children of God and should respect each other's beliefs.

I believe I'd like to get sodomized by Jesse Jackson.
Northside Joe

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George Jefferson Hilliard wrote:
We are all children of God and should respect each other's beliefs.
I believe I'd like to get sodomized by Jesse Jackson.
You are NOT the "real" George Jefferson! George is a conservatie hero and would NEVER say such a thing!
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George Jefferson Hilliard wrote:
We are all children of God and should respect each other's beliefs.
I believe I'd like to get sodomized by Jesse Jackson.
Sorry, "conservative" is spelled incorrectly. You mad me so angry with your lies and slander about George. Stop it!
George Jefferson Hilliard

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Northside Joe wrote:
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You are NOT the "real" George Jefferson! George is a conservatie hero and would NEVER say such a thing!
Of course you are right.

I REALLY want to be sodomized by Herman Cain.

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