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Germain renames Honda outlet on Sawmill Road | The Columbus Dispatch

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Germain Motor Co. has renamed Immke Northwest Honda, which it acquired in September from Lucas Auto Group.

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“Bleeding Scarlet and Gray!”

Since: Sep 09

Worthington

#23 Feb 7, 2011
Folks, come on. Those that are complaining about getting ripped off have only themselves to blame. With the internet access to invoices on not only basic vehicle info, but added equipment as well car shopping should be a very simple process. Go test drive the cars you are interested in, make a decision on what vehicle you like the most, and you can literally spend 20 minutes on the internet and walk in and get a great price at any car dealership in the country. I worked in the car business. I sold cars. I had a long list of loyal customers and every time before they came in, I would tell them to go onto the normal websites (edmunds, NADA, autotrader, cars.com , kelly blue book) and get prices on the car they want to buy. Print them off and bring them in. We would then sit and come up with a cumulative price that goes along with the invoices they had in front of them, and they were comfortable with, and I would go to my boss. I sold a high volume of cars (and as much as the consumers hate to know it, there isn't much markup in cars...especially Toyota and Honda) and for that my boss would always make sure to make deals as quickly as possible with my customers. Most salespeople now are younger or new to the business and are truly there to work for you. In my experience, if you are at a dealership and the salesperson always seems to have the right thing to say, that is who you walk away from. The person who seems like they are there to help you, stick with them. Especially if you notice the manager has little contact with you while you are with them. My managers met the majority of my customers one time...when they were taking their keys and leaving the dealership and it was to thank them. So for those who will write me off as a car salesperson that is giving you BS, keep in mind that I no longer work in the business. The hours were too much for me and my family. This is just a little friendly advice. In my experience in the car business, a car purchase is something that people are terrified of. But it doesn't have to be that way. Do your work before hand and it can be an extremely easy process. As for financing, before you go to a dealer, check with a credit union as to what rates they can get you. Then compare with what the dealership can offer. Yes, the dealer marks up the rate a little to make a profit, but keep in mind it is a business and they have to make a profit. But if their marked up rate is better than what you can get on your own, jump on it right? Why pay a higher rate just so the dealer makes a little profit? They get lower rates because of the volume. BUT DO NOT TELL THE DEALER YOUR RATE UNTIL THEY SHOW YOU THEIRS! And always jump on a 0% offer if available. These can be found on the automakers website. Also, edmunds.com usually lists them. Ok that is all, I hope someone finds this helpful. I will never worry about buying a car the rest of my life. We are in the age of technology...this isn't the 80's where prices aren't available. It isn't tough to buy a car any more. So don't make it hard on yourself. And also be respectful of the salesperson, as they are working for their family just like you. If you want to get mad at someone, get mad at the electronics companies. Sony is making a 50% profit margin on televisions...most dealerships are lucky to make a 2 or 3% profit margin on a single vehicle. If you walk in with a bad attitude and a chip on your shoulder, nobody will want to help you and you will be the person going to 5 dealerships, getting into arguments, and complaining on here that you got ripped off!
Yum Yum Sauce

Columbus, OH

#24 Feb 7, 2011
Worthless Degree wrote:
<quoted text>
She probably went to a TTT law school and is unable to find a job. There are too many lawyers out there. She was wise to get out of the legal profession because of market saturation and the fact that many companies are starting to outsource legal services to India.
Nobody cares... Go rant somewhere else.
Yum Yum Sauce

