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“Old Right”

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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/katie-yoder/2013...

The genocidal left at again, with a smile!
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Hahaha, I like the quote “Keep Your Rosaries Off My Ovaries”, that's just funny.
They cannot kill a Spook

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So long as democrats are having abortions I a all for abortion on demand. Keep those rusty coat hangers and wet-dry vacs at the ready.

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My head hurt reading that. Really, who's restricting whose choices? All of our choices in life are limited--and when pregnant, you have 2 choices: pregnancy or abortion. Just because I don't want to pay for your abortion via taxes or higher health care premiums, doesn't mean you can't have one...it just means I want to keep my money and have nothing to do with your morals--YOU pay for it. I'm tired of these uber libs projecting their wants and needs into being a problem with someone else's morals. It's not MANDATORY motherhood, it's making the CHOICE to have sex...

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gokeefe wrote:
My head hurt reading that. Really, who's restricting whose choices? All of our choices in life are limited--and when pregnant, you have 2 choices: pregnancy or abortion. Just because I don't want to pay for your abortion via taxes or higher health care premiums, doesn't mean you can't have one...it just means I want to keep my money and have nothing to do with your morals--YOU pay for it. I'm tired of these uber libs projecting their wants and needs into being a problem with someone else's morals. It's not MANDATORY motherhood, it's making the CHOICE to have sex...
Gotta agree with you. I'm all for letting people make their own choices as long as it doesn't come out of my pocket.

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Gotta agree with you. I'm all for letting people make their own choices as long as it doesn't come out of my pocket.
Seriously. I'm even Catholic. I totally realize I can't control anyone's choices or life. I only have control over my own. It's such a stupid guilt trip these uber libs lay on those who oppose abortion on moral grounds and strive to minimize it with their bs about our "nazi" morals and putting our "rosaries on their ovaries." I'd say 90% of us do not protest in front of abortion clinics, pay our taxes, pay inflated health insurance premiums, etc. I've got better things to do than protest in front of an abortion clinic and stick my nose into your bedroom.

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rowdy01 wrote:
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Gotta agree with you. I'm all for letting people make their own choices as long as it doesn't come out of my pocket.
The left sees abortion as a negative and positive right.

What that means is that they think a woman doesn't have a "choice" unless the following conditions are met

-The Government doesn't restrict abortion
-The state provides support for abortion for those who can't afford it
-The state provides means of support if she cannot support the child and "chooses" to have it

Of course, I agree with none of that because the will of two persons is not considered, the father and the child.

As I see it, two persons contributed to the child, and the child itself is a person.

*In 98% of cases, abortion is elective. <2% is rape, incest, life of mother

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I totally realize I can't control anyone's choices or life. I only have control over my own.
No man is an island

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No man is an island
No man is responsible for the actions, thoughts, or deeds of another. Financially, morally, or otherwise. That was my thinking.
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gokeefe wrote:
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No man is responsible for the actions, thoughts, or deeds of another. Financially, morally, or otherwise. That was my thinking.
That is the sort of Christian thinking I expect from your ilk.

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Big Johnson wrote:
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That is the sort of Christian thinking I expect from your ilk.
My ilk? I really don't do groupthink, moron.

I cannot control another. Neither can you. Come to think of it, I doubt you can control yourself.
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If men carried the fetuses and popped em out you all would have quite different opinions.

And that's the truth.

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Duke for Mayor wrote:
If men carried the fetuses and popped em out you all would have quite different opinions.
And that's the truth.
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That's a spurious argument.

The primary physical difference between male and female is the reproductive organs.

The essence of the difference is that males perform fertilization, and females, gestation.

Our system intends that if a child is born, the father must support it under penalty of law. Being a lawyer, I assume you know a great deal about this.

What it does not factor, is that the father is not given any consultation regarding a termination, a tremendous violation of "equality" in favor of female primacy.

It takes "two to tango" but the law has selective view on that.

Let alone considering the interest of the child.

The bearer of the sperm has as many rights and privileges as the bearer of the egg, a just legal regime would recognize that.

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They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
So long as democrats are having abortions I a all for abortion on demand. Keep those rusty coat hangers and wet-dry vacs at the ready.
A point to add, you should advocate mandatory sterilization for those getting abortions as well. Those irresponsible enough to abort shouldn't be having kids in any place.
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-The-Artist- wrote:
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A point to add, you should advocate mandatory sterilization for those getting abortions as well. Those irresponsible enough to abort shouldn't be having kids in any place.
Strange though isn't it, you don't mention vasectomies at all.

See what I mean, Karl?

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-The-Artist- wrote:
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That's a spurious argument.
The primary physical difference between male and female is the reproductive organs.
The essence of the difference is that males perform fertilization, and females, gestation.
Our system intends that if a child is born, the father must support it under penalty of law. Being a lawyer, I assume you know a great deal about this.
What it does not factor, is that the father is not given any consultation regarding a termination, a tremendous violation of "equality" in favor of female primacy.
It takes "two to tango" but the law has selective view on that.
Let alone considering the interest of the child.
The bearer of the sperm has as many rights and privileges as the bearer of the egg, a just legal regime would recognize that.
Here is the problem with your argument Karl:
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<quoted text>The bearer of the sperm has as many rights and privileges as the bearer of the egg, a just legal regime would recognize that.
Your analogy is flawed because you have neglected the fact that it is the female who bears the child, and instead focused upon the fact that the female carries the egg.

That's my entire point. If instead men, who typically hold more sway in positions of law making authority actually suffered the pain and medical issues related to pregnancy and childbirth, things would be much different. There would not be nearly as much controversy about the legalities and restrictions of abortion.

Its not a spurious argument whatsoever. Overwhelmingly, white men make laws
in America.

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Strange though isn't it, you don't mention vasectomies at all.
See what I mean, Karl?
woof
The feminine equivalent to a vasectomy is a tube-tying, not an abortion.

The closest you get would be castration, and that isn't designed to kill anyone.

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Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Here is the problem with your argument Karl:
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Your analogy is flawed because you have neglected the fact that it is the female who bears the child, and instead focused upon the fact that the female carries the egg.
That's my entire point. If instead men, who typically hold more sway in positions of law making authority actually suffered the pain and medical issues related to pregnancy and childbirth, things would be much different. There would not be nearly as much controversy about the legalities and restrictions of abortion.
Its not a spurious argument whatsoever. Overwhelmingly, white men make laws
in America.
woof
The father carries no right to "abort" the child support obligation prior to pregnancy

White men ruled on Roe v Wade
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My ilk? I really don't do groupthink, moron.
That's because "groupthink" requires think.
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-The-Artist- wrote:
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The feminine equivalent to a vasectomy is a tube-tying, not an abortion.
The closest you get would be castration, and that isn't designed to kill anyone.
Read his post in context with yours again and give that response another try.

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