Did Obama Lie Again? This Time Global Warming!

Created by Zoe Regen on Jan 3, 2014

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Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#44 Jan 8, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
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Everything impacts the climate, even a butterfly flapping its wings or an elephant passing gas. The question is of degree.
That is partially true. So Tony, which do you think has more impact, millions of butterflies and elephants doing as they have done for millennia, flapping their wings and passing gas, or millions of people burning fossil fuels for a period of a hundred and thirty years or so, something that had never occurred in all of those prior millennia?

Keep in mind, the ice core evidence that exists, and is irrefutable.

woof

“Hereeeeee'ssss UR Pizza”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#45 Jan 8, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
That is partially true. So Tony, which do you think has more impact, millions of butterflies and elephants doing as they have done for millennia, flapping their wings and passing gas, or millions of people burning fossil fuels for a period of a hundred and thirty years or so, something that had never occurred in all of those prior millennia?
Keep in mind, the ice core evidence that exists, and is irrefutable.
woof
LOL irrefutable??????????
Spoken like the kool aid (the science is settled) drinker you are dukie dog.......

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm...

Scientists can study Earth’s climate as far back as 800,000 years by drilling core samples from deep underneath the ice sheets of Greenland and Antarctica. Detailed information on air temperature and CO2 levels is trapped in these specimens. Current polar records show an intimate connection between atmospheric carbon dioxide and temperature in the natural world. In essence, when one goes up, the other one follows.

There is, however, still a degree of uncertainty about which came first—a spike in temperature or CO2. Until now, the most comprehensive records to date on a major change in Earth’s climate came from the EPICA Dome C ice core on the Antarctic Plateau. The data, covering the end of the last ice age, between 20,000 and 10,000 years ago, show that CO2 levels could

have lagged behind rising global temperatures by as much as 1,400 years.

http://www.hark.com/clips/nsvdjzkfdz-what-a-m...

“The idea that there was a lag of CO2 behind temperature is something climate change skeptics pick on,” says Edward Brook of Oregon State University’s College of Earth, Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences.“They say,‘How could CO2 levels affect global temperature when you are telling me the temperature changed first?’”
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#46 Jan 8, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
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LOL irrefutable??????????
Spoken like the kool aid (the science is settled) drinker you are dukie dog.......
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm...
Scientists can study Earth’s climate as far back as 800,000 years by drilling core samples from deep underneath the ice sheets of Greenland and Antarctica. Detailed information on air temperature and CO2 levels is trapped in these specimens. Current polar records show an intimate connection between atmospheric carbon dioxide and temperature in the natural world. In essence, when one goes up, the other one follows.
There is, however, still a degree of uncertainty about which came first—a spike in temperature or CO2. Until now, the most comprehensive records to date on a major change in Earth’s climate came from the EPICA Dome C ice core on the Antarctic Plateau. The data, covering the end of the last ice age, between 20,000 and 10,000 years ago, show that CO2 levels could
have lagged behind rising global temperatures by as much as 1,400 years.
http://www.hark.com/clips/nsvdjzkfdz-what-a-m...
“The idea that there was a lag of CO2 behind temperature is something climate change skeptics pick on,” says Edward Brook of Oregon State University’s College of Earth, Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences.“They say,‘How could CO2 levels affect global temperature when you are telling me the temperature changed first?’”
Someone didn't read the whole article.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#47 Jan 8, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL irrefutable??????????
Spoken like the kool aid (the science is settled) drinker you are dukie dog.......
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm...
Scientists can study Earth’s climate as far back as 800,000 years by drilling core samples from deep underneath the ice sheets of Greenland and Antarctica. Detailed information on air temperature and CO2 levels is trapped in these specimens. Current polar records show an intimate connection between atmospheric carbon dioxide and temperature in the natural world. In essence, when one goes up, the other one follows.
There is, however, still a degree of uncertainty about which came first—a spike in temperature or CO2. Until now, the most comprehensive records to date on a major change in Earth’s climate came from the EPICA Dome C ice core on the Antarctic Plateau. The data, covering the end of the last ice age, between 20,000 and 10,000 years ago, show that CO2 levels could
have lagged behind rising global temperatures by as much as 1,400 years.
http://www.hark.com/clips/nsvdjzkfdz-what-a-m...
“The idea that there was a lag of CO2 behind temperature is something climate change skeptics pick on,” says Edward Brook of Oregon State University’s College of Earth, Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences.“They say,‘How could CO2 levels affect global temperature when you are telling me the temperature changed first?’”
You should read the articles you cite a little more closely,

