Gay teacher fired by Catholic school claims discrimination

Apr 23, 2013 Full story: World Magazine 1,746

Carla Hale, 59, a lesbian P.E. teacher, has filed a grievance against the diocese of the Ohio Catholic school where she worked for 19 years until administrators fired her for "violating moral law." According to The Columbus Dispatch , Hale's sexual orientation became public when an obituary for her late mother published Hale's name along with the ... (more)

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Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#1123 May 3, 2013
OkieDarren wrote:
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LIAR!! She DID NOT violate her contract. And you should watch that "daring" crap, this is a lawsuit WAITING to happen, and the school and the bigots running it will LOSE. Discrimination is ILLEGAL.
She DID NOT violate her contract AT ALL.
Liar. The contract states:
20.3
The following provisions apply to all contracts:

C.
A contract may be terminated at any time for gross inefficiency or
immorality, for serious unethical conduct, or for willful and/or persistent violations of reasonable regulations of the school or the Diocesan Office of Catholic Schools. The teacher has the right to appeal such termination of contract through the grievance procedure. A written statement of these regulations must be available and readily accessible to teachers at the
employing school.
http://www.coace.com/AGREEMENT%202011-2014.pd...

Guess what, Sparky? I'm upping my weekly offertory envelope check by 50% until this thing is settled and you people get out of our business. And I'm not the only one.

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Palm Springs, California

#1124 May 3, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>She can suck an egg. She violated her contract. I dare her to sue.
Lovely Christian thoughts. Where, exactly, in the bible does it tell us to "suck an egg" when referring to those we do not like?

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Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#1125 May 3, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Lovely Christian thoughts. Where, exactly, in the bible does it tell us to "suck an egg" when referring to those we do not like?
Where does it tell you to hate on the Church and its faithful, Bruce?

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Since: Feb 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#1126 May 3, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Liar. The contract states:
20.3
The following provisions apply to all contracts:
C.
A contract may be terminated at any time for gross inefficiency or
immorality, for serious unethical conduct, or for willful and/or persistent violations of reasonable regulations of the school or the Diocesan Office of Catholic Schools. The teacher has the right to appeal such termination of contract through the grievance procedure. A written statement of these regulations must be available and readily accessible to teachers at the
employing school.
http://www.coace.com/AGREEMENT%202011-2014.pd...
Guess what, Sparky? I'm upping my weekly offertory envelope check by 50% until this thing is settled and you people get out of our business. And I'm not the only one.
And you just PROVED you are the liar. NOTHING she did violated this contract. NOTHING. Your blind stupid support of Jim Crow doesn't change FACTS, and the fact is this was an illegal and immoral firing.

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Since: Feb 08

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#1128 May 3, 2013
Learn the way of truth wrote:
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That is absolutely true.
Lesbianism, homosexuality and pedophilia are wrong and a sign of the end of days. Read the Word of God and save yourself from this sinful and depraved generation.
Homosexuality is not remotely comparable or connected to pedophilia. Being gay is NOT wrong, and this "end of days" bunkum is entirely manmade. You are NOT reading the "word of God," you're reading the writing of PEOPLE and IGNORING God's law, which is to love your neighbor. Your hate and bigotry is sinful and depraved. There are no more gay people in this generation than at any time in history. We're just more educated and tolerant...as Christ would want us to be.

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#1129 May 3, 2013
OkieDarren wrote:
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And you just PROVED you are the liar. NOTHING she did violated this contract. NOTHING. Your blind stupid support of Jim Crow doesn't change FACTS, and the fact is this was an illegal and immoral firing.
What part of the word, "immorality" in the contract eludes you, Bruce?
BTW, I dare you to go to the black community and tell them this situation is an example of Jim Crow.

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Since: Apr 13

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#1130 May 3, 2013
OkieDarren wrote:
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Bigotry isn't Christian. You are not the church or the faithful, just the hateful and bigoted.
Uh, yeah Bruce, I am the Church and the faithful. Your childish leftism and feminine hissy fits can change the foundations of the faith.

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#1131 May 3, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Liar. The contract states:
20.3
The following provisions apply to all contracts:
C.
A contract may be terminated at any time for gross inefficiency or
immorality, for serious unethical conduct, or for willful and/or persistent violations of reasonable regulations of the school or the Diocesan Office of Catholic Schools. The teacher has the right to appeal such termination of contract through the grievance procedure. A written statement of these regulations must be available and readily accessible to teachers at the7
employing school.
http://www.coace.com/AGREEMENT%202011-2014.pd...
Guess what, Sparky? I'm upping my weekly offertory envelope check by 50% until this thing is settled and you people get out of our business. And I'm not the only one.
I'm sure they will be happy to have that extra dollar every week.

