Gay teacher fired by Catholic school claims discrimination

Apr 23, 2013 Full story: World Magazine 1,746

Carla Hale, 59, a lesbian P.E. teacher, has filed a grievance against the diocese of the Ohio Catholic school where she worked for 19 years until administrators fired her for "violating moral law." According to The Columbus Dispatch , Hale's sexual orientation became public when an obituary for her late mother published Hale's name along with the ... (more)

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Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#87 Apr 24, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>There's no hate involved on my part, but naturally you people call following the rules, "hate."
You portray nothing but hate.

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#88 Apr 24, 2013
snyper wrote:
59yo and 19yrs of employment.
Does anyone else smell pension-dodging?
Wow I completely missed that angle! Brilliant point.

And female too. Remember the RCC is also cracking down on American Nuns. It's not too far fetched to think they'd expand it to any female that poses a potential problem.

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#89 Apr 24, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
If more come crawling in on the Hale threads, we'll know an activist sent out an SOS for the Rainbow Brigade.
As an Editor here on Topix, allow me to help educate you since your home schooling might have missed this.

Topix cross posts stories in multiple forums. As such I am reading this on the Gay and Lesbian thread, whereas you may be reading it on the Catholic thread, the Ohio thread, the Columbus thread, etc.

It would be a great day when folks like you start to understand you don't OWN many of the things you think you do, such as terms like "marriage", or "civil rights" and concepts like "morality", "equality" and "righteousness".

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#90 Apr 24, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Wow I completely missed that angle! Brilliant point.
And female too. Remember the RCC is also cracking down on American Nuns. It's not too far fetched to think they'd expand it to any female that poses a potential problem.
When American nuns commit voter fraud in presidential elections and support abortion, they need to be cracked down upon. Are you really that stupid?

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#91 Apr 24, 2013
Pot Pourri wrote:
<quoted text>
Sodomy is not sex.
Sex is an act of reproduction.
So-called oral sex and anal sex are oxymorons.
The only thing a queer gives birth to via sodomy is multi-drug resistant disease.
That ain't sweet.
I remember Bill Clinton too!

LMAO!

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#92 Apr 24, 2013
Pot Pourri wrote:
<quoted text>
Closet queers are a bitch, literally.
In fact, many neoconservative warmongers are closet queers.
It's not a coincidence that most of the sodomy perpetrated by closeted priests occurred in the northeast US states. The northeast US state populace is more tolerant of typical LGBTQ behaviors than other regions. Tolerance of typical LGBTQ behaviors is a license for disaster.
wow.

just... wow....

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#93 Apr 24, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>As an Editor here on Topix, allow me to help educate you since your home schooling might have missed this.
Topix cross posts stories in multiple forums. As such I am reading this on the Gay and Lesbian thread, whereas you may be reading it on the Catholic thread, the Ohio thread, the Columbus thread, etc.
It would be a great day when folks like you start to understand you don't OWN many of the things you think you do, such as terms like "marriage", or "civil rights" and concepts like "morality", "equality" and "righteousness".
"Marriage" will NEVER change.
We gave you civil unions and you stomp your feet like the children you are and think you can cry until you get your way.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#94 Apr 24, 2013
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
You portray nothing but hate.
Che, you've never known love in your life. It shows...painfully.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#95 Apr 24, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>As an Editor here on Topix, allow me to help educate you since your home schooling might have missed this.
Topix cross posts stories in multiple forums. As such I am reading this on the Gay and Lesbian thread, whereas you may be reading it on the Catholic thread, the Ohio thread, the Columbus thread, etc.
It would be a great day when folks like you start to understand you don't OWN many of the things you think you do, such as terms like "marriage", or "civil rights" and concepts like "morality", "equality" and "righteousness".
Figures you'd be a Topix editor...

With regard to "marriage," "morality," "equality," and "righteousness" -- all are eternal truths from time immemorial, not owned by man, but established by God.

With regard to "civil rights," homosexuals enjoy each and every civil right available to every U.S. citizen. In fact, you enjoy special rights and remedies [i.e., "hate crimes laws," etc.] on account of the fact that engage in aberrant sexual behaviors.

Imagine that.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#96 Apr 24, 2013
edit:...that YOU engage in aberrant sexual behaviors.