woof

“Hereeeeee'ssss UR Pizza”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#48 Jan 8, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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You should read the articles you cite a little more closely,
woof
I read the article, did you?

Frédéric Parrenin of the Laboratory of Glaciology and Geophysical Environment in France and a team of researchers may have found an answer to the question. His team compiled an extensive record of Antarctic temperatures and CO2 data from existing data and five ice cores drilled in the Antarctic interior over the last 30 years. Their results, published February 28 in Science, show CO2 lagged temperature by less than 200 years, drastically decreasing the amount of uncertainty in previous estimates.

Do you see anything in the article that claims CO2 preceded globull warming?

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#49 Jan 8, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
That is partially true. So Tony, which do you think has more impact, millions of butterflies and elephants doing as they have done for millennia, flapping their wings and passing gas, or millions of people burning fossil fuels for a period of a hundred and thirty years or so, something that had never occurred in all of those prior millennia?
Keep in mind, the ice core evidence that exists, and is irrefutable.
woof
The data certainly is irrefutable. I just don't think that data shows what you think it shows. There have been times when the CO2 in the atmosphere was greater than it is now, yet the temperature wasn't. If you don't have solid correlation, you can't rightfully even hypothesize causation.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#50 Jan 8, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
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The data certainly is irrefutable. I just don't think that data shows what you think it shows. There have been times when the CO2 in the atmosphere was greater than it is now, yet the temperature wasn't. If you don't have solid correlation, you can't rightfully even hypothesize causation.
Your statement that "There have been times when the CO2 in the atmosphere was greater than it is now, yet the temperature wasn't" is patently false.

http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.html

woof
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#51 Jan 8, 2014
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#52 Jan 8, 2014
"Over the last 800,000 years atmospheric CO2 levels as indicated by the ice-core data have fluctuated between 170 and 300 parts per million by volume (ppmv), corresponding with conditions of glacial and interglacial periods. The Vostok core indicates very similar trends. Prior to about 450,000 years before present time (BP) atmospheric CO2 levels were always at or below 260 ppmv and reached lowest values, approaching 170 ppmv, between 660,000 and 670,000 years ago. The highest pre-industrial value recorded in 800,000 years of ice-core record was 298.6 ppmv, in the Vostok core, around 330,000 years ago. Atmospheric CO2 levels have increased markedly in industrial times; measurements in year 2010 at Cape Grim Tasmania and the South Pole both indicated values of 386 ppmv, and are currently increasing at about 2 ppmv/year."

woof

“Hereeeeee'ssss UR Pizza”

Since: May 13

Columbus, OH

#53 Jan 9, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
"Over the last 800,000 years atmospheric CO2 levels as indicated by the ice-core data have fluctuated between 170 and 300 parts per million by volume (ppmv), corresponding with conditions of glacial and interglacial periods. The Vostok core indicates very similar trends. Prior to about 450,000 years before present time (BP) atmospheric CO2 levels were always at or below 260 ppmv and reached lowest values, approaching 170 ppmv, between 660,000 and 670,000 years ago. The highest pre-industrial value recorded in 800,000 years of ice-core record was 298.6 ppmv, in the Vostok core, around 330,000 years ago. Atmospheric CO2 levels have increased markedly in industrial times; measurements in year 2010 at Cape Grim Tasmania and the South Pole both indicated values of 386 ppmv, and are currently increasing at about 2 ppmv/year."
woof
Yep........ CO2 levels are up and ?????????

