Gay teacher fired by Catholic school claims discrimination

Apr 23, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: World Magazine

Carla Hale, 59, a lesbian P.E. teacher, has filed a grievance against the diocese of the Ohio Catholic school where she worked for 19 years until administrators fired her for "violating moral law." According to The Columbus Dispatch , Hale's sexual orientation became public when an obituary for her late mother published Hale's name along with the ... (more)

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Since: Apr 13

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#1362 May 6, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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I did.
I do not see a specific citation.
Just your usual claims to understand what my innermost thoughts and feelings are.
You've laid them out on this forum for years and we all know them too well.

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#1363 May 6, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
Why doesn't the church advocate the stoning to death of adulterers in their midst?
The strawman set you straight yesterday.
You're becoming obtusely redundant, like Reader.

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#1364 May 6, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Should I forgive you?
You have not acknowledged your error nor repented.
Again, that passage applies only to fellow Christians.
Your years' of Topix posts confirm you hold to an ideology that directly contradicts the Word of God.

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#1365 May 6, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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I saw the portion that you posted.
And I have asked multiple times for the wording that people seem convinced is there that she "clearly" agreed to.
I await enlightenment.
George enlightened you in Post #1317.
You, however, remain impervious to truth.

Why?
Because it conflicts with your ideology.

Since: Apr 13

Columbus, OH

#1366 May 6, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Again, that passage applies only to fellow Christians.
Your years' of Topix posts confirm you hold to an ideology that directly contradicts the Word of God.
no kid, she's the closest to what Christ himself taught. You regressives keep digging back to the Old Law that Jesus himself replaced.

Read a bible or two. The messiah rebuked the customs and manner of the temple and the leaders. He hung out with 'the sinners and publicans' They tried to condemn him for that and well...read all about.

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#1367 May 6, 2013
St of Circumstance wrote:
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no kid, she's the closest to what Christ himself taught. You regressives keep digging back to the Old Law that Jesus himself replaced.
Read a bible or two. The messiah rebuked the customs and manner of the temple and the leaders. He hung out with 'the sinners and publicans' They tried to condemn him for that and well...read all about.
Repetition is the key to learning:

Paul stated repeatedly that Christians are not under the Old Testament Law. In Galatians 2:15–16 he wrote, "A man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ." In Romans 7:4 Paul stated, "You also died to the law through the body of Christ." In Galatians 3:25 he declared, "Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law." Paul argued vigorously against Christians returning to the Old Testament Law.

Jesus said in Matthew 5:17, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." Jesus did not claim that He came to observe the Law or to keep the Law; rather He came to fulfill it. Jesus was saying that He did not come to sweep away the righteous demands of the Law, but that He came to fulfill its righteous demands. In addition, Jesus was the final Interpreter of and Authority over the Law and its meaning, as other passages in Matthew indicate. Jesus restated some of the Old Testament laws (19:18–19); some He modified (5:31–32); some He intensified (5:21–22, 27–28 ); and, others He changed significantly (5:33–37, 38–42, 43–47). Some laws He abrogated entirely (Mark 7:15–19). Jesus was not advocating the continuation of the traditional Jewish approach of adherence to the Law, nor was He advocating that the Law be dismissed altogether. He was proclaiming that the meaning of the Law must be interpreted in light of His coming and in light of the profound changes introduced by the New Covenant through his sacrifice.

No matter which translation you read, God's condemnation of homosexual practice was clearly restated in the New Testament, in Romans 1:26-27:

"...Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."

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#1368 May 6, 2013
St of Circumstance wrote:
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no kid, she's the closest to what Christ himself taught. You regressives keep digging back to the Old Law that Jesus himself replaced.
Read a bible or two. The messiah rebuked the customs and manner of the temple and the leaders. He hung out with 'the sinners and publicans' They tried to condemn him for that and well...read all about.
Jesus called "the sinners and publicans" to repentance.
Without repentance, there is no salvation.

Luke 5:30-32

And the Pharisees and their scribes grumbled at his disciples, saying,“Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?” And Jesus answered them,“Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.”

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#1369 May 6, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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The strawman set you straight yesterday.
By throwing a nonsensically irrelevant label at me? Puhleese.

You hang on to that poor excuse though, if it keeps you safe.

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#1370 May 6, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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By throwing a nonsensically irrelevant label at me? Puhleese.
You hang on to that poor excuse though, if it keeps you safe.
Document where the RCC is calling for the execution of same-sex practitioners.
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As you can see, your comment has no relevance.

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#1371 May 6, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Document where the RCC is calling for the execution of same-sex practitioners.
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As you can see, your comment has no relevance.
If you answered the question, I'd show you the relevance. You won't though.

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Planet Earth

#1372 May 6, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Document where the RCC is calling for the execution of same-sex practitioners.
I haven't made, nor do I intend to try to make that claim.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

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#1373 May 6, 2013
talk about a straw man...

“Don't trust the internet!”

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#1374 May 6, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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The parties [Board and Ms. Hale] immediately called a meeting, after which the termination of Ms. Hale was officially approved. In other words, Ms. Hale was given an opportunity to present her case and to correct her breach of contract. Obviously, she chose to remain in breach of contract, resulting in the official confirmation of termination.
Ah, you are assuming that is what happened.

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#1375 May 6, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>You've laid them out on this forum for years and we all know them too well.
Deflect.

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#1376 May 6, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Again, that passage applies only to fellow Christians.
Your years' of Topix posts confirm you hold to an ideology that directly contradicts the Word of God.
You're not a Christian?

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#1377 May 6, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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If you answered the question, I'd show you the relevance. You won't though.
Both adultery and same-sex behaviors are declared sinful in the NT.
Therefore, both behaviors could lead to termination of employment under the COACE contract.

Execution is not demanded for either sin.
However, death remains the penalty for all sin.
Salvation by repentance and faith in Christ's atonement on the Cross is the only remedy, resulting in eternal life with Christ.

All have sinned; all are in need of repentance.

Repentance is a deliberate turning away from sinful behavior --- not declaring your sinful behavior to be a virtue and then demanding that all of society do so as well.

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#1378 May 6, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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Ah, you are assuming that is what happened.
It was after the meeting with Ms. Hale that her termination for breach of contract was officially confirmed.
Therefore, following their meeting, she chose to remain in breach of contract.
There is no other conclusion.

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#1379 May 6, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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You're not a Christian?
Not one of your false variety.

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Planet Earth

#1380 May 6, 2013
-tip- wrote:
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Both adultery and same-sex behaviors are declared sinful in the NT.
Therefore, both behaviors could lead to termination of employment under the COACE contract.
Execution is not demanded for either sin.
However, death remains the penalty for all sin.
Salvation by repentance and faith in Christ's atonement on the Cross is the only remedy, resulting in eternal life with Christ.
All have sinned; all are in need of repentance.
Repentance is a deliberate turning away from sinful behavior --- not declaring your sinful behavior to be a virtue and then demanding that all of society do so as well.
An awfully long winded way to not answer the question.

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#1381 May 6, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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An awfully long winded way to not answer the question.
What do you not understand about execution not being prescribed as a penalty for adultery in the Christian church?
Perhaps you were thinking of the Quran....

John 8:3-11

The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst they said to him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?" This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her." And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground. But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. Jesus stood up and said to her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more."

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Note that Jesus did not say to the woman, "Go, and return to your adulterous lifestyle." In that moment, she realized her salvation was from Jesus Christ; her life was transformed from a life of sin to a life of following after righteousness.

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