Internet sales tax near vote

Internet sales tax near vote

There are 47 comments on the The Columbus Dispatch story from May 6, 2013, titled Internet sales tax near vote. In it, The Columbus Dispatch reports that:

John Marshall has witnessed the scene too many times: Customers come in, take a look at the tires his company sells, then head out to buy the same product online - just so they can avoid paying the sales tax.

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“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#21 May 6, 2013
GlitterSucks wrote:
I do feel for the internet stores; bookkeeping will be a nightmare for these on-line sales entrepreneurs. Sales tax in this state, sales tax in that state...understand the brick and mortar stores losing business, but you can't make it difficult to compete when you choose a different venue to sell your wares. Tax internet sales with a flat tax.
It shouldn't be up to the retailer to collect "other states'" taxes. It should be up to consumers to be honest. I don't buy a lot on the internet, but what I do buy I include on my state tax return and pay the Ohio sales tax on it.

Since: Apr 13

Columbus, OH

#22 May 6, 2013
zoe wrote:
No, to internet tax. Big Ears said there would be no new taxes.
That was George H.W. Bush who said that. Or was it 'no new Texans?'

Since: Apr 13

Columbus, OH

#23 May 6, 2013
GlitterSucks wrote:
<quoted text>Not sure what the answer is. From my understanding it could be debilitating to small on-line businesses. I sympathize with all businesses trying to make a go of it. In my opinion, it's a conundrum.
I've been saying for nearly a decade, do away with all taxes, implement a single transaction tax, which is collected immediately whenever any transaction is made. We could be back in the red in no time and the only ones who'll get hurt are the one's who can brings us to the brink and over.

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#24 May 6, 2013
During the 2008 campaign, when candidate Obama was seeking our votes, he pledged in Dover, New Hampshire on Sept. 12, 2008:

“I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.”

During a nationally televised Vice-Presidential debate in St. Louis on Oct. 3, 2008, candidate Biden repeated the pledge:

“No one making less than $250,000 under Barack Obama’s plan will see one single penny of their tax raised whether it’s their capital gains tax, their income tax, investment tax, any tax.”

Once elected, in an address to a joint session of Congress on Feb. 24, 2009, President Obama restated the promise yet again:

“If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not one single dime.”

One of the first acts under the new Obama/Biden Administration, and its totally Democrat controlled Congress, was to raise the cigarette tax by 62 cents. Memo to Democrats: people who make less than $250,000 a year buy cigarettes too. They were promised that none of their taxes in any form would be raised a single dime, or even a single penny.

Then the hyperpartisan Obamacare bill imposed 7 new taxes that also applied to people making less than $250,000 a year, including new taxes on health insurance, health savings accounts, medical devices, and itemized health services. Indeed, the Obamacare Individual Mandate requiring all citizens to buy the expensive health insurance Obamacare requires is itself effectively a tax on the middle class, enforced by a tax penalty on the middle class, working people and the poor who do not comply. Obamacare is consequently another brazen violation of the Obama/Biden tax pledge.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013...

-Clayton Bigsby

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#25 May 6, 2013
Once interstate taxation is opened up for sales taxes, the state and local governments will be back to Congress asking for authority to impose income taxes across state lines, where the real money is. New York City has its own city income tax, and it is jealous of the income earned by residents of New Jersey and Connecticut within the city that they take back home. New York state will join the city when it goes to Congress to ask for authority to impose income taxes on residents of the neighboring states.

We see the same in the District of Columbia, which long has lusted for income tax authority over residents of Virginia and Maryland that work within the District. And what about residents of New Hampshire that go to work in Boston, or the residents of any of the 9 no state income tax states that go to work in any of the surrounding states?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013...

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#26 May 6, 2013
I think states' jurisdiction should remain within states' borders. The states need to go after their citizens who they believe aren't paying taxes, not burden businesses outside their boundaries.

“Zuzu's Petals”

Since: Sep 10

Bedford Falls

#27 May 6, 2013
Big Ears said no new taxes! Steve Stivers is in favor because he wants more public servants and this could pay for it. I called his office and said why would he want more public servants in a state with a declining population. Soon we will be like Michigan. How about some jobs? 6.3 trillion for their stupid immigration bill? They are all crazy!
My Turn

Arlington Heights, IL

#28 May 6, 2013
zoe wrote:
No, to internet tax. Big Ears said there would be no new taxes.
The chief sponsor of this bill is Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois. Of course, Chicago's sales tax is 10 percent, including food and medicine, and they still don't have enough money.
They cannot kill a Spook

Taylor, MI

#29 May 6, 2013
States trying to collect tax on sales to residents by out of state vendors has been something greedy politicians have cried about long before the internet. I can recall ordering from catalogs and on the order form seeing tax rates for various states with notations like if you reside in New York etc.

The problen if the national collection of state taxes on internet sales passes, it will not be long before counties and cities will be crying for their additional sales tax rates too.