Glacial ice is increasing..The cute polar bear population is increasing. Snow is obviously still falling and it's cold as hell.

Al Gore is nowhere to be seen.


The Earth has apparently taken an Aspirin.
dunadd

Greensboro, NC

#54 Jan 9, 2014
The Earth has apparently taken an Aspirin!
Maybe she farted and feels better about herself even with the lice crawling all over her.
I hope Santa don't have to wear Bermudas and sunscreen any time soon.

“Zuzu's Petals”

Since: Sep 10

Bedford Falls

#55 Jan 9, 2014
RU_Kiddingme wrote:
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And you have lost your integrity.
If so, why are you stalking me?

“Zuzu's Petals”

Since: Sep 10

Bedford Falls

#56 Jan 9, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
That is partially true. So Tony, which do you think has more impact, millions of butterflies and elephants doing as they have done for millennia, flapping their wings and passing gas, or millions of people burning fossil fuels for a period of a hundred and thirty years or so, something that had never occurred in all of those prior millennia?
Keep in mind, the ice core evidence that exists, and is irrefutable.
woof
In your little mind! Sound like Dennis Rodman!
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#57 Jan 9, 2014
In whose opinion, moron?

How about a little something to back up the assertion?

Or do we all just take your word on it?
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#58 Jan 9, 2014
Free Pizza 4 U wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep........ CO2 levels are up and ?????????
Glacial ice is increasing..The cute polar bear population is increasing. Snow is obviously still falling and it's cold as hell.
Al Gore is nowhere to be seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =GPLD8aylRiwXX
The Earth has apparently taken an Aspirin.
wrong again time 2 maestro

http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/about-...

woof
d pants

United States

#59 Jan 9, 2014
Hilarious!! We can't say cool temperatures and a record mass of ice in 35 years is evidence of cooling, yet you douches can have you're cake and eat it over any record high temp.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#60 Jan 9, 2014
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
The data certainly is irrefutable. I just don't think that data shows what you think it shows. There have been times when the CO2 in the atmosphere was greater than it is now, yet the temperature wasn't. If you don't have solid correlation, you can't rightfully even hypothesize causation.
There has never been a time where CO2 levels have been higher Tony. Look at the data.

woof

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#62 Jan 9, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>
Your statement that "There have been times when the CO2 in the atmosphere was greater than it is now, yet the temperature wasn't" is patently false.
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.html
woof
I misspoke. There have been times the temperature was warmer than it is now with less CO2 in the atmosphere.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#63 Jan 9, 2014
d pants wrote:
Hilarious!! We can't say cool temperatures and a record mass of ice in 35 years is evidence of cooling, yet you douches can have you're cake and eat it over any record high temp.
Even when that temperature is recorded on top of an air-conditioning condenser, or just above asphalt.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#64 Jan 9, 2014
Duke for Mayor wrote:
"Over the last 800,000 years atmospheric CO2 levels as indicated by the ice-core data have fluctuated between 170 and 300 parts per million by volume (ppmv), corresponding with conditions of glacial and interglacial periods. The Vostok core indicates very similar trends. Prior to about 450,000 years before present time (BP) atmospheric CO2 levels were always at or below 260 ppmv and reached lowest values, approaching 170 ppmv, between 660,000 and 670,000 years ago. The highest pre-industrial value recorded in 800,000 years of ice-core record was 298.6 ppmv, in the Vostok core, around 330,000 years ago. Atmospheric CO2 levels have increased markedly in industrial times; measurements in year 2010 at Cape Grim Tasmania and the South Pole both indicated values of 386 ppmv, and are currently increasing at about 2 ppmv/year."
woof
Correlation is not causation, especially when the correlation is not perfect.

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