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#97 Apr 24, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>What do you think the parish councils do? They see the money being spent on their parishes and sign off on it.
Funny but I thought the Diocese of San Diego and the insurance companies paid for all the sex abuse settlements and the parish councils never had any say in it.

If you can prove me wrong with links I'd like to see it.

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#98 Apr 24, 2013
Well it's been fun.

Interesting watching a few posters defend an organization that acts on one person's anonymous complaint.

Makes the Spanish Inquisition almost warm and fuzzy.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#99 Apr 24, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Funny but I thought the Diocese of San Diego and the insurance companies paid for all the sex abuse settlements and the parish councils never had any say in it.
If you can prove me wrong with links I'd like to see it.
You missed the entire point. We were talking about the first and second collections at Mass and what the money from each generally went to.
Try again.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#100 Apr 24, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>Che, you've never known love in your life. It shows...painfully.
Like I said, nothing but hate.

Since: Apr 13

Hilliard, OH

#101 Apr 24, 2013
DNF wrote:
Well it's been fun.
Interesting watching a few posters defend an organization that acts on one person's anonymous complaint.
Makes the Spanish Inquisition almost warm and fuzzy.
Here's a hint for a happier life in your case: Stay away from our Church. You win, we win.

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#102 Apr 24, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Care to reconcile any of what you have stated with the U.S. Constitution?
YUP! And I'm glad you asked BTW. Let's start with Article 6 The legal Status of the Constitution shall we?(We'll get back to Article 4 after)

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/artic...

"This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

If you are a U.S. Citizen it's the U.S. Constitution that matters not your religion.

Now for Article 4:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/artic...

"Section 1.

Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.

Section 2.

The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states."

Constitutional Rights of the Citizens trump the whole States Rights BS and the "religious rights defense' for violating civil law.

Now lets look at Amendment 9 and 10. One speaks of rights reserved for the States but BOTH say all rights not listed in the Constitution are STILL retained by the people. That would include protection from being fired by a religious group as well as marriage rights, benefits, privileges and responsibilities.

I hope I don't have to also educate you on the equal protection clause in the 14th Amendment and the religious freedom clause found in the 1st Amendment.(But I've been proven wrong before).

Now your turn. Care to reconcile your posts with the following quote:

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#103 Apr 24, 2013
-Clayton Bigsby wrote:
<quoted text>The law is unconstitutional for not including a religious exemption. As I said before, I DARE the city to prosecute. Watching Coleman and his slimy minions go down in flames would be worth every penny.
Where in the U.S. or Ohio Constitution does it guarantee Churches special rights?

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#104 Apr 24, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>YUP! And I'm glad you asked BTW. Let's start with Article 6 The legal Status of the Constitution shall we?(We'll get back to Article 4 after)
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/artic...
"This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
If you are a U.S. Citizen it's the U.S. Constitution that matters not your religion.
Now for Article 4:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/artic...
"Section 1.
Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.
Section 2.
The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states."
Constitutional Rights of the Citizens trump the whole States Rights BS and the "religious rights defense' for violating civil law.
Now lets look at Amendment 9 and 10. One speaks of rights reserved for the States but BOTH say all rights not listed in the Constitution are STILL retained by the people. That would include protection from being fired by a religious group as well as marriage rights, benefits, privileges and responsibilities.
I hope I don't have to also educate you on the equal protection clause in the 14th Amendment and the religious freedom clause found in the 1st Amendment.(But I've been proven wrong before).
Now your turn. Care to reconcile your posts with the following quote:
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"
Is your name Thomas Tootle, attorney for Carla Hale?
His comments won last week's Topix "Moron of the Week" award.
If you're not him, you're giving him a run for his money.
Like I said, glad you're on Hale's side.

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#105 Apr 24, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Where in the U.S. or Ohio Constitution does it guarantee Churches special rights?
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt
DING! DING! DING!
You're this week's winner!
Congratulations!

DNF

“Religious Freedom to Marry”

Since: Apr 07

Newark OH / Baltimore MD

#106 Apr 24, 2013
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
Ms. Hale has no intention of repenting.
I never mentioned repenting.

My point of FORGIVENESS was of course lost on you.

BTW since Christ died for all our sins she has nothing to repent. None of us do.

You have my sympathy for you being a believer in Saulist heresy.

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