With NSA spying, Obama feels wrath of the left

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Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#1 Jun 8, 2013
Into his fifth year in office, President Obama knows well attacks from the right. Obamacare, Benghazi, IRS shenanigans, he’s taken his lumps from Republicans and conservative activists.“Impeach him!” many cry. Only occasionally is he whacked from the left (see Guantánamo Bay prison camp).

But these days, it seems like the roles are reversed. Liberals are after Obama, while the likes of Republican political operative Karl Rove are in his corner.

The subject, of course, is government secret surveillance of phone records, a vacuum-cleaner approach whose purpose is heading off terrorist attacks but which pokes into what most people think of as private information.

“Big Data,” we are told, now includes the ability to surreptitiously obtain and store information from e-mail and social media, deriving information about peoples’ habits, friendships, and preferences using data-mining formulas and increasingly powerful computers. And you thought those full-body scanners at the airport left you feeling a bit … naked.

As president and commander-in-chief in charge of preventing the next terrorist attack, Obama has to take responsibility and explain such snooping to the American people, which he tried to do Friday in California.

Still, says former vice president Al Gore, the recently-reported electronic spying is “obscenely outrageous.” The American Civil Liberties Union calls it “beyond Orwellian.”

David Corn at Mother Jones suggests that “the Obama gang may finally have a real scandal on its hand – not a scandal of wrongdoing or unethical conduct, but one of government overreach.”

The unkindest cut of all? That Obama is the same here as the man who launched the Iraq war, and then followed up with secret domestic spying – a point made angrily from the left and gleefully from the right.

“Drone strikes. Wiretaps. Gitmo. Renditions. Military commissions. Obama is carrying out Bush’s fourth term, yet he attacked Bush for violating the Constitution,” Ari Fleischer, George W. Bush’s press secretary, told Politico.com , adding that Obama was “vindicating Bush.” You can almost hear the glee in his voice.

In a 1,134-word editorial Thursday, the usually-liberal New York Times writes that “the administration has now lost all credibility on this issue.”

“Mr. Obama is proving the truism that the executive branch will use any power it is given and very likely abuse it,” the influential publication’s editorial board scolds.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2013/06...

Since: Jan 13

Returning with a vengeance

#2 Jun 8, 2013
Time to split their base on drilling, amnesty and the scandals.

GOP needs to grow some balls and be divisive.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#3 Jun 8, 2013
Georgie is upset at President Obama for behaving like a Republican. Why?

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#4 Jun 8, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
Georgie is upset at President Obama for behaving like a Republican. Why?
Yet you're not. Why is that, kneepadder?
Bush never did anything like this, and you know it.

Since: Jan 13

Returning with a vengeance

#5 Jun 8, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Yet you're not. Why is that, kneepadder?
Bush never did anything like this, and you know it.
This is what Bush was accused of doing. The tech industry being buds with the left made it easier for them.

Scratch a tech entrepreneur, reveal a totalitarian.

Bill Gates-eugenicist
Eric Schmidt-Big Brother
Mark Zuckerberg-creep
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#6 Jun 8, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Yet you're not. Why is that, kneepadder?
Bush never did anything like this, and you know it.
How would you know that, Georgie. It's all classified. When will you be joining the ACLU and buying your Mother Jones subscription?

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#7 Jun 8, 2013
-The-Artist- wrote:
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This is what Bush was accused of doing. The tech industry being buds with the left made it easier for them.
Scratch a tech entrepreneur, reveal a totalitarian.
Bill Gates-eugenicist
Eric Schmidt-Big Brother
Mark Zuckerberg-creep
Yep. Goes to show you that even ideas in fiction are based in truth to a point...there's a certain Bondian villain quality to an awful lot of these tools.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#8 Jun 8, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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How would you know that, Georgie. It's all classified. When will you be joining the ACLU and buying your Mother Jones subscription?
It's all being LEAKED, you moron. I suggest you start reading The Guardian.
Are you at least going to make Karl Rove and Lindsey Graham buy you dinner at Red Lobster before they bone you?

Since: Jan 13

Returning with a vengeance

#9 Jun 8, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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How would you know that, Georgie. It's all classified. When will you be joining the ACLU and buying your Mother Jones subscription?
ACLU is pro-amnesty and abortion, also hates the 2A.

Since: Jan 13

Returning with a vengeance

#10 Jun 8, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>I I suggest you start reading The Guardian
They need the readers
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#11 Jun 9, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>It's all being LEAKED, you moron. I suggest you start reading The Guardian.
Are you at least going to make Karl Rove and Lindsey Graham buy you dinner at Red Lobster before they bone you?
The details of how the Bush administration has used this program has all been leaked, eh? You've read all of that already, eh?

I have no idea what the Rove and Graham statement is supposed to mean other than your obsession with gay sex.

Since: Sep 08

Neon City Oh.

#12 Jun 9, 2013
We could be working to end that silliness, if republicans were interested in doing anything but whining about Obama.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#13 Jun 9, 2013
WDRussell wrote:
We could be working to end that silliness, if republicans were interested in doing anything but whining about Obama.
You a-holes whined ablut Bush for EIGHT YEARS. But never an admonition for them to "work" from you then, right Tyrone?

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#14 Jun 9, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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The details of how the Bush administration has used this program has all been leaked, eh? You've read all of that already, eh?
I have no idea what the Rove and Graham statement is supposed to mean other than your obsession with gay sex.
Bush certainly didn't have PRISM. It was authorized under the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, signed by Bush on July 10, 2008.

How can the idea of Rove and Graham with you be gay? You're female, despite your screaming protests to the contrary.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#15 Jun 9, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>You're female, despite your screaming protests to the contrary.
This sums you up perfectly.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#16 Jun 9, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Bush certainly didn't have PRISM. It was authorized under the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, signed by Bush on July 10, 2008.
You sure about that, 3.1?
Neutral Party

Louisville, KY

#17 Jun 9, 2013
Yes true left wingers are mad at the admin. Just more broken promises. They still agree ideologically, yet are mad at things like Club Gitmo, transparency and much more.

Except for the followers of the left. Those that blindly follow and have trouble deciphering truth from reality and lip service vs actions. They still believe the admin does these things for the better of the country. Those that fall into this category:

Che "the anti-christ"
Rose "Mnfp1979"

Have I left anyone out?

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#18 Jun 9, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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You sure about that, 3.1?
Quite.

Its creation was enabled by the Protect America Act of 2007 under President Bush and the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, which legally immunized private companies that cooperated voluntarily with US intelligence collection and was renewed by Congress under President Obama in 2012 for five years until December 2017.[7][20]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveil...

The FISA Amendments Act of 2008 (also called the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 Amendments Act of 2008, H.R. 6304, enacted 2008-07-10) is an Act of Congress that amended the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.[1]

2008-07-10: President George W. Bush signed the bill into law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intellig...
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#19 Jun 9, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Quite.
Its creation was enabled by the Protect America Act of 2007 under President Bush and the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, which legally immunized private companies that cooperated voluntarily with US intelligence collection and was renewed by Congress under President Obama in 2012 for five years until December 2017.[7][20]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveil...
The FISA Amendments Act of 2008 (also called the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 Amendments Act of 2008, H.R. 6304, enacted 2008-07-10) is an Act of Congress that amended the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.[1]
2008-07-10: President George W. Bush signed the bill into law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intellig...
You just contradicted yourself in your own posts. Thanks.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#20 Jun 9, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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You just contradicted yourself in your own posts. Thanks.
Then show the evidence, little girl.

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