Columbus, OH

#25 Feb 7, 2011
FLABUCK wrote:
Folks, come on. Those that are complaining about getting ripped off have only themselves to blame. With the internet access to invoices on not only basic vehicle info, but added equipment as well car shopping should be a very simple process. Go test drive the cars you are interested in, make a decision on what vehicle you like the most, and you can literally spend 20 minutes on the internet and walk in and get a great price at any car dealership in the country. I worked in the car business. I sold cars. I had a long list of loyal customers and every time before they came in, I would tell them to go onto the normal websites (edmunds, NADA, autotrader, cars.com , kelly blue book) and get prices on the car they want to buy. Print them off and bring them in. We would then sit and come up with a cumulative price that goes along with the invoices they had in front of them, and they were comfortable with, and I would go to my boss. I sold a high volume of cars (and as much as the consumers hate to know it, there isn't much markup in cars...especially Toyota and Honda) and for that my boss would always make sure to make deals as quickly as possible with my customers. Most salespeople now are younger or new to the business and are truly there to work for you. In my experience, if you are at a dealership and the salesperson always seems to have the right thing to say, that is who you walk away from. The person who seems like they are there to help you, stick with them. Especially if you notice the manager has little contact with you while you are with them. My managers met the majority of my customers one time...when they were taking their keys and leaving the dealership and it was to thank them. So for those who will write me off as a car salesperson that is giving you BS, keep in mind that I no longer work in the business. The hours were too much for me and my family. This is just a little friendly advice. In my experience in the car business, a car purchase is something that people are terrified of. But it doesn't have to be that way. Do your work before hand and it can be an extremely easy process. As for financing, before you go to a dealer, check with a credit union as to what rates they can get you. Then compare with what the dealership can offer. Yes, the dealer marks up the rate a little to make a profit, but keep in mind it is a business and they have to make a profit. But if their marked up rate is better than what you can get on your own, jump on it right? Why pay a higher rate just so the dealer makes a little profit? They get lower rates because of the volume. BUT DO NOT TELL THE DEALER YOUR RATE UNTIL THEY SHOW YOU THEIRS! And always jump on a 0% offer if available. These can be found on the automakers website. Also, edmunds.com usually lists them. Ok that is all, I hope someone finds this helpful. I will never worry about buying a car the rest of my life. We are in the age of technology...this isn't the 80's where prices aren't available. It isn't tough to buy a car any more. So don't make it hard on yourself. And also be respectful of the salesperson, as they are working for their family just like you. If you want to get mad at someone, get mad at the electronics companies. Sony is making a 50% profit margin on televisions...most dealerships are lucky to make a 2 or 3% profit margin on a single vehicle. If you walk in with a bad attitude and a chip on your shoulder, nobody will want to help you and you will be the person going to 5 dealerships, getting into arguments, and complaining on here that you got ripped off!
You lost me at "Folks..." Twitter rules should apply to Topix.
R U Serious

Southfield, MI

#26 Feb 7, 2011
FLABUCK wrote:
Folks, come on. Those that are complaining about getting ripped off have only themselves to blame. With the internet access to invoices on not only basic vehicle info, but added equipment as well car shopping should be a very simple process. Go test drive the cars you are interested in, make a decision on what vehicle you like the most, and you can literally spend 20 minutes on the internet and walk in and get a great price at any car dealership in the country. I worked in the car business. I sold cars. I had a long list of loyal customers and every time before they came in, I would tell them to go onto the normal websites (edmunds, NADA, autotrader, cars.com , kelly blue book) and get prices on the car they want to buy. Print them off and bring them in. We would then sit and come up with a cumulative price that goes along with the invoices they had in front of them, and they were comfortable with, and I would go to my boss. I sold a high volume of cars (and as much as the consumers hate to know it, there isn't much markup in cars...especially Toyota and Honda) and for that my boss would always make sure to make deals as quickly as possible with my customers. Most salespeople now are younger or new to the business and are truly there to work for you. In my experience, if you are at a dealership and the salesperson always seems to have the right thing to say, that is who you walk away from. The person who seems like they are there to help you, stick with them. Especially if you notice the manager has little contact with you while you are with them. My managers met the majority of my customers one time...when they were taking their keys and leaving the dealership and it was to thank them. So for those who will write me off as a car salesperson that is giving you BS, keep in mind that I no longer work in the business. The hours were too much for me and my family. This is just a little friendly advice. In my experience in the car business, a car purchase is something that people are terrified of. But it doesn't have to be that way. Do your work before hand and it can be an extremely easy process. As for financing, before you go to a dealer, check with a credit union as to what rates they can get you. Then compare with what the dealership can offer. Yes, the dealer marks up the rate a little to make a profit, but keep in mind it is a business and they have to make a profit. But if their marked up rate is better than what you can get on your own, jump on it right? Why pay a higher rate just so the dealer makes a little profit? They get lower rates because of the volume. BUT DO NOT TELL THE DEALER YOUR RATE UNTIL THEY SHOW YOU THEIRS! And always jump on a 0% offer if available. These can be found on the automakers website. Also, edmunds.com usually lists them. Ok that is all, I hope someone finds this helpful. I will never worry about buying a car the rest of my life. We are in the age of technology...this isn't the 80's where prices aren't available. It isn't tough to buy a car any more. So don't make it hard on yourself. And also be respectful of the salesperson, as they are working for their family just like you. If you want to get mad at someone, get mad at the electronics companies. Sony is making a 50% profit margin on televisions...most dealerships are lucky to make a 2 or 3% profit margin on a single vehicle. If you walk in with a bad attitude and a chip on your shoulder, nobody will want to help you and you will be the person going to 5 dealerships, getting into arguments, and complaining on here that you got ripped off!
What kind of crap is this? Which car dealership do you work for? Don't jump on 0% financing because you will have to pay MSRP on the vehicle. They have to make their money somehow.
ralan

Columbus, OH

#27 Feb 7, 2011
Doesn't matter what the name is if they treat their customers like C R A P.

