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State pulls negative letter from Freshwater's file | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 51 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jul 20, 2011, titled State pulls negative letter from Freshwater's file | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

The Ohio Department of Education has removed its letter of admonishment from the disciplinary file of a fired Mount Vernon science teacher while it considers a legal challenge.

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Bubba

Sunbury, OH

#1 Jul 20, 2011
If there are two posabilities I would teach them both.
bob lagore

Greenfield, OH

#3 Jul 20, 2011
He will be reinstated with full back pay.
The the lawsuit will come.
dave

Columbus, OH

#4 Jul 20, 2011
there is a reason you cant get another teaching job...you suck and no one wants you
dave

Columbus, OH

#5 Jul 20, 2011
and i forgot to say....i am glad they fired your butt....happy about it even...hope you never work again
Michelle

Pickerington, OH

#7 Jul 20, 2011
He should never teach again. It is not his right as a teacher to teach religious beliefs, unless he is at a catholic school. Most schools don't celebrate the holidays anymore as there are so many ethnic groups in school. Burning crosses on studentís arms is ridiculous! He needs to go away and realize that he made a mistake. So much money wasted on this by the schools and state. He is a joke.
throw him in jail

Columbus, OH

#8 Jul 20, 2011
This is so beyond absurd, I am afraid to let my kids go to school.

The guy burned the arm of a student. At a minimum, he should be charged with assault.

And he continued to ignore his superiors.

He is a danger to society, get him OUT of public schools.

Where are you now Mr. Kasich? Since it was your Dept. of Ed that is trying to give this guy a clean slate to teach again.
Whateveryawantit tobe

Columbus, OH

#9 Jul 20, 2011
This clown has cost Knox Co. thousands of dollars they don't have b/c of his elitist attitude, He's out of control & needs to get into another line of work, but instead is going to put his Bible right back on his desk; hasn't learned a thing. I'm a Christian thru & thru but rules are rules.
Changes

Columbus, OH

#10 Jul 20, 2011
I'm sure this guy was given an opprotunity to speak with ODE. If he want's to put his bible down on the corner of his desk, go apply at a private or catholic school. I'm not sure if this whole thing was about the bible or that he was using an instrument to burn students.
Get Real

Columbus, OH

#11 Jul 20, 2011
Michelle wrote:
He should never teach again. It is not his right as a teacher to teach religious beliefs, unless he is at a catholic school. Most schools don't celebrate the holidays anymore as there are so many ethnic groups in school. Burning crosses on studentís arms is ridiculous! He needs to go away and realize that he made a mistake. So much money wasted on this by the schools and state. He is a joke.
Michelle...you are so correct. The fact that he asserts he wants a job and will place a Bible on the corner of his desk is astounding. No one should hire this person unless it is for a private Catholic school. I cannot believe this is continuing. As far a Freshwater selling his house to pay his legal bills, he needs to get a job in another industry. Perhaps working in a church would be better suited; certainly not in public education.
Mina

Hopkinsville, KY

#12 Jul 20, 2011
throw him in jail wrote:
This is so beyond absurd, I am afraid to let my kids go to school.
The guy burned the arm of a student. At a minimum, he should be charged with assault.
And he continued to ignore his superiors.
He is a danger to society, get him OUT of public schools.
Where are you now Mr. Kasich? Since it was your Dept. of Ed that is trying to give this guy a clean slate to teach again.
Kasich is going to wait until his buddy, Brennan-the-Charter-School guy is up and running, and THEN he'll find Freshwater a position, probably an executive one. Freshwater's job will be to institute religion and creationism into all the charter schools -- right after Kasich & Co. starve the public schools of money & get them closed.
Disgusted

Columbus, OH

#13 Jul 20, 2011
If he wants to teach creationalism, why not teach at a christian school? He would have to give up up the good pay and benifits of a public school teacher, but then he could do as his consicence dictates. That he insists on getting the pay and perks of a public school teacher, but does not feel bound to teach the public schools cirriculum show that at best, he would come off as a greedy hypocrite.
observer

Jacksonville, FL

#14 Jul 20, 2011
Whateveryawantittobe wrote:
This clown has cost Knox Co. thousands of dollars they don't have b/c of his elitist attitude, He's out of control & needs to get into another line of work, but instead is going to put his Bible right back on his desk; hasn't learned a thing. I'm a Christian thru & thru but rules are rules.
After you discover that he wins his lawsuit and is rehired with back pay and benefits, He will sue for financial damages as well and win that also. Your nightmare is just beginning based on the stupidity of the school board. Best thing they can do now is attempt to reach a financial settlement ASAP and put this issue behind them....The lesson appears unlearned for many of the bashers who cannot read the entire constitution.....
get rid of him

Columbus, OH

#15 Jul 20, 2011
observer wrote:
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After you discover that he wins his lawsuit and is rehired with back pay and benefits, He will sue for financial damages as well and win that also. Your nightmare is just beginning based on the stupidity of the school board. Best thing they can do now is attempt to reach a financial settlement ASAP and put this issue behind them....The lesson appears unlearned for many of the bashers who cannot read the entire constitution.....
Are you insane? He has lost every legal battle every step of the way. It's only now that King John is trying to get this guy as our model teacher that he is still in the news.