Since: Apr 13

Columbus, OH

#30 May 6, 2013
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
States trying to collect tax on sales to residents by out of state vendors has been something greedy politicians have cried about long before the internet. I can recall ordering from catalogs and on the order form seeing tax rates for various states with notations like if you reside in New York etc.
The problen if the national collection of state taxes on internet sales passes, it will not be long before counties and cities will be crying for their additional sales tax rates too.
This is one of the few things we find agreement.

Further, I believe it's unconstitutional for the Federal Government to involve itself in States affairs.

The problem lies in sales taxes themselves. They shouldn't exist.
VADoc

Warrenville, SC

#31 May 6, 2013
GlitterSucks wrote:
<quoted text>Where did I reference Ohio? I simply stated that they have already started charging sales tax. Amazon has more facilities that would be affected than e-bay.
Yep they have a warehouse in South Carolina. So this past year while doing state taxes for South Carolina I had to pay sales tax from amazon. I wouldn't mind it so much except that I pay taxes because they have a warehouse in my state yet it takes longer to get my goods from amazon now that I live in the same state as the warehouse than it did when I lived in Ohio.

You all are right once this goes through then the local governments will want their pound of flesh.

“Paper Or Plastic?”

Since: Nov 11

Albakoikee

#32 May 6, 2013
Unless free shipping is offered, most of us aren't saving jack by not paying taxes on internet buys. As far as the original story line goes, how can you save by buying tires online when you have to pay shipping costs, mounting and balancing?
They cannot kill a Spook

Taylor, MI

#33 May 6, 2013
rowdy01 wrote:
Unless free shipping is offered, most of us aren't saving jack by not paying taxes on internet buys. As far as the original story line goes, how can you save by buying tires online when you have to pay shipping costs, mounting and balancing?
I have bought solid tires and have always saved even though there was shipping over local places. Probably would save on standard tires though.

Tools often a cheaper online including shipping than from brick and mortar or mac/snapon/matco/cornwell

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#34 May 6, 2013
rowdy01 wrote:
Unless free shipping is offered, most of us aren't saving jack by not paying taxes on internet buys. As far as the original story line goes, how can you save by buying tires online when you have to pay shipping costs, mounting and balancing?
Do you really believe that mounting, balancing, and wheel alignments (to those who offer them) are "free". No, they're included in the cost of the tires. That's how much they're marked up at the retailer.

“Paper Or Plastic?”

Since: Nov 11

Albakoikee

#35 May 6, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you really believe that mounting, balancing, and wheel alignments (to those who offer them) are "free". No, they're included in the cost of the tires. That's how much they're marked up at the retailer.
Sure, I know the service is included in the pricing, if you buy the tires at a local shop. Who pays for mounting, balancing, etc. if you buy online and have them delivered to your home?

“Hi-Yo Silver! Away!”

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#36 May 6, 2013
rowdy01 wrote:
Unless free shipping is offered, most of us aren't saving jack by not paying taxes on internet buys. As far as the original story line goes, how can you save by buying tires online when you have to pay shipping costs, mounting and balancing?
And when you get a bad set, are you gonna be able to return 'em? More shipping, and you're out a set until they send them back, IF they don't totally blow you off about your return. Buy 'em from a store, and if you need to return 'em, you're back on the road in an hour or so.

Some things, it makes a lot more sense to buy 'em from an actual store. And pay the tax.

“Paper Or Plastic?”

Since: Nov 11

Albakoikee

#37 May 6, 2013
Kemosahbe wrote:
<quoted text>
And when you get a bad set, are you gonna be able to return 'em? More shipping, and you're out a set until they send them back, IF they don't totally blow you off about your return. Buy 'em from a store, and if you need to return 'em, you're back on the road in an hour or so.
Some things, it makes a lot more sense to buy 'em from an actual store. And pay the tax.
Absolutely right! You aren't really saving if you only avoid paying sales tax.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#38 May 6, 2013
rowdy01 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, I know the service is included in the pricing, if you buy the tires at a local shop. Who pays for mounting, balancing, etc. if you buy online and have them delivered to your home?
You do, at whatever facility you choose (usually they ship to your chosen installer), and you'll still almost always come out ahead. And have a bigger selection to boot.

Since: Apr 13

Columbus, OH

#39 May 6, 2013
Kemosahbe wrote:
<quoted text>
And when you get a bad set, are you gonna be able to return 'em? More shipping, and you're out a set until they send them back, IF they don't totally blow you off about your return. Buy 'em from a store, and if you need to return 'em, you're back on the road in an hour or so.
Some things, it makes a lot more sense to buy 'em from an actual store. And pay the tax.
Tires and cars aren't very good things to buy online. You've nailed it on the tires. I have a local dealer that I've built a solid relationship with. The only way he could save me more, according to him, is if I get their credit card (it's a Visa, I believe, with their logo)

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#40 May 6, 2013
I shouldn't have said bigger selection, because most retail shops can order whatever you want (probably from the same place you'd order them from).

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