Remember, it isn't considered libel/slander if what is said is true.
Bodie

Chillicothe, OH

#28 Feb 7, 2011
IF my kids had went to college to get a degree and ended up selling cars I would demand all my money back from the college for not doing a better job with them.
Car sales in Ohio is full of convicted felons, high school drop outs etc. You could be taking a test drive with a registered sex offender.
Grouchy

Columbus, OH

#29 Feb 7, 2011
R U Serious wrote:
<quoted text>
What kind of crap is this? Which car dealership do you work for? Don't jump on 0% financing because you will have to pay MSRP on the vehicle. They have to make their money somehow.
The trick is to let them think all along that you plan to finance the car with them. Then after you have gotten them down to the best deal, announce at the last minute that you want to use your credit union.

“Bleeding Scarlet and Gray!”

Since: Sep 09

Worthington

#30 Feb 7, 2011
R U Serious wrote:
<quoted text>
What kind of crap is this? Which car dealership do you work for? Don't jump on 0% financing because you will have to pay MSRP on the vehicle. They have to make their money somehow.
Obviously you didn't read my entire post, or you would have seen that I don't work for any dealership any more...I don't work in the business. If you think you have to pay MSRP if you take 0%, you are just another uneducated car buyer. The 0% comes from the factory incentives/auto manufacturer preferred bank...the dealership doesn't finance the car. That was a stupid comment. I bought a $31,000 Toyota for $27,395 and have 0% financing for 60 months. I guess I didn't pay MSRP right? And I bought it after I left the business.

“Bleeding Scarlet and Gray!”

Since: Sep 09

Worthington

#31 Feb 7, 2011
Bodie wrote:
IF my kids had went to college to get a degree and ended up selling cars I would demand all my money back from the college for not doing a better job with them.
Car sales in Ohio is full of convicted felons, high school drop outs etc. You could be taking a test drive with a registered sex offender.
Congrats on the generalization...if I raised my kid and they made comments like you just did I would hate myself for letting my child grow up with such a narrow minded view of others. By the way, I graduated college, played college sports, and live a very comfortable life. I have run into people from all professions that are 10 times worse than some of the car salesmen I worked with. I have also seen my fair share of a-holes that I had to work with in the profession. Either way, nice job painting an entire group with the same brush. I bet you still want black and white restrooms.

“Bleeding Scarlet and Gray!”

Since: Sep 09

Worthington

#32 Feb 7, 2011
Grouchy wrote:
<quoted text>
The trick is to let them think all along that you plan to finance the car with them. Then after you have gotten them down to the best deal, announce at the last minute that you want to use your credit union.
This is actually a very good suggestion. But on average a dealership gives up between $500 and $1,000 of incentive money when they give you 0% financing. If it's available, don't let them know that you want to use it and come up with the deal, then say you want the 0%. If you did your homework and got a good deal upfront, they may charge you $500 more for the car, but that offsets a lot of money in finance charges even at 3.5% or 4%.
wth

Groveport, OH

#33 Feb 7, 2011
Bodie wrote:
IF my kids had went to college to get a degree and ended up selling cars I would demand all my money back from the college for not doing a better job with them.
Car sales in Ohio is full of convicted felons, high school drop outs etc. You could be taking a test drive with a registered sex offender.
Wow, what an ego you have! I would rather people sell cars, then sit at home all day procreating and wasting my tax money on tattoos, lottery tickets, and cigarettes.

I respect anyone who makes their living in sales. It is a brutal, stressful, and very competitive way to make a buck.

Based on your comment, I presume that you are name dropper and love titles.
Ima Nerd

Southfield, MI

#34 Feb 7, 2011
FLABUCK wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously you didn't read my entire post, or you would have seen that I don't work for any dealership any more...I don't work in the business. If you think you have to pay MSRP if you take 0%, you are just another uneducated car buyer. The 0% comes from the factory incentives/auto manufacturer preferred bank...the dealership doesn't finance the car. That was a stupid comment. I bought a $31,000 Toyota for $27,395 and have 0% financing for 60 months. I guess I didn't pay MSRP right? And I bought it after I left the business.
I assume what you wrote is true. Then you must have paid at invoice. Your credit score must be in the 800's if you can get 0% financing. Did you have to pay a finance charge? And another thing, who in their right mind would pay $27,000 for a depreciable asset? OMG. Looks like the star car salesperson got duped.

“Bleeding Scarlet and Gray!”