This POS d-bag should be required to pay the legal bills for all the fighting he has done.

He is wrong, plain and simple. He should go away.
Catholic school teacher

Dublin, OH

#16 Jul 20, 2011
Catholics do not have a problem with evolution. Catholic schools do not teach the creationism dogma of "intelligent design." They teach evolution. He would not be welcome to teach his ideology in any Catholic school I've been in. Perhaps at a Christian school where they believe in his nonsense.

Since: Aug 08

Mount Vernon, OH

#17 Jul 20, 2011
Michelle wrote:
He should never teach again. It is not his right as a teacher to teach religious beliefs, unless he is at a catholic school. Most schools don't celebrate the holidays anymore as there are so many ethnic groups in school. Burning crosses on studentís arms is ridiculous! He needs to go away and realize that he made a mistake. So much money wasted on this by the schools and state. He is a joke.
The allegation regarding the burn was never substantiated.

Although the ODE's letter (which has now been removed from John Freshwater's file) claimed that Freshwater injured a student, the letter did not cite any evidence or sources.(I've posted a copy of the "letter of admonishment" on my website; see the article "Ohio Department of Education tries to revive Tesla coil issue."

http://www.accountabilityinthemedia.com/2011/...

If you are interested in learning about Freshwater's side of the story, and more details from the administrative hearing, see my article "Freshwater's Closing Arguments: Allegations Unsubstantiated." (The article includes copies of the closing arguments from both sides.)

http://www.accountabilityinthemedia.com/2010/...

Since: Aug 08

Mount Vernon, OH

#18 Jul 20, 2011
The article by Dean Narciso states that Freshwater "is appealing the school district's unanimous decision to fire him in Knox County Common Pleas Court."

The decision by the school board, however, was not unanimous. The vote was 4-1.

See the video of the vote: "School board votes 4-1 to fire John Freshwater"

Zelda

United States

#19 Jul 20, 2011
Catholic school teacher wrote:
Catholics do not have a problem with evolution. Catholic schools do not teach the creationism dogma of "intelligent design." They teach evolution. He would not be welcome to teach his ideology in any Catholic school I've been in. Perhaps at a Christian school where they believe in his nonsense.
Exactly!! This underscores how ODE's action was politically motivated in order for the Kasich regime to show its loyalty to its Protestant evangelical supporters.

It also refutes Kasich's campaign promise for more jobs. What biotechnology company would seriously consider moving to a state with a government that thinks it appropriate to substitute the magical thinking of Protestant evangelicals for scientific education?

Mt. Vernon City Schools was justified in terminating Freshwater because he failed to do his job. He was hired to teach science, not proselytize about his faith. And because he failed to do his job, and Ohio is an "at will" state when it comes to employment, the school district was justified in its actions. And that should have been the end of it. Instead, the district has had to pay $900,000 defending their decision. And the district is in financial trouble. Even worse, our state government has undermined the district's decision. And now it appears that the district will have to spend even more money......

If Ohio is dying, it's because we are now being ruled by ignorant, dangerous theocrats.
frostygal

Mount Vernon, OH

#20 Jul 20, 2011
If he wanted to teach in the MTV city schools, he would have abided by the contract he signed. Our society in public schools is sooo diversified, that religion in the classroom should not be on the table....at all.
If he wants his Bible out, he needs to teach in one of the Christian Schools, but guess what, he doesn't want to have the Bible out enough to do that because these schools do not have a retirement.
I worked in the public sector, and retired from same, and we had some "dont's" that we had to abide by, so, why shouldn't he?
I believe in the Almighty very much, as I am sure he must to put his family in this situation, he knew that was "out of order."
Anon

Grove City, OH

#21 Jul 21, 2011
This leaves me gasping for air...
Florida Gator

Columbus, OH

#22 Jul 21, 2011
observer wrote:
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After you discover that he wins his lawsuit and is rehired with back pay and benefits, He will sue for financial damages as well and win that also. Your nightmare is just beginning based on the stupidity of the school board. Best thing they can do now is attempt to reach a financial settlement ASAP and put this issue behind them....The lesson appears unlearned for many of the bashers who cannot read the entire constitution.....
Oh yes absolutely! This is a public school. The public has the freedom of speech to say darn near anything they want and at a public school a teacher should have the right to teach ANYTHING they want even if it's absurd and irrational. I agree with you 100%!

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