But I do believe thar Ms Hale's attorney is right. That language is both broad and vague. And it is non-specific with regard to any expectation of livivg a Catholic lifestyle. I dont guarantee a ruling in her favor. But neithef doI see it going clearly agaknst her either.

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Hilliard, OH

#1132 May 3, 2013
FKA Reader wrote:
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I'm sure they will be happy to have that extra dollar every week.
But I do believe thar Ms Hale's attorney is right. That language is both broad and vague. And it is non-specific with regard to any expectation of livivg a Catholic lifestyle. I dont guarantee a ruling in her favor. But neithef doI see it going clearly agaknst her either.
She's not going to win, even if it goes all the way to the US Supreme Court.
That "extra dollar" of mine is being matched by an awful lot of people in this diocese, Reader. Your girl's supporters are all mouth and immaturity...not rationality or money.

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Read and learn the Word

New Albany, OH

#1133 May 3, 2013
Read and learn the Word of God about lesbianism, Romans 1:26 "For this cause God gave them up to vile affections, for even their women did change the natural use for that which is against nature."
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#1134 May 3, 2013
OkieDarren wrote:
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And you just PROVED you are the liar. NOTHING she did violated this contract. NOTHING. Your blind stupid support of Jim Crow doesn't change FACTS, and the fact is this was an illegal and immoral firing.
Relax Elvis.

Uve

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#1136 May 3, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Too wordy.
Next time ask mommy to read it to you.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#1137 May 3, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Where does it tell you to hate on the Church and its faithful, Bruce?
You've got me wrong, bright eyes, to hate something you have to actually care about it,or have strong feelings about it. The opposite of love is NOT hate, but indifference.

I have no real opinion about church, except NOT wanting to have anything to do with it, which is my CONSTITUTIONAL right as an American, unless you have heard of some new theology government take over here. I didn't read the paper today..did that happen already?

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#1138 May 3, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>She's not going to win, even if it goes all the way to the US Supreme Court.
That "extra dollar" of mine is being matched by an awful lot of people in this diocese, Reader. Your girl's supporters are all mouth and immaturity...not rationality or money.
WHAT a supreme waste of MONEY. They sure saw YOU coming.

I'm sure your tithing will buy another frilly robe for your priest to flounce around in, showing his pretty lacy slip underneath. Does ONLY the pope get to wear red shoes, or do all the clergy get to be all SASSY in red Jimmy Choo's or Prada?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#1139 May 3, 2013
Uve wrote:
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Next time ask mommy to read it to you.
I did but Mommy said it was too wordy. And it was, Fruitloop. You just say it wasn't because you're mad at me.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#1140 May 3, 2013
Uve wrote:
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LOL Right...I'm only bigoted against condescending morons..Expect no mercy.
Too funny!

So how'd you like my Old Swiftboater Bill schtick before I was banished?

You even PM'ed me all sweet and nice! FUN Stuff!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#1141 May 3, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>WHAT a supreme waste of MONEY. They sure saw YOU coming.
I'm sure your tithing will buy another frilly robe for your priest to flounce around in, showing his pretty lacy slip underneath. Does ONLY the pope get to wear red shoes, or do all the clergy get to be all SASSY in red Jimmy Choo's or Prada?
So which Pope is the flashier dresser? I say the Argentine-Italian! He has it all over the German.

“Don't trust the internet!”

Since: Jan 12

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#1142 May 3, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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So which Pope is the flashier dresser? I say the Argentine-Italian! He has it all over the German.
You kidding?

Francis is all about austerity.
Skid

Medina, OH

#1143 May 3, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>You've got me wrong, bright eyes, to hate something you have to actually care about it,or have strong feelings about it. The opposite of love is NOT hate, but indifference.
I have no real opinion about church, except NOT wanting to have anything to do with it, which is my CONSTITUTIONAL right as an American, unless you have heard of some new theology government take over here. I didn't read the paper today..did that happen already?
If you have no opinions, why are you posting here?
Concerned parent

Westerville, OH

#1145 May 4, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>I am posting for some poor woman lost her job due to her intolerant bosses. If a non church had done that also,fat chance,then I would be concerned with their behavior also.
Why aren't you registered, by the way? AFRAID?
I love how everyone disregards The Catholic Church's rights in this matter. This teacher lied to the church upon hiring and knew she was gay but yet agreed to abide by their moral standards. Like everyone else, she's only mad cause she got caught. Get over it. Your employer has rights too! And for all the former students coming out in support saying she was a great teacher..... How many great " gym" teachers do you know? What a joke!

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