Since: Sep 09

Worthington

#36 Feb 7, 2011
Ima Nerd wrote:
<quoted text>
I assume what you wrote is true. Then you must have paid at invoice. Your credit score must be in the 800's if you can get 0% financing. Did you have to pay a finance charge? And another thing, who in their right mind would pay $27,000 for a depreciable asset? OMG. Looks like the star car salesperson got duped.
Actually, you only need a 720 credit score in most cases, some even have an incentive from the automaker to give the 0% to a 690 and above. There was no finance charge. And I bought a new car as a safe mode of transportation for my family. You know what they say about used cars? You are buying someone else's problems. The other option is to buy a used car at a dealership....with overinflated pricing where you are upside down immediately anyways. Used cars is where the dealership makes a lot of money...that and in the service department. And everything I am saying IS true, I have no reason to lie. Just trying to give those that actually look for advice and don't jump all over me a way to go and save themselves some money. Just to give you an idea, the dealership I worked for average profit on a new car:$700. Average profit on a used car:$2,200. This includes cars they took losses on because they were in inventory for so long. So a word of advice, if you are going to buy a used car buy private. And make sure you have a mechanic you trust to check it out...buying someone else's problems.
Sterling Silver

Columbus, OH

#37 Feb 7, 2011
GetSchooled wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't you read what I wrote? You should not, under any circumstances, borrow money to buy a car. You can afford as much car as you can pay cash for. People who follow this rule all their lives have money when they retire. People who spend their lives making $500,$600, even $700 per month car payments (sometimes two car payments at once!!!) end up broke when they are old. People who are making car payments will rationalize it eight ways to Sunday, but the hard cold truth is that borrowing money to buy or lease a depreciating asset is financially idiotic.
And yet it is those people who help keep the economy going. People who get a 5.9% loan for 4 years on a $25,000 car are simply downsizing from a $28,127 car they could have paid cash for...if they had it. For some that's a sacrifice they're willing to make.

And if no one bought new cars, eventually there wouldn't be any used cars.

Sometimes you need a little intelligence to see clearly.
Sterling Silver

Columbus, OH

#38 Feb 7, 2011
Yum Yum Sauce wrote:
<quoted text>
You lost me at "Folks..." Twitter rules should apply to Topix.
Now I see why your arguments make no sense, you obviously have ADHD and can't comprehend complicated concepts. Or do you want me to use smaller words?

“Bleeding Scarlet and Gray!”

Since: Sep 09

Worthington

#39 Feb 7, 2011
Yes, everyone on here should take advice from the guys who say they get ripped off. Take advice from the guy with the "the world is against me" mindset that do the same thing over and over. They are the least happy customers about their purchase, make the whole buying experience stressful for themselves and everyone around them, and usually are the ones who get screwed. At some point as a dealer, you get a little bit of an attitude with the guy who is being an idiot, and you won't give them the deal that you would to someone who is polite. Surveys of sold customers also provide dealers a lot of incentive money. If you get bad surveys, your incentive money goes down, GM salary goes down, sales managers salaries, etc. So at some point, it is bad business to sell a car to an a-hole. So keep judging my posts (juvenile by the way) and take advice from the miserable car buyers. That will get you far on your next purchase!
Prop 13

Pickerington, OH

#42 Feb 7, 2011
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/business...

Right, Steve. You're not going to change the name.
Enzyte Bob

Pickerington, OH

#43 Feb 7, 2011
The bigger issue here is that Germain LIED about this. When they first bought the dealership, they LIED that they weren't going to change the name.

... Just as they LIED that their Chevy dealership didn't get a termination notice from GM in 2009.

... Just as the are trying to welch on their deal and break their lease with Aldahan now that the Chevy dealer is closed.

Seriously, would you want to hand over $20,000+ to liars?

I'm also sure the The Dispatch will delete this post, because they are not comfortable with people posting the truth. Stick to the official press release or you will be banned.
Enzyte Bob

Pickerington, OH

#44 Feb 7, 2011
Bubba wrote:
You have better choices then Germain for a HONDA.
Honda of Marysville
John Hinderer Honda
Nourse Honda in Chillicothe
Lindsey Honda
and many others all with websites where you can get honest up front prices plus other non dealer sites that will give you prices.
NEVER let a dealer "arrange" your financing because they add "points" to the car loan that will increase the interest rate and cause you to pay a higher payment and be deeper in debt.
LMAO! Have you seen the poor reviews Hinderer gets? And Honda of Marysville is owned by Mike Devers in Cincinnazi (also owns Toyota Direct on Morse Rd. and Performance Chrysler on the west side).

Can you explain to me how the Toyota Direct people are any better than the Germains? They are SLIME. Not to mention the fact that you are sending Columbus money down to Cincinnazi instead of keeping it in Columbus.

Nourse, Lindsay and Hugh White are all okay, but Roush Honda is the BEST. It's also employee owned and it shows in how they deal with the customer.
Will Burns

Cypress, TX

#45 Feb 7, 2011
Don't plan to buy any honda vehicals but I have bought several Toyotas both new and used. Germain has proven to be a good dealer to me as well as Toyota Direct on Morse rd. I have been looking at a Sprinter Van it will probably be a Mercedes from Germain. My choices are frieghtliner or Mercedes and FYDA Frieghtliner doesn't want to deal much.

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